Talk:James Holmes (mass murderer)

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Exclamation point and a bad sentence

Why is the sentence at the end of the page of prosecutors seeking death penalty ended with an exclamation point? Doesn't seem neutral or professional. Also there is this sentence in the last section " It's information that up until then had not been released." If you are reading this sentence is choppy and really breaks the flow of reading. It should be re written or phrased into another whole sentence already there somehow. Hope I'm doing this right since it's protected so I can't edit myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.146.68 (talk) 16:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

well I don't see much of an issues with that exclamation mark.. and yes you're right I'm not a professional but the sentence you mentioned is not of my origin... however it's fixed already! --Fox2k11 (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for Victims of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado Killings

If Mr. Holmes is notable as a suspected perpetrator of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado massacre, then why not make articles for the victims of the 2012 Aurora, Colorado massacre? It would seem they, too, would serve as notable as they were killed in this obviously noteworthy event.174.102.42.226 (talk) 06:36, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

No, you should read WP:VICTIM. Perpetrators attract notability through their deeds. Victims only attract notability if they in turn have done something notable, like Victoria Leigh Soto. WWGB (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I did look at it. It says

  "Where there are no appropriate existing articles, the criminal or victim in question should be the subject    
   of a Wikipedia article only if one of the following applies:
   The victim... consistent with WP:BLP1E had a large role within a well-documented historic event."

Their being murdered was a large role in the 2012 Aurora shooting, which considering it has a Wikipedia article dedicated to it, would imply Wikipedia considers it to be a well-documented historic event.--174.102.42.226 (talk) 22:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I once Created an Article-stub for one of the victims of the aurora shooting in the end the census of the deletion discussion was delete per WP:BLP1E so save yourself the time if you don't have enough resources of an Victim that would make him or her enough notable to have a standalone article like WWGB already mentioned f.e Victoria Leigh Soto Fox2k11 (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

What about a photo?

Preferably one with his bright red hair where he's all pretty like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.39.46.34 (talk) 11:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

That sounded flippant but I do think there should be a photo, since his image in the media was iconic in an infamous kind of way.

Elliot Ridgwell

Honors Societies

I deleted the sentence listing him as a member of Phi Beta Kappa and Golden Key because the linked article listed a single unnamed source as stating he was a member. The assertion is thus unverifiable and, in light of the quality of our fast-paced news source, dubious. An accurate rendering of this information, based on the single source, would read, "A claimed acquaintance told an MSN reporter that Mr. Holmes was a member of X and Y", which would be immediately deleted. IF someone quoted a school newspaper listing inductees (which schools tend to run) that would be another matter altogether. For now, someone has added the honor societies back based on anonymous hearsay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.241.18.249 (talk) 22:55, 16 November 2013 (UTC)