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'pro-Russia' should be removed

There is nothing in footnote [15] (i read the entire article) that claims that the eastern part of ukraine is "pro-Russia" as opposed to 'Russian speaking.' Either the highly misleading reference to 'pro russia' should be removed or another, credible source found. There is a big difference between 'pro-the-interests-of-Russian-speakers-in-eastern-ukraine' and 'pro-putin's russia politically' and this article makes a smear of the differences. Should be fixed immediately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.245.96 (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

No hiding of prison background, please

Ladies and gentlemen, the "Criminal convictions" section should always remain in the top of the article, beyond any doubt. This is most certainly dictated by both the chrono-logic of a bio article and the need to reflect the sensational hyper-important fact of a Europe state leader with 2 prison terms. I suggest that we stop the practice of lubricationless anal-raping the common sense by bowing to weak pressure of Yanukovych's PR hente.

Precisely the reason why I recently tagged the article with "POV". Happy edits, Ukrained2012 (talk) 03:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

получается, "я правилам всем вашим вращенье придавал, а осью был мой детородный орган", а мы тут с вами все же пытаемся создать более-менее цельную биографию. можно в общей инфориации написать про отсидку, можно вставить пару фоток "проффессора - на зону" (пол майдана в плакатах), но давайте попытаемся соблюдать хронологию! С верху - отсидка и губернаторства, потом премьерства, потом уже президенство. А то почему-то сначала идет евромайдан, а потом инавгурация. Нам порядок нужен, организованность... Статью про гитлера вам для сравнения. Сначала ништяки, а потом только пуля в висок! (уруру, простите что на русском), --Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Google translation of the above text is as follows, in case anyone is interested. Doesn't make much sense, so is probably idiomatic

it turns out, " I'm all your rotation rules attached and the axis was my genital organ ," and we're with you all the same trying to create a more or less coherent biography. You can write in the general informations about his release , you can insert a couple of pictures " proffessora - a zone of" (sex Maidan in posters ), but let's try to respect the chronology ! From the top - and stints governorship then prime minister , then already presidency . And that reason is evromaydan first , and then inauguration . We need order , organization ... Article about Hitler you to compare. Nishtyaki first , and only then a bullet in the head ! ( ururu forgive that in Russian),

174.65.10.224 (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism

I removed the whole "DIRTY DICTATOR AND MURDERER" and "Died Jan. 24th 2014" from the article. I didn't sign in because I barely use my Wikipedia account anyway, but perhaps this article should become semi-protected? 75.89.204.34 (talk) 03:55, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I've just requested an increase in the protection level of this article at WP:RFPP. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:29, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism is not the problem with this article. More like irrelevance

Unless I'm missing something, this article suffers mainly from a lack of interest and edit activity. Acts of vandalism are the least of its problems. It appears to be an insipid puff piece on an eastern European dictator, full of unimportant (albeit often source-cited) info. The last couple months have made the article even more irrelevant if that's possible. It's definitely not a hopeful indication of WP's accuracy, or timeliness. I added the source-cited contribution (second paragraph of Consolidation of family power) about VY basically taking over the entire industry of his country for his own personal profit, which amounted IMO to adding a few relevant drops of information to an okean of largely nonsense and irrelevance. Maybe, HOPEFULLY IMO, this character will be gone from power soon, and s.o. can write an obituary to his political career to replace this mess.

Vive l'Ukraine!

What are we really protecting here? I have the sick feeling that if Hitler and Stalin were alive in the WP era, their WP articles might well read something like VY's! It seems WP's BLP policy is less than optimal. Paavo273 (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

the way to combat this is (being a 'puff piece') is to properly assess WP:WEIGHT --Львівське (говорити) 05:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Dictator

He is a dictator

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew Womble (talk • contribs)  

Revised order of info in article

I see a lot of BLPs (and BDPs) where what is most important or of most potential interest to readers about the person gets first attention. For English WP readers worldwide, IMO his early life, fine details of election results, etc. are not important at all. There's a war going on in his country. Euromaidan is what he will always be known for even if he manages to survive his term (which is looking to some as s/w doubtful). QUERY: Is there a clearly stated policy that forward chronology or some other format must be followed in all BLPs? (In any case, it is NOT followed in A LOT of articles.) If there is such a policy, please state it. Absent any policy, IMO it serves the interests of readers of this article to put current, important stuff first. In any case, why should readers have to read or scan through trivialities to get to what is important? Is there any disagreement that Euromaidan is the most signficant political event in VY's career and in Ukraine's history since the break up of the USSR? Paavo273 (talk) 07:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Obama's article as a template is not authoritative, is it? Absent some specific WP rule or guideline rel ordering of article info, IMO we should arrange in order of importance. Surely at this point, VY's inauguration and election campaign are not germane. I propose as a compromise, if a chronological structure is by consensus called for, that it be a REVERSE chronology, which would place more relevant items ahead of the completely trivial. One editor has proposed FORWARD chronology. Another editor has organized topically. Absent a WP directive, we should work together to come up with a mutually satisfactory arrangement that benefits the article and its readers. Paavo273 (talk) 17:19, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Relative prominence of tags

Absent some specific WP policy that states multiple tags must be bulleted in a single block, IMO it's better to show with greater prominence in individual space on a seriously deficient article such as this. I can give MANY examples, if anyone wants, of articles that are tagged with multiple tags--in the more PROMINENT format. Paavo273 (talk) 17:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

In English, please. -- По Англиский, пожалуиста. -- Auf Englisch, bitte.

@ User:Andrew J.Kurbiko: Thank you for your (IMO) excellent contributions to this article. Could you please say what you mean and to whom you are referring in the last sentence of your Russian response above, Сначала ништяки, а потом только пуля в висок!

The whole comment from above: "получается, "я правилам всем вашим вращенье придавал, а осью был мой детородный орган", а мы тут с вами все же пытаемся создать более-менее цельную биографию. можно в общей инфориации написать про отсидку, можно вставить пару фоток "проффессора - на зону" (пол майдана в плакатах), но давайте попытаемся соблюдать хронологию! С верху - отсидка и губернаторства, потом премьерства, потом уже президенство. А то почему-то сначала идет евромайдан, а потом инавгурация. Нам порядок нужен, организованность... Статью про гитлера вам для сравнения. Сначала ништяки, а потом только пуля в висок! (уруру, простите что на русском)"

My Russian is so bad, I can't really get it all even with the computer translation. This is what came up on google translate:

"it turns out, " I'm all your rotation rules attached and the axis was my genital organ ," and we're with you all the same trying to create a more or less coherent biography. You can write in the general informations about his release , you can insert a couple of pictures " proffessora - a zone of" (sex Maidan in posters ), but let's try to respect the chronology ! From the top - and stints governorship then prime minister , then already presidency . And that reason is evromaydan first , and then inauguration . We need order , organization ... Article about Hitler you to compare. Nishtyaki first , and only then a bullet in the head ! ( ururu forgive that in Russian )," Paavo273 (talk) 20:25, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2014

http://ocdn.eu/images/pulscms/YjY7MDMsMmU0LDAsMSwx/452fb42465a7dd87e793e3793b193e7c.jpg

2A01:1161:1:2:9D5A:7029:C3C7:5D79 (talk) 11:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change (link is to an altered photo of Yanukovych).
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please alsoYanukovych cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)