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I feel like it should be changed how come no other episode lists on Wikipedia go by production code. [[User:Koala15|Koala15]] ([[User talk:Koala15|talk]]) 04:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC) |
I feel like it should be changed how come no other episode lists on Wikipedia go by production code. [[User:Koala15|Koala15]] ([[User talk:Koala15|talk]]) 04:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:Some do, some don't, depending on the editors. This one will stay as it is, however. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 04:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC) |
:Some do, some don't, depending on the editors. This one will stay as it is, however. [[User:United States Man|United States Man]] ([[User talk:United States Man|talk]]) 04:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Honestly, I don't care if it is one way or the other, but there should be some consistency. Over on the American Dad talk page there has been a very cogent discussion on this topic because their production runs do not mesh with the airings or DVD releases. I believe they eventually decided that the television air date has to be canon for a "season" by definition. A DVD release is not a television season. Using this logic, the article should either remove references to "season" (change it to DVD release) or use the actual television season numbering. I will note in passing that any way it is decided there will always be people unhappy that their preferred order is not used. As I said, in this case, I would prefer for there to be consistency across articles. Cheers [[Special:Contributions/174.65.10.224|174.65.10.224]] ([[User talk:174.65.10.224|talk]]) 18:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC) |
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Why doesn't the list of episodes go in order of original airdate? It goes in some odd order. Koala15 (talk) 04:16, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- It goes in the order of "production date", which is the order they are made in. That is how an official episode count works. United States Man (talk) 04:18, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I feel like it should be changed how come no other episode lists on Wikipedia go by production code. Koala15 (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
- Some do, some don't, depending on the editors. This one will stay as it is, however. United States Man (talk) 04:30, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't care if it is one way or the other, but there should be some consistency. Over on the American Dad talk page there has been a very cogent discussion on this topic because their production runs do not mesh with the airings or DVD releases. I believe they eventually decided that the television air date has to be canon for a "season" by definition. A DVD release is not a television season. Using this logic, the article should either remove references to "season" (change it to DVD release) or use the actual television season numbering. I will note in passing that any way it is decided there will always be people unhappy that their preferred order is not used. As I said, in this case, I would prefer for there to be consistency across articles. Cheers 174.65.10.224 (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
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Is there anyone in favor moving the episode list in order of air dates? Koala15 (talk) 04:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
- I just explained this to you in the above section. United States Man (talk) 04:50, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Yeah well i would like to see some other opinions. That's all. Koala15 (talk) 04:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
- There is no good reason to list the episodes in order of airdate. The order that the producers use for the DVD sets can be considered canon. DJ1AM (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Episodes vs Individual episodes vs segments vs ?
The edit volley that was triggered by this edit and continuing with [1], [2], [3], [4], etc., should be resolved here on the talk page, since we're starting to get a little pissy in the edit summaries. I don't particularly care what we arrive at, as long as the result is not confusing. The original version, "356 individual episodes" is redundant, because we wouldn't otherwise be talking about 356 duplicate episodes. This was replaced with "187 episode blocks (totaling 356 individual episodes)", which uses the word "episode" twice to describe two different things, and the redundant "individual" was restored. My version, "187 episodes (totaling 356 eleven minute segments)" was kaiboshed because as United States Man pointed out, not all segments were 11 minutes. But that was changed to "187 episodes (totaling 356 individual segments)" which again includes the redundant word "individual", so it's not materially better than the original. So, what's the best way to express this? 187 episodes containing 356 stories? Cartoons? Segments? Should we cut the entire sentence, as it is ephemeral (i.e. relevant only for a fleeting moment until the next episode airs)? Two editors so far have a problem with the word "individual", so that, technically is the consensus thus far. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion i think we should just put 187 episodes and that's it. Koala15 (talk) 05:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
- Assuming the number is accurate, that makes sense to me. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
What Season?
I just found out that there will be a new spongebob special. I'm just wondering if it will be in season 9 or 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NolanCRules (talk • contribs) 22:18, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Episode table style
I believe the episode table that I edited and published on February 5, 2014 should used, instead of current table used, that is connected to SpongeBob SquarePants (season 1), SpongeBob SquarePants (season 2), etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Daniel Zapata (talk • contribs) 22:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- We don't achieve consensus by voting, we achieve consensus through discussion. Your vote is noted, but you need to argue why your version is preferable over the current version. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- agreed, I see no reason why the current version is not preferable. Frietjes (talk) 23:02, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Season 6 Production Code Number Problem
This isn't right. Can someone please put back Season 6 in the right production code number? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 17:36, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, it's unclear what you are asking. S6 doesn't list any production codes, and even if it did, how would we verify they are correct? Production codes are typically used internally by production companies, i.e. Nickelodeon, and are difficult to source. A common mistake I see, is that people assume that a TV episode airing in the Season 1 episode 14 slot of a series always means "Production code 114", when it could be ANY string of numbers or letters, and could have been produced first, but shown much later. So if you have a different take on this, please explain, and preferably source. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Did you look at SpongeBob Episodes on SpongeBob Wiki? They show the production code numbers there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I assume you're talking about some Wikia site? Wikia is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it and it's typically full of factual errors and speculation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- But why go with the DVD order? Why not put it back the way it was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 21:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- What's wrong with the DVD order? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Nothing, but the production code number is more better than the DVD order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, firstly, it appears that you're complaining about the current order without explaining why the order you are proposing is "better". I asked you to tell me what's wrong with the current order, and you said "nothing" and then said that the other order is better. If there's nothing wrong, then there's nothing better. Using potentially phony production codes are in no way "better". That might be the editorial standard at Wikia, but not here. If you think the episodes should be sorted by airdate, that's easily remedied by making the table sortable. And I still don't understand what confusion the current order is presenting for you. If you're trying to find out details about "The Slumber Party", you can still find out when it aired. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- What I meant was, I liked it just the way it was before it was changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 05:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, firstly, it appears that you're complaining about the current order without explaining why the order you are proposing is "better". I asked you to tell me what's wrong with the current order, and you said "nothing" and then said that the other order is better. If there's nothing wrong, then there's nothing better. Using potentially phony production codes are in no way "better". That might be the editorial standard at Wikia, but not here. If you think the episodes should be sorted by airdate, that's easily remedied by making the table sortable. And I still don't understand what confusion the current order is presenting for you. If you're trying to find out details about "The Slumber Party", you can still find out when it aired. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Nothing, but the production code number is more better than the DVD order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- What's wrong with the DVD order? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- But why go with the DVD order? Why not put it back the way it was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 21:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- I assume you're talking about some Wikia site? Wikia is not a reliable source. Anyone can edit it and it's typically full of factual errors and speculation. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Did you look at SpongeBob Episodes on SpongeBob Wiki? They show the production code numbers there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.41.145 (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2014
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The episode "It Came from Goo Lagoon (A.K.A SpongeBob vs The Goo)" is the start of season ten and it's not listed here.
Could you please put it on the list? 2602:306:CF60:C300:28CE:8B45:2929:EBE1 (talk) 23:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- Do you have a reliable source that supports this request? Goo Lagoon is listed in S9. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:39, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 02:12, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
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