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:Hi, {{u|Orczar}}. The first thing I noticed, is that the [[wp:lede]] does not summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight. Please read what the guideline says about the lead section of a Wikipedia article in [[WP:MOSINTRO]]. Quote: ''"The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can <u>stand on its own</u> as a concise version of the article."'' This might require some effort, but it needs to be done. Cheers, [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<font style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font>]] 06:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:Hi, {{u|Orczar}}. The first thing I noticed, is that the [[wp:lede]] does not summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight. Please read what the guideline says about the lead section of a Wikipedia article in [[WP:MOSINTRO]]. Quote: ''"The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can <u>stand on its own</u> as a concise version of the article."'' This might require some effort, but it needs to be done. Cheers, [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<font style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font>]] 06:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
::I just started working on this article because Piotrus suggested it needed to be rewritten. I'm nowhere close to being done with the content, referencing, organizing etc. I'll get to the lede, but I have not produced the material to summarize yet. The article is at a temporary stage. [[User:Orczar|Orczar]] ([[User talk:Orczar|talk]]) 13:18, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
::I just started working on this article because Piotrus suggested it needed to be rewritten. I'm nowhere close to being done with the content, referencing, organizing etc. I'll get to the lede, but I have not produced the material to summarize yet. The article is at a temporary stage. [[User:Orczar|Orczar]] ([[User talk:Orczar|talk]]) 13:18, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I suggest you make it easier on yourself {{u|Orczar}} and borrow from the leads of each major sister article already written. This way, you would be summarising not just one article, but a block of relevant articles listed in [[:Category:History of Poland (1939–45)]]. All of them were written under a single banner of [[History of Poland (1939–45)]]. This includes [[Invasion of Poland]], [[Occupation of Poland (1939–45)]], [[War crimes in occupied Poland during World War II]], [[Territories of Poland annexed by the Soviet Union]], [[The Holocaust in occupied Poland]], [[Rape during the liberation of Poland]] etcetera. Good luck with it, [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<font style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font>]] 14:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


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The intended target of Trawnikis is section "Camp operation", the section where the term is introduced. Are you telling me that the WP:ANCHOR/{{anchor}} syntax is broken? I've been using it for quite some time at different browsers without problems.

Anyway, when I started messing with these redirects, my intention was to split Trawniki men into a separate article, since this is a pretty much independent subject: Trawnikis were trained in TCC, but operated in in many places. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:31, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Staszek Lem. Firstly, I don't like the idea of splitting the "Trawnikis" from the camp, although I don't mind you writing a separate article with a lot more data from reliable third-party sources and than perhaps trimming the camp article ever so slightly. Secondly, the {{anchor}} template does not work in all browsers contrary to what you say, and it certainly does not work in my version of Internet Explorer. Please don't use it. Make redirects to section titles instead. They work always. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 00:45, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok with anchor. However about "ever so slightly" I slightly disagree. Of course, I am not going to remove the whole Trawnikis text. There is WP:SUMMARY guideleine to follow. Still, the section "Known names of Trawnikis serving at death camps" definitely to be moved out completely. I do agree that significant text must be kept, since training of Wachmänner was one of two major functions of the camp. Staszek Lem (talk) 01:00, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Staszek Lem. I agree with you that the "Known names of Trawnikis serving at death camps" would be a perfect supplement to a new article, but the new article would have to say a lot more about the attrocities committed to be justified. The info as it stands is based on only two sources, Browning's book and H.E.A.R.T. webpage. A lot more can be found I'm sure. Poeticbent talk 01:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of Market Square in Wrocław

Hello,

I noticed that you reverted my edit of adding a historic photo of the market square in Wrocław and said that it's because it's nearly identical to the picture in the info box. The picture in the info box is of the square in modern times. The one I added is a featured image of the historical square in 1900, before Wrocław suffered severe bombing and destruction during World War II. There's a high encyclopedic value to showing that despite the destruction that Wrocław suffered during the war, efforts at restoring, rebuilding and preserving the city have brought back historical sites to their original look. I hope you understand why including a historical image adds significantly the article.

Best,

--AutoGyro (talk) 15:54, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS. The main value comes from giving the reader the opportunity of comparing how the square looked 100 years ago versus today. That was my main interest, and the reason why I added the image.

PPS. Also, the article discusses the history of the square, however there were no historical images of the square included in the article, which is another encyclopedic value of the historical image

PPPS. Here's a cute kitten ^_^ Yay for kitties!

DYK for Bronna Góra

Materialscientist (talk) 23:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've been away so I missed the Bronna Gora fuss. The link you left on my talk page no longer works. What was the problem? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I don't see it as being objectionable myself, and the article does use the word "processed". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:11, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit regarding EE/CE at Poland

Hi, I noticed that you reverted my edit at Poland. I want to point out that I was inspired by how they handled things at Switzerland, so perhaps you should let them know that they're breaking the rules too (they probably have no idea just like I didn't know). Since I put a lot of effort into researching, writing and sourcing this, I hope you know that I did not intend to break any rules and was just aiming to improve the state of things at the article for Poland. Much of the content related to this country is poorly written and without sources (once even when it was sourced, I've seen someone alter a quote to change its meaning), much of it seems to have a political agenda or aims to promote Poland as if it was the centre of the world. This makes it seem like propaganda or a tourist information brochure - sometimes both at the same time. In this case, it's just an example of pushing a single point of view regarding a controversial topic (Poland being in Eastern or Central Europe). As such, I wanted to show more than just that point of view (the "Eastern" view is actually severely underrepresented on Wikipedia). I would appreciate it if you could help me change the article for Poland to reflect this in a way that doesn't break the rules. I've tried much simpler techniques to get this done several months ago, but whenever and whatever I tried, someone always kept reverting my edits (usually without an explanation) even when consensus was reached at the talk page. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 23:06, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've found a better way of doing this without self-referencing. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 13:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the same person who used to be part of the gang that opposed all of my edits has already reverted my change. If you knew the history behind me and Powertranz then, like me, you'd probably think that at this point he is trolling. Can you please help me with this guy? It's impossible to achieve anything and I believe he was never penalized for the edit warring he loves to do. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 17:14, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Samotny Wędrowiec. I think you need to be reminded right now that your account was restored by JamesBWatson from having been blocked indefinitely on the condition that you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia:STICK and act accordinly. I'm afraid you don't appreciate enough the courtesy extended to you. Please refrain from further edit-warring. Poeticbent talk 21:16, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I understand and that's why I took things to the talk page for Poland again (which will probably end in more inaction on the part of admins). But I don't understand why you are referring to what I'm doing as edit-warring whilst you turn the other way when we speak of Powertranz or those other people who have been breaking rules. Why aren't you going to him and warning him? This is injustice at its finest. Is he your friend or do you support his POV pushing? This is beyond ridiculous. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 22:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't like my friendly suggestions you should get going, because I mean well. I have been listening to you. I know what the best course of action is based on experience. You've been reverted by multiple users. It's a fact. Perhaps there is a reason for it. Poeticbent talk 07:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A friendly suggestion and an accusation are two completely different things. If you mean well, then why are you instantly accusing me of things after I've turned to you for help? I am not trying to start an argument - I simply do not understand why users like Powertranz always get their way regardless of how many rules they break. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 14:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Poland peer review

I welcome any constructive input. Orczar (talk) 06:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Orczar. The first thing I noticed, is that the wp:lede does not summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight. Please read what the guideline says about the lead section of a Wikipedia article in WP:MOSINTRO. Quote: "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." This might require some effort, but it needs to be done. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 06:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just started working on this article because Piotrus suggested it needed to be rewritten. I'm nowhere close to being done with the content, referencing, organizing etc. I'll get to the lede, but I have not produced the material to summarize yet. The article is at a temporary stage. Orczar (talk) 13:18, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you make it easier on yourself Orczar and borrow from the leads of each major sister article already written. This way, you would be summarising not just one article, but a block of relevant articles listed in Category:History of Poland (1939–45). All of them were written under a single banner of History of Poland (1939–45). This includes Invasion of Poland, Occupation of Poland (1939–45), War crimes in occupied Poland during World War II, Territories of Poland annexed by the Soviet Union, The Holocaust in occupied Poland, Rape during the liberation of Poland etcetera. Good luck with it, Poeticbent talk 14:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Image added to article you removed

With regards to you removing my edit under the belief that it is not related to the article. May I ask, how is it not?

Although sexual relations with all Poles was not prohibited, it was prohibited for Polish workers and this image shows one of many Poles being charged with the crime of having sexual relations with Germans.--Policja (talk) 20:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]