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==Five more deaths connected with the disaster==
==Five more deaths connected with the disaster==
A [http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/130964/five-killed-in-sewol-search-helicopter-crash/ helicopter crashec today] killing five people, firefighters returning from searching ''Sewol'' for bodies. Is this worthy of inclusion? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 17:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
A [http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/130964/five-killed-in-sewol-search-helicopter-crash/ helicopter crashec today] killing five people, firefighters returning from searching ''Sewol'' for bodies. Is this worthy of inclusion? [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 17:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
: I think no. Their deaths are NOT connected to Sewol disaster or its subsequent rescue effort. Their job '''was complete''' and they were returning home, when the plane crashed. This is a separate incident, with no relation with Sewol disaster. If we add their deaths, then would we add the death of a rescuer who dies in a car accident 20 years later, just because he is a rescuer? [[Special:Contributions/128.189.191.60|128.189.191.60]] ([[User talk:128.189.191.60|talk]]) 00:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Number of fatalities missing

Sporadic cleanup needed

The article as a whole is pretty good, in terms of writing, but I keep noticing some isolated areas that need to be reworded, and this one, in particular, I can't fully decide on how to phrase more coherently:

On 18 April, Kang Min-kyu, 52, the vice principal of the Danwon High School which many of the victims attended, rescued from the ship, was found hanging from a tree in Jindo, near the gymnasium where relatives of the victims were camped.

The sentence feels somewhat incoherent. I don't mean that as a personal attack, because I know the editor(s) meant well. So, anybody have ideas for improving it? KirkCliff2 (talk) 14:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

KirkCliff2, have a look and see if my rewording is any better. Or just be bold and reword it yourself. In general this article needs a lot of updating, expansion and correction. Most material is from late April and a lot of things have happened since. Best Sam Sailor Sing 06:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looks pretty good. Now, let's see what else we can do to tidy this article up. One more thing: In regards to any references for websites written in Korean, perhaps we could link them using the Google-Translated version? This is the English Wikipedia, after all. KirkCliff2 (talk) 19:29, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Capsizing

Reconstruction of route leading to capsizing given graphically does not jive with 45 degree turn. According to the graphic attributed to reconstructed AIS data the turn was more than 180 degrees to the right. If the graphic is accurate regarding distances the ship decelerated rapidly during the turn. Electrical failure is cited as cause of unusual turn to the right. This statement and the graphic is attributed to "Ministry of Oceans and Fisheries". [1] Kellnerp (talk) 18:04, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added {{Update}} to the article. Please go ahead and change any old info you can replace with newer, sourced info. Sam Sailor Sing 11:57, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Length: 157 m

Infobox ship currently has 146.61 m (481 ft 0 in) (as built), 157.02 m (515.16 ft) indicating it should have been made ~10 m (32 ft 10 in) longer. I do not recall reading it was altered horizontaly. Do we have a source for that? I'm going to stick in a {{dubious}}. Sam Sailor Sing 05:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I went a step further and removed it. If we do have sources, it can be added back easily, but I can't find anything to support it. Also, per [1] and the ko wiki, I corrected the length from 146.61 to 145.61. —WOFall (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't looked into this for the Sewol, but differences like this are sometimes due to the difference between LOA (overall length), and LWL (waterline length). And it isn't clear to me which of these should be reported for the "Length" stat. Boardhead (talk) 17:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Have a look at the pic on marinetraffic. I should have looked for sources myself in the first place. As far as I can tell the 146 m reported a couple of places is likely the LOA rounded up in the AIS transponder. I'm confident with the marinetraffic length of 145.61 m that WOFall quoted. Whereas 157.02 dosen't return much. Sam Sailor Sing 18:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Political repercussions

[2]Lihaas (talk) 10:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

News Article "Errors by Coast Guard detailed" July 3, 2014

As I am not watching this Wiki page closely enough to add in this material I wanted to post it here in the hopes that someone can use it/helpful to someone. (link) ₪RicknAsia₪ 01:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Five more deaths connected with the disaster

A helicopter crashec today killing five people, firefighters returning from searching Sewol for bodies. Is this worthy of inclusion? Mjroots (talk) 17:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think no. Their deaths are NOT connected to Sewol disaster or its subsequent rescue effort. Their job was complete and they were returning home, when the plane crashed. This is a separate incident, with no relation with Sewol disaster. If we add their deaths, then would we add the death of a rescuer who dies in a car accident 20 years later, just because he is a rescuer? 128.189.191.60 (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Petrova, Iskra. "Sunken ferry Sewol Update: 152 confirmed dead, 150 remain missing". VesselFinder. Astra Paging Ltd. Retrieved 18 June 2014.