Talk:Disney Princess

Not Actually Princesses

Not for inclusion in the article, but just for information. Of the eleven official Disney princesses, only five actually deserve the title. The ones that are actual princesses are as follows: Snow White, Aurora (Sleeping Beauty), Jasmine, Rapunzel, and Merida. As for the ones that aren't: 1. Cinderella. Yes, she marries a prince, but that story is of French origin, and France has Morganiatic laws, which means that royals are free to marry commoners if they choose, but that does not elevate the commoner to the nobility. So Cinderella is not a princess, despite being married to a Prince. 2. Ariel. Ariel has the same problem as Cinderella, but doubled. She not only abdicated her own position as princess when she permanently exiled herself from Atlantis, she married a Danish prince. Denmark has the same Morganiatic laws as France does. 3. Belle, from Beauty and the Beast, had the misfortune of being a commoner married to a French prince. So no royalty for her. 4. Pocahontas isn't a princess because the Roanoke Indians have no "noble class", and thus no princes or princesses. She's the daughter of a chief, but that does not make her royalty. 5. Mulan is neither born to royalty, nor does she ever marry into it. Sure, her boyfriend is an officer in the army, but even he isn't royalty. 6. Tiana is an American and by US law is not nobility. And while it is true she marries a prince, the prince she marries has been disowned and disinherited, and thus is only legally a prince because his parents are royalty. He has no claim on any throne any longer.

Disney Princess merchandise that has Alice

Is there anyone who has Disney Princess merchandise with Alice in it? I want to see pictures if she ever appeared in Disney Princess merchandise a few times because I never seen her in Disney Princess merchandise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

These are Disney characters. Disney decides what characters to use. We fans can't choose which characters to use. Georgia guy (talk) 18:44, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Getting the Princesses articles up to good status

Not really sure how active this talk page is but I'll bring my case here anyway. So far, the only Disney Princess who has a good article is Ariel just one out of ten that's terrible, and the only other article that's remotely close to getting to good status is the Belle and to be honest it's a bit of mess, it carry's too much WP:WEIGHT in the other media section. That's not a big problem and it's easily fixed but the other articles are a not in such good condition.

I'd suggest looking upon other Disney articles that have reached good article status, articles like Jack Sparrow, Ariel, Phineas Flynn, etc. You get the point using those as templates as a starting point. Those articles focus more on the characters' development and things of that matter, not so much on plot summaries that so many of the princess article, do which will not get them to good status any time soon GroovySandwich^Yum. 09:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree that work needs to be done on the articles, and I'll look for some sources, but Im not really sure what needs to be done to the articles.Caringtype1 (talk) 20:23, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

My main complaint with the articles is that don't seem to know whether they should be covering background information or in story information. Doesn't even state whether the said Princess had married into her status or was already a Princess. I do not want to go and stamp over someone else's work but pages definitely need some standardization on the info they contain. Violetbeau (talk) 19:20, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Ill try and add some extra info about the princesses in those articles in need of work, (Merida, Tiana, ect) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.231.109 (talk) 16:18, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Who is Anna??

The Disney Wiki reveals at http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Disney_Princesses the expectation of a future princess named Anna. Who is Anna?? Does Wikipedia mention Anna anywhere?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Frozen (2013 film), but no official word yet if she will become an official princess. Caringtype1 (talk) 03:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Anna is Elsa's sister. She appears in Disney Frozen, as Queen Elsa's sister. She probably will be a princess at some point. In the article they forgot to add Elsa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.231.109 (talk) 16:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Rapunzel Summary

Does the section on Rapunzel really require such a detailed plot summary for the movie? Ganonsghost (talk) 03:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

You're right. I've trimmed it.--Krystaleen 03:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Leia

Please don't add Princess Leia again until Disney confirms that she's part of the franchise. Freshh (talk) 13:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Summaries

I think the rather lengthy summaries should be shortened to one-liners.--Changedforbetter (talk) 04:55, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Wow...

The entire page is a mess. A lot of people seem to be working on it, but this is only because users are constantly making irrelevant and sometimes disruptive edits, such as the unsourced idea that Princess Leia is now a Disney Princess. This page won't improve until people start taking Wikipedia seriously. The same goes for the other Disney Princess articles.--Changedforbetter (talk) 22:48, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Add Sofia?

Should we add Sofia to the page since she's a princess in Disney's Sofia the First? Keith Okamoto (talk) 01:18, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

She is not yet an official Disney Princess, so no, she should not be added. To see the 10 official Disney Princesses, go to disneyprincess.com.

I see 11 princesses on that page. And I'm not sure that Pocahontas can be a princess, because that is not in native American culture.71.218.225.107 (talk) 05:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Images

Someone added a bunch of photographs from Disneyland, which don't illustrate the sections they're next to, are pointless, and, to me, reduce the encyclopedaic impression of the article. The only one worth keeping is this one with the full cast, if moved to under the Live Events section, since there it's relevant and illustrative, and doesn't force the drawn cast image down awkwardly, as it currently does since they're both at the top. I would re/move them myself, but as I don't often edit, I don't like messing with parts that stand out to the extent images do. Could someone please provide feedback on removing them? 87.114.9.0 (talk) 17:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Princess Vanellope Von Schweetz?

From "Wreck-It Ralph"? She's shown to be a princess near the end of the movie. So, anyone know? I'll grant you that a person in such a costume at WDW wouldn't be able to glitch, but still. - Denimadept (talk) 01:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Like Giselle, Nala, and Leia, she is a princess who happens to work for the Walt Disney Corporation but is not part of the "Disney Princesses" franchise. -- Narsil (talk) 04:02, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Princess Vanellope abdicated and proclaimed a 'republic' at the end of the movie. She isn't a princess anymore.

Abdicated or not, she was/is not part is the franchise.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 17:53, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Angelina

I created an HTML comment saying not to add Moana; it's unlikely that there'll be a lot on Moana soon because it's only 2014, and her movie won't be out until 2018 according to current predictions (as a matter of fact, the fact that it's only 2014 means we cannot be sure what movie will come out in 2018.)

But someone just altered the HTML comment to include Angelina as well. Who is Angelina?? Georgia guy (talk) 14:42, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I did a Google search and it reveals that Angelina is simply an actor who'll be playing Maleficent in the live-action film, not an actual Disney character. Georgia guy (talk) 14:45, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

That is from Maleficent (film) but she is not the princess, Elle Fanning will be Aurora (aka, Sleeping Beauty).--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 14:56, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

But Aurora already is a Disney Princess. Why did User:JaDangerz put Angelina (an actor, not a character) in this HTML comment?? Did they think something about Angelina by mistake?? I wrote a message at their user talk page letting them know about this section of the talk page, but I got no response. Georgia guy (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok ok I'll talk, there's a rumor going around that the female lead named Angelina from the upcoming 2016 Disney film "Giants" is going to join I just wanted to warn people not to add that to the "Future Princesses" section just like Moana. - JaDangerz (talk) 01:42, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying what Angelina means in your HTML comment, JaDangerz. Georgia guy (talk) 14:21, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, thanks! I modified the HTML comment to explain that Angelina is from the unannounced "Giants" project. -- Narsil (talk) 18:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Anna and Elsa still unconfirmed as of Jan 2d

Very glad that there's some source for Anna and Elsa's coronation, besides that one vague Australian trade magazine! We've now got an Orlando newspaper:

Orlando Sentinal: "What to look forward to at Disney World in 2014"

New Disney Princesses - Anna and Elsa, two of the main characters in Disney's 2013 animated film "Frozen," are expected to be inaugurated as official Disney princesses in 2014. Anna, who was voiced by Kristen Bell in the film, will join the Disney Princess franchise as the 12th princess, while her older sister Elsa, the Snow Queen, will become the 13th princess. The official date of the two additions has not been announced.

But I'm still not seeing any confirmation from the Mouse, and that paragraph just says they're "expected" to be inaugurated--still some wiggle room. If Anna and Elsa are both going to be crowned this year, I expect Disney will announce something soon. Until then, I think it's legit to list them as "future princesses" (this has gone beyond just rumor now), but they should still be marked as "unconfirmed", in my opinion. -- Narsil (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Princess Ages

Does Know any each of these princess ages? Pocahontas is 18. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Happypillsjr (talk • contribs) 03:07, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Try looking on the individual articles. This is about a franchise, not the individuals.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 03:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

The "Future Princesses" sub-section is completely empty

What's up with that? If there's nothing to be said, shouldn't the sub-section just be deleted until there is something to say? -- 24.212.139.102 (talk) 04:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Infobox Image

It's positively tiny. Lythronaxargestes (talk) 01:28, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

If you look on the licensing of the image, it is a non-free image and therefor only a smaller low-resolution version can be used. If you can find another version that may be legally used then feel free to upload it to commons.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 02:05, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Disney's new princesses

Anna and Elsa - The two princesses from Disney Frozen should be put in the Addition Princesses category. Anna (voice by Kristen Bell) should be the 12th princess. Elsa (voiced by Idina Menzel) should be the 13th princess (even though she become a queen later on). PLease add them in Wikipedia.

Moana - I've heard rumors about the 2018 new Disney Princess movie, Moana, that Disney announced. I think instead of leaving Future Princess category out blank, you should put Moana in there. Though, I don't have much information about her, but, I do know that she's Polynesian, and she's setting off a journey to help her village.

Gaygreen123 (talk) 01:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Anna and Elsa have not been added as princesses to the franchise. The two will be added once/if they are added. Moana is not even a thought at this point in time.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 01:18, 3 June 2014 (UTC)