Talk:IPhone 6 Plus

Merge

The iPhone 5C situation is completely different to this. This literally is just the same thing as the iPhone 6, but with just slight upgrades. The current iPhone 6 article adequately covers both phones. Separate articles will contain too much redundant information, as if having to re-explain every single aspect of the iPhone line to make the articles "self-contained" and FA eligible was silly enough already. It seems as if the only people who are arguing that it needs a separate article are Apple fanboys, because obviously, every single Apple product, no matter how in different they are, requires a separate page in their opinion. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:30, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

That didn't stop you from trying to merge the article with the iPhone 5 article. Can you please stop doing this every year? Its disruptive. Just let the articles grow naturally. And calling people Apple fanboys is akin to a personal attack. Please stick to the subject and do not comment on peoples motives.--JOJ ^Hutton 18:39, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Please do not use my previous actions as justification for your personal consensus. Comment on the content, not the contributor. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• There won't be a merger. Get the fallopiantube on with life.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 18:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, now let me make individual articles for each Macbook Pro screen size variant in every generation of it, because they are clearly notable on their own as separate products per this discussion. /sarcasm ViperSnake151  Talk  19:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

I know you're butthurt that the world is against you on this one, but you'll survive.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 19:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

You have made no real comments on any of my points, not even me pointing out that larger screen does not always equal separate product. Both of you are colluding to prevent consensus-based discussion; consensus can change. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:19, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

It just came out today, let the discussion a month to see if there's any consensus to merge. Lots people will see this thread because article traffic will be high (say HI folks!) But trying to do it on the day an Apple product comes out is just trolling.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 20:16, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose: Let me move my comment on the AfD request to here: They have many differences other than screen size. "The iPhone 6 has 'digital' image stabilization, whereas the iPhone 6 Plus has optical image stabilization." "The iPhone 6 Plus has a different User Interface." [1] I agree with Milowent that we'd better wait for a month before we decide to merge or not, based on how much we can write on iPhone 6 Plus itself. 2014Best (talk) 21:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

You're going by the shoddy wording of a single, Foreign media outlet. The interface on the 6 Plus is not "different" as they claim. The ability to have dual-pane widescreen apps, and the "pull the screen down to reach stuff on the top" thing is on both the 6 and 6 Plus. Any other differences between them can easily (and were prior to this shotgun divorce) be covered in a single article. I envision it like an iMac; there's different screen sizes and storage options. Not every individual SKU gets a distinct article, even if it DOES have a new name. ViperSnake151  Talk  21:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Support: OK, I changed my mind. I support the merge for now. Of course, if in the future, 6 Plus suddenly becomes very notable and we have lots of things to write about, then we can consider split at that time. 2014Best (talk) 23:04, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support: With the differences being this minor, it seems the best way to distinguish the two is to explain those differences in one article. - Josh (talk | contribs) 22:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support: not sufficiently different to warrant re-explaining 90% of the details. OSX (talk • contributions) 01:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support: There are few differences between the two and a separate article is a waste of space. Teammm ^talk
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• Oppose Given that this device is a separate model, a separate name, has a separate price, and has different features, there is no reason to not have separate articles. Just as every other iPhone model has a separate article.JOJ ^Hutton 03:46, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Surely these slight difference will easily fit in a small section for the 5.5" model? MacBook Pro deals with three distinct generations over three screen sizes (some with different names: "MacBook Pro with Retina Display") in a single page. Notability of a subject is separate to having its own article. Having less articles is easier for the reader, and splitting pages is only beneficial when 1) the link between subjects is weak; and 2) if the combined article is becoming overly bloated. OSX (talk • contributions) 04:30, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• Support, I see no reason why we need a separate article to cover something that is almost identical to iPhone 6.--Kuailong (talk) 04:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Merge. Seems reasonable to merge as most of the details for the devices are the same. If the merged article grows to a point that it is too large or details end up differing for the two models enough, then it splitting can be considered at that point. PaleAqua (talk) 04:40, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support: Analogous to two trim levels on a car, really. The amount of shared components and information between the two models is extremely high. Any differences are easily denoted in a single article. --Resplendent (talk) 06:31, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support: There is currently little to no difference between the two articles, and there's no reason to suspect this will change. I think the articles should we merged into one article called "iPhone 6" with maybe a small section that explains differences related to the iPhone 6 Plus. Absolution3241 (talk) 08:47, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Support: The models are too similar to justify a separate article. The iPhone 6 Plus is an iPhone 6 with a larger screen. CPU, memory options, cellular radio options etc. are all the same. The software can make use of the bigger screen but those benefits can be mentioned in a section in the iPhone 6 article. Sjmsteffann (talk) 13:59, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose While the phones are very similar, in the media the phones are referred to separately, and there are articles just about the iPhone 6 Plus.
• Oppose: It seems to me like the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are as different as the Samsung S4 and Samsung S4 mini which both have different articles.

Here are the differences for reference: -iPhone 6 is a 4.7" smartphone, 6 Plus is a 5.5" phablet -iPhone 6 resolution is 1,334 x 750 with around ~320 ppi and 6 Plus is 1,920 x 1,080 with 401 ppi -Multiple sources say 6 Plus has optical image stabilization, instead of 6's digital image stabilization -6 Plus's battery is bigger, 12 hours of internet versus 10 hours of internet use -6 Plus is .28 inches thick, 6 is .27-inch. 6 Plus weighs in at 6.07 ounces while the 6 is 4.55 ounces

These model differences can be shown in one article, see my edits to Amazon Kindle for one way to do it.Frmorrison (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)