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::I still feel that there are details in there that are beyond Wikipedia - but then, an article does not have to be perfect from the beginning either. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 12:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::I still feel that there are details in there that are beyond Wikipedia - but then, an article does not have to be perfect from the beginning either. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 12:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::I have made some corrections to the version by [[User: Marlisco|Marlisco]] and am submitting for revisions. As mentioned by [[User:OccultZone|'''<span style="color:DarkBlue;">Occult</span><span style="color:blue;">Zone''']] I have done an internet search to get details of the scam. Details of that, other than the sting operation by cobrapost.com is not available. Wikipedia page on [[UIDAI]] mentions a scam related to land allocation but found having no relation with Aadhaar. That details regarding the agency,[[UIDAI]] issuing Aadhaar could be included in this page too. Please update with the available information.
[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]], please suggest the necessary corrections
[[User:Ipoll7|Ipoll7]] ([[User talk:Ipoll7|talk]]) 04:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

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Protected edit request on 17 September 2014

Deleting the page on Aadhaar, a highly discussed topic in India, is a ridiculous act to do and is dead against the moto of Wikipedia. Please don’t keep it locked and Wikipedia can take help form eligible editors to modify the page. Ipoll7 (talk) 05:29, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It has not been deleted. Page currently redirects to Unique Identification Authority of India, seems more appropriate. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 05:34, 17 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 18 September 2014

Indeed, page on Aadhaar has not been deleted but is being redirected to Unique Identification Authority of India. Kindly note that these two are functionally different entities. One is the authority issuing UID and another one is the implication of that UID. UIDAI has not had much change other than revised enrollment target, and additional fund allocation, since its establishment. On the other hand Aadhaar has many success and failures, and makes news in Indian media almost every day since new government took charge. So, Aadhaar deserves an additional page, and has enough content too. Blocking that(or redirecting) till September 2015 seems to be unfair and denying information to public who turn to Wikipedia to get a view on many things is highly unethical too.

Protected edit request on 26 September 2014

The post in talk page on Aadhaar has no response as of now. What should an ordinary individual who had voluntarily contributed to Wikipedia have to assume in this scenario? Wikipedia, which stands for democratization of knowledge, had blocked a page, Aadhaar, which is one of the widely discussed topic relevant to every one in six of the world’s human population, the Indian citizens. It could primarily be inferred that the page was blocked, due to few so called editors who are either against or in favor of the scheme called Aadhaar. It is pretty clear that most of the editors involved in this are not for the principles and mottos of Wikipedia, and the administrators haven’t responded to the previous query which could be answered, just by following the ‘vandalism war’ happened with that page itself. As I believe, Wikipedia is as democratic as the part of the world, where Aadhaar is being implemented, everything will have multiple perceptions, opinions and outlook and thereby Wikipedia could have a proper mechanism to deal with that. For a common man, or editors of Wikipedia, it is easy to create a page in any name related to that scheme and furnish the details and link it to the presently diverted page UIDAI. But that is not the right way of implementing the democracy, which Wikipedia stands for. Of course there will be oppositions in democracies and they can delete that page too. But, due to the activities of one editor, who seems so childish, called RavishyamBangalore and those who oppose him, Wikipedia should not have locked a page which is as simple as a scheme of government. Please give a thought and respond. Ipoll7 (talk) 15:01, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 29 September 2014

Please change divert to UIDAI, so that it is developed as an independent page. Please remove the locked status till 2015 September to a reasonably shorter period. Please allow eminent editors of Wikipedia to edit that page and avoid controversies. Ipoll7 (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to be article should be discussed on this page and backed by consensus. To request unprotecting, try WP:RFPP in a week or so. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:09, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The existing redirect page is about the organization which issues Aadhaar. It will not be fine to add about the information about Aadhaar on this page.

As a reply to User:MSGJ the specific change needed is to remove the redirect and to develop it as an independent page.

To point out, few topics like

  • Basic features
  • Eligibility criteria
  • Registration process
  • Architecture
  • Implications
  • Security concerns
  • Government directives
  • Future prospects

are desirable. Ipoll7 (talk) 08:21, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And that is where the problem lies here. We are not writing a manual - topics like 'Eligibility criteria', 'registration process', 'architecture', 'implications', 'security concerns', 'government directives' are inappropriate. Also the 'Future prospects' is inappropriate, because we are also not a crystal ball. If you think that you can write an article that is following our inclusion (and exclusion) standards then please write User:Ipoll7/Aadhaar according to those standards, and get consensus here to overwrite this article (history merge). If you wish, you can start from this version of the article, but likely over 90% of that is utterly not suitable for an encyclopedia article and should go (e.g. sections 2, 4, 5, 7 to 20 can practically be completely removed (some info be merged into the remainder, but some sections are wholesale inappropriate), mostly per the different exclusion criteria in 'What Wikipedia is not'), the rest needs a rewrite). --Dirk Beetstra T C 08:48, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have cleaned-up the version of page suggested by Dirk Beetstra with few recent updates.

@Ipoll7 please use the cleaned-up version User:Ipoll7/Aadhaar for further edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marlisco (talkcontribs) 10:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no problem in supporting this draft. I think we should compulsorily mention about the charges of scam. But first I would like to know what LeoFrank has to say. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 11:48, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I still feel that there are details in there that are beyond Wikipedia - but then, an article does not have to be perfect from the beginning either. --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have made some corrections to the version by Marlisco and am submitting for revisions. As mentioned by OccultZone I have done an internet search to get details of the scam. Details of that, other than the sting operation by cobrapost.com is not available. Wikipedia page on UIDAI mentions a scam related to land allocation but found having no relation with Aadhaar. That details regarding the agency,UIDAI issuing Aadhaar could be included in this page too. Please update with the available information.

Dirk Beetstra, please suggest the necessary corrections Ipoll7 (talk) 04:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]