Talk:Burt Reynolds

Mustache Owner

in the movie Deliverance he does not sport a mustache. maybe a minor edit to reflect that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.102.183.35 (talk) 04:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

GA fail

As it stands, most of the article reads like a list of his film roles, but with a bit of prose. Not very comprehensive. You need to do a lot more research with those external links at the bottom to have this reach GA level. Alientraveller 17:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Reynolds' ancestry

I've corrected the mention about his Italian ancestry, citing a full-length 1982 book biography (Streebeck, Nancy (1982). The Films of Burt Reynolds. Secaucus, N.J.: Citadel Press, 11-12. ISBN0-8065-0785-3). It seems to explain how this misconception about him being Italian started: "[his] best pals were primarily the sons of fishermen along the canal, and most of them were Italian. There was no need for the police chief's namesake to explain his own heritage. On one side of the family, a full-blooded Cherokee grandmother, wife of a forestry ranger, who gave birth to his father on a North Carolina reservation; on the other side of the family, grandparents and mother of pioneer WASP roots, raised in and around central Michigan. Behind "the new boy in town," Burt doted on the immediate attention extended by his waterfront playmaytes. They assumed that he was also Italian, and Burt never corrected them. Pretending to be Italian was Buddy Reynolds' first inkling that a person could be whatever he wanted by merely projecting characteristics of a particular kind. He was acting. He liked it." Mad Jack 21:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

I'd also ask of user User:Rogue Gremlin to comment on what he is reverting and why, as well as add to this particular discussion topic. Mad Jack 01:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Read the above discussions, as RogueGremlin mentioned (can't belive I'm defending him), we've been thru this before. And had got the site to a neutral state. Please stop! Lugnut215 20:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Lugnut215, there isn't any discussion above at all that supports the inclusion of his having Italian ancestry. The Italian thing is really the crux of my edit, because the Time article (which is over 30 years old) is the only reliable source that exists to support it. And there is a reliable source (a book biography with a credited author) that directed conflicts with it. I'd like to see if anyone has a copy of "My Life" (Reynolds' own book) and what he says about his ancestry in it. Mad Jack 05:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

LoL, exactly Lugnut, who would have ever thought we would be on the same side of a burt disagreement, not to mention the book he is citing is not available to the majority of wiki users. His italian heritage should stand as it has been hashed thru before. Also the total bull stuff on his father being a cowboy, before becoming a cop. One book does not take away his heritage.Rogue Gremlin 18:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't consider mentioning he is part Italian to be "neutral" or factual at all. There is a single reference for this. Yes, it's a reliable reference, but there is also a reliable reference that directly contradicts this, and that one was written about 10 years after the first one. Availability to Wikipedia users isn't really a factor - besides, I found this book at my local library, so it's not exactly that rare. Either both claims about his mother's ancestry should be in the article, or neither - so, for the time, I'll remove the mention of his mother's ancestry. Reynolds has written a book biography - "My Life" - in 1994. It is available to search through on Google Books [1]. I can not find a single mention of any Italian ancestry in searching this book on G Books, although Reynolds does state that his mother's maiden name was "Miller" and that her great-grandfather Charles fought in the Civil War, which makes it highly unlikely that he was of Italian descent. If anyone has a copy of the book and can offer any more of what he states about the matter, that would help. BTW, my other edits included removing the "height" and "notable roles" sections, because they've been deleted from the Template:Actor and no longer appear. Mad Jack 05:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Taliaferro there were italians in the civil war, and 2 italians signed the Bill of rights... so it's possible (but I have big doubts) he's part italian, but very probably, if he's it, it will be 1/128 italian...93.32.238.205 (talk) 21:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

• • Just as a side to this discussion, myself and a few others have researched Burt's ancestry through a number of sources, and Census records bare out that his mother was NOT of Italian ancestry. No Italian surnames in her family going back to colonial times. However, Census records also conflict with the North Carolina info shown above. In all Census records, Burt's father was shown to have been born in Michigan. The only Burt/Burton Reynolds born in North Carolina was born roughly 20 years before Burt's father in 1888. Also, Burt's paternal grandmother was Effie M. Thompson. She was also born in Michigan and is listed in Census records as "W" for white. You can see some of these Census images in the "Burt's Website" section above. JSDA 06:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

A book available to be bought does NOT make it available to a majority of the public. You need to read up on those standards. It has to be available in a MAJORITY of libraries across the country. Which that book is NOT. And check your wiki facts, availability to wiki users is a factor.Rogue Gremlin 15:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I will remove height and notable roles from the boxRogue Gremlin 15:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

"And check your wiki facts, availability to wiki users is a factor" - this does not seem to be stated in any policy page. Please read WP:Reliable sources and WP:Citing sources. There is nothing there about availability in "Majority of libraries" (and how would "majority" be established anyway?). It does state "In general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks; magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing houses; and mainstream newspapers". In this case, the publisher is Citadel Press, which according to its Wikipedia article, is a sub-section of Kensington Books, "the largest publisher in the United States that is not considered one of the six "major publishers"". So, once again, I am removing this from the article; I have no problem with stating nothing about his mother's ancestry if there are two conflicting sources about it. Next, it does not belong in the opening paragraph either way, see WP:MOSBIO - "Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability". What we seem to be doing is repeating what was almost certainly a mistake of Time magazine's from 36 years ago. Have you read Reynolds' autobiography? What does he state in it about the matter? Mad Jack 18:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I will find the link to the policy on books. It was given to me when i used a book that was out of print and not avail in most libraries. And how to find out the libraries it is in is easy if you know how to use a computer.Rogue Gremlin 19:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

The book passes the WP:RS criteria of being published by a major publisher. Once again, you included this information in the header of the article as well, which WP:MOSBIO clearly states shouldn't be done. Also, be warry of WP:3RR - if someone reverts an article more than 3 times in the span of 24 hour, they may be subject to be blocked from editing for a time (this applies to both of us). Mad Jack 19:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

You have already reverted 3 times also read the 1st paragraph here. [2] it does not pass and will be reverted. There are 117,000 libraries in the U.S. the book is available in LESS than 1500.Rogue Gremlin 19:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Enough is enough

I have requested for a page protection notice for this page until this stuff above is resolved. FamicomJL 20:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

There is a few things he added that had long been agreed upon to leave out to keep this article in a NPOV, We agreed to leave out his father's middle name as there are several discrepencies, as to whether it is Leon or Milo. Also where his parents were born doesn't really belong here. Then a proper citation was removed of her italian heritage, to be replaced with a SUPPOSED citation of her not being part italian. Which is why the only thing that needs to be there are her parents names (minus his dad's middle name). not their lineage or places of birth.Rogue Gremlin 20:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I've removed a couple of sentences here: [3]. If there's anything that was important and I shouldn't have removed, leave me a note on my talk page please. · AndonicO ^Talk 21:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

For the record, please note that the word "POV" doesn't apply to the topics we seem to be discussing - that someone's middle name is "Milo" or "Leon" or that someone is of Italian ancestry is either a fact, or it isn't a fact - it's not an opinion. I have no qualms about removing his father's middle name. I didn't know it was a topic of contention. I don't have a strong opinion about keeping or removing the places where his parents were born, although I do think the fact that his father was born on a Native American reservation is notable. There is nothing "SUPPOSED" about my citation, it passes WP:RS because it is a published, full-length book with a credited author and coming from a major publishing house, and I have followed all the steps in WP:Citing sources in placing a proper citation that includes all relevant information about the book, including the year, ISBN, and exact page numbers. Of course it passes WP:V because the information has been published in a reliable source ("books published by respected publishing houses"); whether or not a specific Wikipedia user can or can't immediately find a copy of the book is not relevant. I'm not sure how this library thing relates to anything - am I expected to make a list of all the libraries in the United States, find out which of them have a copy, and then calculate a percentage that may or may not pass User:Rogue Gremlin's criteria? It's a silly throwaway part of this discussion. Anyway, I proposed two things above in regards to the Italian issue:

1. Say nothing about his mother's ancestry at all in the article.

2. Consult Reynolds' full-length book autobiography to see what he says about his ancestry.Mad Jack 22:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to look into things and correct them AndonicORogue Gremlin 01:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Unprotect?

I think it's safe to unprotect this page now, since Rogue Grelim has been blocked from editing for about three months, and I myself am perfectly content with the version that's currently there (under protection), so I plan to make no further edits to the article for a long time. Mad Jack 01:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

• • • Apparently its NOT ok to unprotect. I just noticed that once again, someone has changed his place of birth back to Waycross, GA, which is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.133 (talk) 17:39, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

link to movie Heat 1986

some of the links on the table are not direct enough the movie heat links to the wiki page for "Heat" and not the movie "Heat (1986 film)" Samba pa ti 19:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice! I made that change. NCurse _work 15:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Warning

For anyone whoe doesn't know, the longterm disruptive user known as Rogue Gremlin has been banned indefinitely from Wikipedia for using many sockpuppet accounts abusively. This user also edited this article as Aladdin Zane, and that account has also been banned indefinitely. (See Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rogue Gremlin and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Aladdin Zane.)

Considering that this editor has believed for a long time that he owns this article, and he has no regard for other editors' opinions (something I have noticed reading this talk page and seeing his various edit wars in the edit history), I suspect he will be unable to leave this article alone and will create more sockpuppet accounts so he can continue to revert other users' edits. By doing so, he will violate WP:BAN#Evasion and enforcement and WP:SOCK#Circumventing policy.

In fact, he has already created User:TeaAreOhYouBeeElleEe for that purpose.

I hope now that this disruptive editor has been caught, we can start improving this article, and that any "controversial" edits by new/unregistered editors will be looked at closely as they could be this Rogue Gremlin aka Aladdin Zane avoiding his well-deserved lifetime ban. Crazysuit 00:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I do not know what you are talking about. But I do know the consensus on the discussion on Burt Reynolds on TV was to Keep or merge, not to delete. From reading, it was only deleted as no one cited a policy, not because the consensus was to delete.TeaAreOhYouBeeElleEe 18:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The closing admin closed as 'delete'. -- Donald Albury 21:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• • Hi Crazysuit, I noticed you deleted a several paragraphs on the debate over Burt's birthplace with the note that Burt's official website now confirms he was from Lansing (which I agree with by the way, and there is far more evidence supporting this than just his official website). Anyway, if the background info (discussion page content) on the subject is going to be removed for this reason, shouldn't the article page no longer list his birthplace as 'disputed' and list it as Lansing? If left as 'disputed', its not hard to imagine this entire subject flaring up again without the background information that was deleted here. It would be my opinion that if the background info is going to be removed, the article page should show that he was born in Lansing. If the article page is going to continue to list his birthplace as 'disputed', then the background info should be left on the discussion page. My 2 cents anyway...comments? JSDA (talk) 05:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I created the 'disputed' note because RogueGremlin (see above) was raising such a ruckus over saying Reynolds was born in Waycross. It remains true that many sites on the Web (and an early unauthorized biography) give Waycross as his birthplace. We remain with the situation that both Waycross and Lansing can be verified from published sources. The issue then is one of reliability of the sources. I favor stating that Lansing is Reynold's birthplace, but we need to keep a footnote explaining why we regard the sources for Lansing as more reliable than those for Waycross. And this issue will always be subject to flareups; there are just too many people out there who 'know' that Reynolds was born in Waycross. -- Donald Albury 12:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Edits of December 12, 2007

I have just restored material that is sourced from Reynold's biography, making sure that the citations are in place for every paragraph. I removed the flag from the infobox per the guidance at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags)#Not for use in locations of birth and death. I left out the citations to The Films of Burt Reynolds by Nancy Streebeck, as the material cited from it is vague, but seems to be already covered in the article,i.e.:

1. Placing the statement that his father was police officer in the sentence about his birth implies that Burt's father was a police officer at the time. Per Reynolds' autobiography, his father became a police officer after the family moved to Riviera Beach. Unless the Streebeck book or another reliable published source specifically states that his father was a police officer when he was born, the claim should not be mentioned in connection with Burt's birth.

2. The Streebeck book is cited as saying that "Reynolds' family lived in several Southern and Midwestern cities during his childhood". Two places in Michigan are already cited from his autobiography, so the Midwest is covered. As Reynold's autobiography states that the family moved directly from Michigan to Florida, a vague statement that he lived in "several Southern cities" needs something. If the Streebeck book names other cities, they should be specified. -- Donald Albury 01:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Does Reynolds's autobiography state that his mother was of Italian descent? This is one of the main claims that was discussed above, and I see the same source cited for it as before. Mad Jack (talk) 08:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

• • Someone has once again changed the birthplace info after Donald Albury set it. If its going to say 'disputed', the mounds of evidence showing that Burt was born in Lansing (vs. "I saw him say on tv that he was born in Waycross") should not be removed from the discussion page (the reference on the article page refers here for more information about the topic of Burt's place of birth). I almost wonder if the edit came from our old friend Rogue Gremlin because the edit definitely reads like his work. As for being of Italian descent on his mother's side, that was shown not to be the case in Census records, etc. going back to colonial times. This was included in the information that someone deleted from the discussion page. I knew this was going to happen. Somebody felt that the discussion page was too messy, so they threw the baby out with the bath water, and now we're having the same questions arise that were answered in the deleted information. (sigh) I'll wait to see if Donald wants to lock the article page again to prevent further birthplace edits. If the article page is left as disputed, I will repost all of the information showing that Burt was born in Lansing here. JSDA (talk) 23:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I will not be protecting the page. As an active editor on this page, it would be inappropriate for me to use my admin powers here. I left the birthplace as 'disputed' this time when I restored the material about Reynold's early life that is sourced from his autobiography. I inadvertently included the bit about Reynold's mother being Italian when I copied material from an earlier version to make sure that I included proper page citations to Reynold's autobiography. -- Donald Albury 01:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

• • • • I just noticed that an archive was created of the discussion on Burt's birthplace (at the upper right of this page), for anyone looking for further information on Burt's birthplace and discussion of his ancestry, there is a ton of information on the subject there (census records, city directories, newspaper articles, county birth records, etc.) JSDA (talk) 08:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

WTF?

Could someone explain the meaning of this, please? "Reynolds was a decorated civil war veteran where he fought for both the north and the south. He then claimed allegiance to and victory when he sided with the north."

Surely he's not THAT old!!! (79.190.69.142 (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC))

Death soon?

Some tabloid at the grocery store has an article about Burt dying. I thought he was in the same league as Chuck Norris, Mr. T, and Bruce Lee, just doesn't have a "facts" website. Sierraoffline444 (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Saturday Night Live

Isn't it worth mentioning the impersonation of Burt Reynolds on Saturday Night Live's Celebrity Jeopardy sketches? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.212.35 (talk) 23:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Needs much more

I know this article has had its issues and much info had to be removed, but it is now really lacking. BR was one of the biggest movie stars on the planet during the 70s, but there is practically no mention of this or of his films during the 70s. In fact, the article practically skips his entire 70s film career. DFS (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

it does not mention that burt reynolds played on marshall dillon show as quint. i watch this show every day and watch burt on it. i just dont know why this article dont mention about him playing quint as a blacksmith on this popular show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.93.35.57 (talk) 12:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Catch .44

What is meant by "pre-production"? He isn't listed in the cast- can someone clarify what his role was in this film? Brauden (talk) 08:55, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

"The project had previously been set up with Burt Reynolds and Maggie Grace starring in the Willis and Akerman roles. It’s unclear how Harvey was able to so quickly upgrade his cast but there must be something about the script that attracted the actors." I can add the reference and change pre-production to replaced pre-production, but would it be better to just remove the movie from the list? Tomsv 98 (talk) 20:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I changed the wording to read, "Was originally cast, but was replaced pre-production", for clarity. Tomsv 98 (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

one of America's most recognizable film and television personalities???

The lead paragraph states "He is one of America's most recognizable film and television personalities with more than 90 feature film and 300 television episode credits.". I think this assertion may be going a bit far. Firstly, how do we measure how "recognizable" one star is compared to another amongst the thousands of actors and actresses who have been famous over the decades? Is Burt more or less recognisable than Tom Cruise, Katherine Hepburn, Harrison Ford, Optimus Prime etc etc? The number of roles he has had isnt really relevant - often the most prolific actors are minor character actors who aren't well known at all. Mr Reynolds has had very few noteworthy roles in the last couple of decades so I'm sure there is a whole generation of audiences who would be unaware of his very existence, so perhaps a more balanced phrase should be used. Thelemur78 (talk) 01:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

There actually is a reliable source for that phrase, in the New Georgia Encyclopedia, in an article created 21 October 2005. It did not appear in the lede of this article until much later, so that makes it look like a copyvio. Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to repair the damage, I go. -- Donald Albury 14:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Film omission: Burt Reynolds stars (Waterproof -- 95 minutes: Burt Reynolds, April Grace, Whitman Mayo, Orlando Jones, et. al. 2008) as a elderly Jewish shopkeeper in Washington, D.C. who is wounded by some teenage robbers, and who is subsequently "kidnapped" by the youngest kid (who was holding the gun when it was fired at him) and his mother, and taken to the small town of Waterproof in a nearby state for home treatment of the wound in his arm, and kept in the home of the boy's mother's parents for about ten days. It is an interesting black-white story of Redemption and healing, with a creative story line and a happy ending. Apparently quite dissimilar to most of the movies in which Reynolds starred. LCStansfield (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC) [Movie available via Sky Angel TV G-Movies 5-4-2013.]

Boogie Nights

The first paragraph of this article lists Boogie Nights as 1970. The credits say 1997. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE4D:6550:2076:85C1:84A7:E850 (talk) 18:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Birthplace

Might be time to lock Burt Reynold's page to edits again, as someone (possibly the return of RogueGremlin) is changing Reynolds' birthplace from Lansing, Michigan to Waycross, Georgia again, when the Waycross, GA information has been proven incorrect a number of times via a number of sources (see the 'Archive' section of this TALK page). In fact, since that original discussion took place and finally ended, ANOTHER source has been made available, the 1940 Census....and what does that Census show? Surprise, surprise...Burt Reynolds (born in Michigan) living with his family in Lansing in 1940.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K4L6-RV4

JSDA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.133 (talk) 20:51, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea how this talk page is supposed to work but I know there is a lot of controversy over where he is from. In 2013 (I'm pretty sure) he sat down with Piers Morgan and Piers said he was born in Waycross, Ga. For what it's worth Burt did not interject or say that is wrong. Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s8ADuPGRFs around the 14 minute mark or so. Just for what it's worth, burtreynolds.net says Waycross, GA as well, but it does not appear to be an official site. They say he is releasing a memoir next year, so maybe we can finally put this to rest then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.196.41.122 (talk) 01:11, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

• There is another video on youtube as well from the carol burnett show. When asked where he was born He states from his own mouth Born in Georgia, but I was raised in Florida. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwlFrST4Acs A piece of paper can be written by anyone(and census papers were filled out by census takers not by the people they ask the questions to). Also a family living in one place while the birth happens in another is very common. take for instance another famous person that has ties to waycross. Gram Parsons. His parents were living in Waycross, and had been for years. When his mom decided to visit her parents home in Florida. As a result he was born in Florida and after his birth his mom returned home to Waycross with him. Gram then grew up in Waycross until he was about 18 then he left home. People from waycross never try to claim gram was born in waycross even though that's were his family was living when he was born. They say he grew up in Waycross. This is the same Burt's family was traveling to Florida when he was born in Waycross. They then returned home to Michigan with Burt where they lived for a few years. Until they returned to Florida. Burt then spent his entire career honoring his birthplace in films and on tv in interviews including the Piers Morgan interview that just recently happened. Long after the supposed autobiography which does NOT state where he was born, it only states the house he returned to after being born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.104.17 (talk) 17:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

• • Also in response to the person that started this section 204.75.125.133. I have checked the archive and read all the information that is AVAILABLE by clicking the links. the information that Burt was born in Waycross was never proven incorrect. The fact that someone used a sockpuppet had no baring on the information that was provided. information that still holds up. Including Burt's Screen Actors Guild information as well as multiple interviews to which links have been provided. And yet no such interview exists of Burt saying he was born in Michigan, The only times he mentions Michigan is when talking about his parents and also early childhood not his birth. Would also like to mention interview that 12.196.41.122 posted is from Oct 26, 2012. In which Piers says let's go back to where it begins, Then proceeds to state Burt was born in waycross, ga and so on. Burt does NOT stop him and say. "You are incorrect I was born in Lansing, Michigan" He sits there without even batting an eye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.104.17 (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

• • • This is incorrect. The 1936 Ingham County Birth Index (Lansing, Michigan) shows Burt Reynolds birth recorded. The 1936 Lansing City Directory shows Burt's father living in Lansing. The 1940 Census shows Burt's family living in Lansing with Burt's birthplace shown as Michigan. The Lansing State Journal published a news story showing Burt visiting the house where he was born in Lansing. Dismissing these is comical. Also, as previously discussed, there is no debate that Reynolds used to 'say' he was born in Waycross. It helped bolsters his southerner image...all the video does is confirm that he used to make this claim. It does nothing to disprove the overwhelming paper trail that he was born in Lansing...or that he himself has also admitted to being born in Lansing (contained in the Lansing State Journal article where he visited his birthplace. - JSDA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 16:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• • • • Family lived in Lansing from 1923 to 1941:

http://www.nndb.com/people/888/000023819/#FN1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 16:30, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• • • • • This has been going on so long (with the page being locked at some points because of the back and forth), I'm not sure what has carried over and I think these points in the archive get lost and aren't easy to find, so I'm reposting a portion of the archived here where the overwhelming evidence that Burt was born in Lansing is addressed, and RogueGremlim's (who contended he was born in Waycross) responses (or lack-there-of):

1. Autobiography implies Burt was born in Lansing, not in the south. Rogue’s explanation: Autobiography was ghost written and is wrong. 2. Burt’s Official website states he was born in Lansing, Michigan. Rogue’s explanation: Website is wrong, just repeats wrong info from elsewhere. 3. VPI (company hired to design & create Burt’s Official website) states they have ‘confirmed’ Burt was born in Lansing. Rogue’s explanation:  ??? 4. City directories from Lansing, Michigan show Burt’s parents lived in Lansing from 1923 through 1941 (Burt was born in 1936). Not only that, but in 1936 they were living on Donora St. (where Rogue has acknowledged that Burt Reynolds lived when he was born). Rogues explanation: None, other than it is a coincidence that there is a Donora St. in Lansing, Michigan where a Burton M. Reynolds and Fern H. Reynolds just happened to live. (note: Burt’s autobiography states that he lived on ‘Donora Street’. Not Danora Drive (which is the only name close to this near Waycross, GA) 5. Burton Leon Reynolds’ birth is noted in the Ingham County Birth Index in 1936. This is the county where Lansing is located (images of the index are provided). Rogue’s response: These documents are posted on a page hosted by Lugnut, therefore they easily could be created or modified. They also would not hold up in court since it’s a photocopy. (Note: Lugnut provides a link to the FHL catalog where anyone can request a copy of the films to verify their authenticity). He also questions the FHL’s legitimacy as a reliable source of information. (he really tried to cover all of his bases on this one...and who can blame him? We're looking at the next best thing to seeing Burt's birth certificate, which we couldn't see because he is a living individual) 6. In 1974, Wanda Bookman (a cousin of Burt’s) brings a photocopy of Burt’s birth certificate to the Lansing State Journal showing that Burt was born on Feb. 11, 1936 in Lansing, MI. The birth certificate shows that Burt’s father was Burton Milo Reynolds and his mother was Fern H. Miller. Mrs. Bookman had to show that she was related to Burt to get a copy of the birth certificate. Rogues response: Rogue doesn’t believe anything from the Lansing State Journal since it states that Burton ‘Milo’ Reynolds was Burt’s father, which he contends is incorrect (Note: See Census record info in #13 below) 7. Paul Corey, an old friend of Burt’s father who served in the same unit with him in the war, visits Burt’s father and Burt’s father confirms that he was born on Donora Street in Lansing and also says that he has no idea why so many biographies state that his son was born in Georgia when it simply isn’t true. Rogue’s response:  ??? 8. 1987 - Lansing State Journal cites a telephone interview with Burt Reynolds where he states, “I was born in Lansing on Donora Street, but then we moved to Georgia and Florida.” Rogue’s response: Claims this was not a phone interview with Burt Reynolds, but rather a quote from an interview about Burt. Rogue does concede that Burt was born on a 'Donora Street'. The only Donora Street's in the U.S. are in Lansing, MI and Pittsburg, PA 9. 1987 – Burt Reynolds visits the home of his birth on Donora Street in Lansing. Visit is covered by the Lansing State Journal. The homes current owners describe the visit in the article and are photographed in front of the home. Rogues response:  ??? 10. 1930 Census shows Burt’s parents and sister living in Lansing, Michigan. Burt’s father is listed as “Burton M. Reynolds”. Rogue insists Milo wasn’t Burt’s father’s middle name and claims it was ‘Leon’. Rogue’s explanation: He has no explanation for the middle initial ‘M’ being listed on the Census record. 11. 1920 Census shows that Burt’s maternal grandfather’s name is Leon. This almost surely proves that Burt got his middle name from his maternal grandfather, not his father as Rogue contends. Rogue’s explanation: None (possibly coincidence?) 12. 1870 Census shows that Burt’s paternal grandmother’s (Effie Thompson) father was named Milo Thompson, almost surely showing this is where Burt’s father got the middle name “Milo”. Rogue’s response: Irrelevant because Burton Milo Reynolds wasn’t Burt’s father. 13. Rogue claims Burt’s father was Burton Leon Reynolds, Sr. Census records show there was no such person. Rogue admits that Burt’s family was from Michigan, but the only Burt/Burton Reynolds listed in Michigan was Burton Milo Reynolds. There was a Burton Lee Reynolds and a Burton L. Reynolds in Maine, but dates and locations show neither of these men could have been Burt’s father. Also, only Burton M. Reynolds was married to a ‘Fern’.: Rogue’s explanation. None, other than to question why Burt is a ‘Jr.’ if his father wasn’t a Burton Leon Reynolds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Here is a follow up article to this subject from 2011 on Lansing Online with additional info:

http://lansingonlinenews.com/news/lost-lansing-burt-reynolds-native-son-and-now-wikipedia-agrees/

Obviously it's a little older now because the article notes that his birthplace is no longer disputed on Wikipedia....well, it wasn't till these most recent edits again. LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 18:17, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

In going back to visit this discussion in the archives, I noticed that the site that hosted the images of newspaper articles showing Burt Reynolds’ visit to the house he was born in, and the site that hosted the image of the 1936 birth index recording Burt’s birth in Ingham County, Michigan (Geocities) is no longer available. I’ve contacted the person that originally uploaded the images to see if he still has copies so we can upload them again. In the meantime, the film of the 1936 birth index record for Burt can be ordered from the FHL.

Index to births R-Z 1867-1974 (Ingham County, Michigan) Film #975637

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/206836?availability=Family%20History%20Library — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 21:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

"Planes 2: Fire & Rescue"

Hello! In the movie, "Planes 2: Fire & Rescue", there is a big party, in which "Boat Reynolds" arrives as a VIP guest. So in this movie franchise universe, that's how Burt Reynolds is known as, and he is a nice boat indeed. However, I couldn't tell from the credits, whether or not Burt Reynolds himself played that cameo role or not. I was hoping that "Wikipedia" would inform me, but it hasn't been updated to reflect as much. Does anyone else know for sure? LeoStarDragon1 (talk) 16:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Injury on the film-set

'On the first day of shooting of the 1984 film City Heat... Reynolds was struck in the face with a metal chair, which broke his jaw.'

Was this an accident, or some kind of disagreement? Valetude (talk) 11:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

The debate on his birth is now over

The debate on his birthplace is now over. Unless video can be found disproving the words from Burts on mouth in the video from Carol Burnett show in 1972, and from the very recent interview he just completed with Piers Morgan. Carol Burnett audience question is at the 4:40 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwlFrST4Acs

Piers Morgan interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEUfaYUwwk8. The Piers Morgan interview is from Oct 26, 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.104.17 (talk) 17:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC) 

HAAA! I love the proclamation that the debate is now over. You're correct that there is no debate...but its because his birth is recorded in Lansing, Michigan. All the video did is show what we already knew...that Burt has claimed to be from Waycross previously. He has ALSO admitted to being born in Lansing and his visit to the home he was born in was recorded in the Lansing Journal. - JSDA

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"Burt Reynolds visits his hometown

Lansing was Burt Reynolds’ first home. The actor returned to visit in 1987. He was in town as a radio commentator for the Florida State University football team at the FSU-Michigan State University game in September.

Reynolds is a former Seminoles player. “I was born in Lansing on Donora Street, but then we moved to Georgia and Florida,” Reynolds said in a telephone interview.

He had made a surprise visit to the residence at 1703 Donora St., the day before and took a picture for his mother at their former home.

Source: Lansing State Journal, Sept. 25 & 27, 1987."

https://lansing150.wordpress.com/2012/09/23/9th-september-2009/

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September 26, 1987 EAST LANSING, Mich. -- There will be at least one celebrity in the crowd today when Florida State meets Michigan State at Spartan Stadium. Burt Reynolds, a former Florida State football player, reportedly has said he will make a return visit to a Lansing address where he lived as a child before heading to the stadium for the game.

"I was born in Lansing on Donora Street, but then we moved to Georgia and Florida," Reynolds said. "I've never considered myself a Michigander, but I'm looking forward to going back.

"I promised my mom I`d find the address and take some pictures for her."

Reynolds' mother, was born Fern Miller in Lake City, Mich. His father, Burt, was born in Eaton Rapids, Mich.

"I have a lot of family still in Michigan, but mostly around Cadillac and Traverse City," said Reynolds, who moved to Georgia and Florida after Michigan.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1987-09-26/sports/8703160090_1_reynolds-east-lansing-michigan-state — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 00:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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Updated link to images from the Lansing State Journal, city directories, and most importantly, the Ingham County (MI) Birth index (with reference to where you can view this film yourself), which shows Burt's birth recorded "Burton Leon Reynolds" (line 5, right hand side):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lugnut215/sets/72157647964741593/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.75.125.134 (talk) 20:26, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

• • • Feel free to post video of the man saying it himself. Nothing written by someone else contradicts his own words.