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| Thanks for your oppose on my RFA. The final vote count was (0/10/0), so I am now an [[Wikipedia:User|normal user]]. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. I can't give it though. Once again, thank you. [[user:GangstaEB|<font color="black">Gang</font>]][[user talk:GangstaEB|<font color="red">sta</font>]][[WP:EA|<font color="green">E</font>]][[Special:Contributions/GangstaEB|B]] [[user:GangstaEB/Progress|help me improve!]] 23:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC) I did steal this off Wickethewok's RFA thank-you too. |
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Re: 3RR
Thank you for not giving an official warning, I think, though I noticed you reported me anyway. I didn't even realize I have violated the rule; I was caught up in the frustration of attempting to contact the other user in an attempt to resolve the dispute, only to see the same edit over and over without comment. - Pal 17:25, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! It's completely understandable to get frustrated over being reverted without an explanation, and since you explained your position on the talk page, I didn't feel it was right to warn you for edit warring as you were trying to solve the issue on the talk page. I reported the incident to 3RR with the hopes that the admins will enact some measure to stop the edit warring by anonymous IP's. I'm sure that you are in the clear (i.e. you won't be blocked or anything like that). Feel free to leave comments on the incident's page if you have anything to add to the report. Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 06:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Xeyes
First of all, hello! I appreciate your effort for making Wikipedia a better place, and being part of Esperanza. However, I don't think my Xeyes edit should be reverted. It's an article about Linux/Unix, and it should have the word 'manpage', rather than 'manual page', as I've seen in other Unix articles. But, if you think it's better that way, I won't stop you. Just suggesting that word! :) - 201.231.130.132
- Hi there! When I reverted your edit, I simply thought of it as a case of misspelling or semantics. If you've seen the "manpage" term used more often, I'll be happy to take you at your word and revert it back to your version! Thanks for commenting on my talk page and I hope you stick around! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Zidane headbutt
Um, not notable? A major event in the biggest sporting match on the planet, seen by millions and the lead story on every sports news site worldwide at the moment? What's your reasoning? NawlinWiki 22:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a blog or an AP feed. As such, an image of Zidane receiving a red card is not notable enough to be inserted in the article, especially when there is only one other image of him (which is isolated in the infobox). One cannot reasonably expect to see an image of Zidane's headbutt when one does not see images of him at award's banquets when he is receiving FIFA Player of the Year honours or UEFA's Best Footballer of the Past 50 Years. One must put things in perspective. And by the way, the lead story is Italy's victory ;) hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough, I suppose the rationale is different for the image v. the incident itself. NawlinWiki 22:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
But who are we at the end of the day to say what is notable and what is not Hoop? I think in situations like this its only fair to point out that the event happened, including only information we know to be true, and then provide a link to a video or pictures of the event so that people can make up their own oppinions, rather than to just say "its not important". I just think the people should be able to see for themselves. --Brandon Warzybok 19:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! There is Wikipedia policy outlining what is notable and what isn't (see WP:NPOV), so you're right, it's not really up to you or me to decide what it notable. We can just collaborate and discuss how best to implement Wikipedia policy. I've been saying that the incident is notable to his performance in the 2006 World Cup and not particularly notable enough to warrant being the only picture in the article. I feel that there are many more things in Zidane's career that are more appropriate to highlight with a picture. As such, I think we should probably leave the picture in and try to find other pictures to insert that highlight the more notable aspects of his career (see the talk page of Zidane for the entire discussion). What do you think? hoopydinkConas tá tú? 19:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I didnt realise they were trying to make that picture his only picture in the article, and in that regard I agree with you. Perhaps the incident is enough to warrant a article of its own for both viewpoints to be ponted out, as including that information on Zedine's page itself does indeed question his legacy illigitimately. --Brandon Warzybok 20:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
That was not a test edit
They were led indirectly by him, why am I being treated like this? 216.79.146.128 16:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi and thanks for commenting on my talk page! First off, I apologize if you felt at all disrespected or slighted by my reversion of your edit. I simply reverted your edit, which was original research and a bit biased. If you feel that the edit is a factual historical accuracy, I invite you to cite your sources. Please feel free to click on the blue links and read up a bit on what Wikipedia considers to be an encyclopedic edit. Thanks again and feel free to contact me again with any comments or questions! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see a bit how that is biased, that can be proven. De Rosas WAS a key factor in the conflict. 216.79.146.128 17:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi again! Could you find a source to place into the article? hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'll go huntin' 216.79.146.128 17:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi again! Could you find a source to place into the article? hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:04, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see a bit how that is biased, that can be proven. De Rosas WAS a key factor in the conflict. 216.79.146.128 17:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
JD-E R in Scrubs Deletion
Hello, Hoopydink. I am new to Wikipedia and I am just interested about the Articles For Deletion process on my article for Scrubs. I understand that my article may not be within the rules of Wikipedia, so I would be very grateful if you could explain exactly why. I have tried to follow the basic rules of accountability, impartiality and relevance, but from reading deletion and content guides I am still unsure about all the specifics of the rules. I have added a references section to my article with links, in order to back up the sources. I am also unsure of how to participate in the ADF process, so I am unable to defend my article. If you could contact my 'My Talk' section, I would be very thankful. EJB341 19:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)EJB341
- Hi! First off, thank you for spending your valuable time trying to help Wikipedia by writing an article. Unfortunately, your article fails some criteria that Wikipedia has set for its articles. For example, Wikipedia has a policy of no original research. Your article is an essay (a very good one, at that!), not an encyclopedia article. For example, your entry might be seen in an issue of Entertainment Weekly, but would you expect it to be seen in an encyclopedia in your school or town library? Please go here for the AfD on your article. Also, as your article might be deleted from Wikipedia, please copy it to your hard-drive, as I'd hate to see all your hard work go to waste. If you ever have any more questions or comments, please don't hesitate to contact me! Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 19:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for replying, Hoopydink, you were very helpful. But what exactly is the line between an essay and an encyclopedic article? Are there any changes I can make to turn J.D.-ERiS into an encyclopedic article? I have already saved my writing on my computer, so it is safe in case it cannot be saved. Would the writing still be revelevant in the context of an existing Scrubs article, as some AFD comments have suggested?
EJB341 20:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)EJB341
- I suggest taking a look at this introduction to editing and this tutorial to editing, which can give you both general and specific tips, guidelines, and suggestions for editing and creating articles. In terms of your article, it has phrases such as "some people criticised" and "some think may happen." The reader needs to know who exactly "some" is, and this can be acheived by placing a verifiable source (see WP:CITE for a more detailed description) into the article where the comment is or at the end of the article as a footnote. Your writing can definitely be relevant if you wish to add text into the character's respective articles and mention the relationship. Also, you can mention the relationship as a key plotline in the Scrubs article. In doing this, just make sure to cite your sources whenever possible. Again, thanks a lot for spending time to help make Wikipedia better and I believe I can speak for the entire community in saying that we hope you stick around! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 20:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
9/11 deletion of "conspiracy theories" section
you should not have deleted my edit to the conspiracy theories section of the 9/11 page. I am not advertising anything. I am providing a viewpoint that is just as valid (and in my own personal opinion, more valid) as the viewpoint fed to us by the government. This is an encylopedia dedicated to providing information to the masses. Don't deny the search for information to those who have not already been able to find the truth. Your deletion amounts to a violation of your own rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.104.166 (talk • contribs)
- I believe I was completely justified in reverting your edit. Your remarks For more information involving the most henious self-inflicted wound to America... are opinions (and quite inflammatory at that) and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. You also wanted readers to go to a Google video, which is spamming. I suggest you read up on Wikipedia policies regarding what Wikipedia is and isn't, opinions and original research, and spamming. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 23:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
That's a Picture of Cam Ward, regarding Martin Gerber's page
that's not a picture of Martin Gerber but a picture of Cam Ward, but i don't know how to change the picture, http://nhl.speedera.net/image-upload/gerber_martin_194x210.jpg <here's a picture of Gerber, if you could change it thanks, you see Gerber used to wear 29 with the canes and ward wears 30 so to canes fans it obvious, and i don't want people who look at information to see it and think that's him :-) i didn't mean to delete cams picture but i guess it took it away, I'm sorry! :-( but i didn't know how to fix it and was gonna try later, my bad. --TimeToGoOutside 00:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! Keen eye spotting the mistake! I uploaded that shot of Gerber, so check out the page now and see if the picture is to your liking. Feel free to contact me again with any other questions or comments. Also, why not get a user name and stick around Wikipedia a while? Your hockey knowledge would be a tremendous asset! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 00:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- thanks for fixing the picture! and i did get a user name and added some pictures of various players and various stuff about my favorite bands ^_^
--TimeToGoOutside 00:04, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds good, man! If you have any questions, just drop me a line! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 00:08, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Meg White Talk Page.
NO. I am serious about the latter, and I want all the crap that's filling up the large majority of the talk page removed. Meg is a great drummer, and she dosen't need all this shit saying "oh yeah, she sucks..". There isn't any special kind of drumming that all drummers have to go by, drummers can be creative and unique, and Meg is one of those drummers. If this stuff is not removed in the next 7 days, I will delete all of it. --S-man 17:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Users are disallowed from removing productive comments from the talk pagtes of articles. You are also not allowed to give any sort of ultimatum. If you do follow through with your threat, you'll probably be blocked from Wikipedia and will no long be able to participate in the project, which is something no one wants. I suggest trying to approach some of the article's contributors in a polite fashion and work towards some sort of compromise. Good luck! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Emile Heskey
Hi. Emile Heskey is known for falling over easily....it is not an insult. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.224.237 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! I didn't make any comment to you about him falling over being an insult. The comments in question include; known for being overweight, which wasn't really that insulting, although competely inappropriate. Your comment His talents? What talents? is quite insulting, and again, entirely inappropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a blog, nor is a message board forum, so please keep your opinions to yourself when editing articles (see WP:NPOV for a more detailed explanation of Wikipedia's policy regarding inserting opinions into articles). hoopydinkConas tá tú? 19:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
about admendments to Finnish War entry
great article! - the only changes i have made are of a grammatical and spelling nature. no need for vandalism comments here! :-)
VH1
Your message was crass and offensive. I am a regular contributor to Wikipedia and the edit in question belongs neither to reversion nor the sandbox. Please do not revert again. 74.132.209.231 21:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you feel offended, but my message was neither crass nor offensive. Irregardless of whether or not you are a new user or a regular contributor, I found your edit to be violating the Wikipedia policy of no original research. Again, I'm sorry that you took my message so harshly, but I didn't use any demeaning or callous language whatsoever. In fact, it is the test 1 template and begins with "Thank you". hoopydinkConas tá tú? 21:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi!
that giant rat did bite me, and i'm glad hea's dead, its all factual. how dare you remove my edits. also, how did you message me? i can't figure out how to message people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.16.90.172 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! It seems as if you have a decent handle on messaging as you were able to successfully contact me. I'm not sure if I can be of any more help in that respect. Furthermore, I'm quite sorry to hear about your misadventures with the rat and I'm sure your mates will be able to either sympathise or laugh with you. However, Wikipedia isn't the proper forum to tell people about your bite. Perhaps take a look at WP:NOR and WP:NOT, which are links to Wikipedia policies that might help better explainn why I reverted your edit. Cheers! (Also, try some Neosporin so you don't get infected ;)) hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Stafy page
I don't think that the Stafy page should be reverted. I was posting info I can gather from the games.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.63.53 (talk • contribs)
- Hi there! Wikipedia is not a forum for posting strategy information about video games, nor is it a place to publish your original research. Unfortunately, I had to revert your edits on that basis. I suggest going to a video game message board where I'm sure your information will be appreciated and well-received. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- But isn't Wikipedia is supposed to be a place to post info? =o
I was posting the attack names and such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.63.53 (talk • contribs)
- Indeed, however not the type of info you were posting. Please click on the blue links I provided, as they clearly outline what is appropriate. Think of it this way; Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such, it has certain policies regarding what is appropriate. Would you expect to see the type of information you provided in an encyclopedia you checked out of your school's library? Probably not, right? hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.63.53 (talk • contribs)
- No problem. If you have any questions about Wikipedia or anything, feel free to drop me a line. Also, you can sign your name (or your IP, I suppose) by simply inserting four tildes ( ~ these things). Also, why not stick around and get a username? hoopydinkConas tá tú? 03:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.63.53 (talk • contribs)
vandalizeing?
I was makeing real articals and I was right. I am not vandalinzing I was putting in real information. Now I have to do it all over again. Thanks alot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Demon(sic) (talk • contribs)
- You are creating nonsense articles consisting of vulgar humour, not real ones. That is vandalism hoopydinkConas tá tú? 03:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
IUP Band Removal
Hi,
I recently edited a section on the IUP band and it was removed. Why?? The section needs expansion!!
Best, Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.121.71.2 (talk • contribs)
- Hi there! I believe I can speak for the entire Wikipedia community in inviting you to contribute as much as you want to IUP or any other article, but I must let you know that there are proper ways to edit articles. Your edit was a bit biased towards the marching band's abilities and also contained original research. I suggest you check out the blue links, as well as Wikipedia's introduction to editing. These links will better inform you on what sort of edits are deemed contributory by Wikipedia. For example, adding someone who's a "generelly cool guy (sic)" to the alumni list is not a productive edit. Feel free to contact me again with any other questions or comments you might have. Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 19:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
not a test edit
You just reverted my edit to achewood. I made it for a reason and I don't think it deserved to be reverted. Do you just revert every edit from an IP? I respect that you are trying to keep wikipedia free of vandalism but maybe you should look at a page before you revert it. -66.226.105.42 20:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! I did look at your edit, as I do all edits before I decide whether or not to revert them. There are plenty of great edits made by IP's, but unfortunately yours was not one of them (I apologize if I'm sounding a bit harsh). Your wording was awkward and just as repetitive as the phrase you edited. As such, I didn't feel that your edit was beneficial to the article. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 20:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Then why not just fix the wording? The edit was clarifying that the book/zine are not ABOUT the characters but rather written BY the characters, that is in the voice of the characters. It was a factual correction, not a rewording. -66.226.105.42 20:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I thought I did fix the wording by reverting your edit. I'll agree that the phrase I reverted back to was a bit repetitive as well, so feel free to give the article a copyedit! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 20:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- I did copyedit it, you reverted it, remember? Maybe ease up on the trigger finger, that's all I'm saying.
- I thought I did fix the wording by reverting your edit. I'll agree that the phrase I reverted back to was a bit repetitive as well, so feel free to give the article a copyedit! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 20:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Then why not just fix the wording? The edit was clarifying that the book/zine are not ABOUT the characters but rather written BY the characters, that is in the voice of the characters. It was a factual correction, not a rewording. -66.226.105.42 20:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear Hoopy
Dear Hoopy, now that you've just entered your 7th month as a Wikipedian, (congrats btw! :) how long until we start thinking about your RfA? Just a thought... ;) Big hugs, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 20:54, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Phaedriel! Seven months, eh? The time sure does fly! Thanks for the congrats! In regards to a possible RfA, I'd certainly be willing to take on a bit of extra responsibility and would welcome a discussion to see if the community would like me to do so. I've actually been wondering the same about you! It's always nice to hear from you and I hope you're having an enjoyable summer! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 21:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
RfA thanks
Samsara (talk • contribs) 21:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Re:vandal
A little while ago you reverted these edits and warned the user not to vandalise. I can see that the user has a history of stupid edits but I don't believe that this particular edit was like that. It was a bunch of trivial information that I may have deleted from the article anyways (and thus I have no intention of re-reverting), but I believe it was taken from the Japanese wiki so just be careful when you accuse users of vandalism. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 23:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message! I left a t3 warning on the user's page as the user had already received similar warnings from other user's who spent their valuable time reverting his/her edits. I saw that the "trivia" added consisted of original research and were unsourced and a bit defamatory. For example, Matsumoto was picked on a lot in 1st grade and Matsumoto didn't like Hamada when they first met because Hamada had permed hair (he looked like a punk) and Matsumoto was afraid of him are silly remarks that are at the very least entirely inappropriate. I always try to be polite and understanding when talking to new users, but in this case, I felt the t3 warning was justified. In any case, I thank you for your comments and feel free to contact me again any time. Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 23:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Although they may appear as OR, they are not. It is very common for profiles of Japanese celebrities (especially comedians) to list silly tidbits that were discussed in TV interviews and such (you may be aware of the Japanese reputation for absurd, even redundant detail), and even the most famous of celebrities are extremely "defamatory" to themselves and their partners, though I'd rather call it a sense of humour. They were unsourced, and slightly inappropriate for a Wiki article, which is good enough reason not to include them, but I just don't want you to misunderstand the contents of the edit. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 01:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- I was unaware of the cultural differences so thank you for pointing them out! One of the things I love about Wikipedia is that I'm always learning something new! I'm sure you can understand that on the English Wikipedia, those sort of edits could be construed as vandalism, as they are unsourced (and because they are unsourced and of a personal nature, could be considered original research) and a bit silly, as you noted. I apologise if there was any stress caused by my warning, and I'd hope that you'll act as a bridge between cultures and attempt to explain how those edits are not encyclopedic and will be treated as such by other editors. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Although they may appear as OR, they are not. It is very common for profiles of Japanese celebrities (especially comedians) to list silly tidbits that were discussed in TV interviews and such (you may be aware of the Japanese reputation for absurd, even redundant detail), and even the most famous of celebrities are extremely "defamatory" to themselves and their partners, though I'd rather call it a sense of humour. They were unsourced, and slightly inappropriate for a Wiki article, which is good enough reason not to include them, but I just don't want you to misunderstand the contents of the edit. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 01:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
My RfA
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/1908_Ford_Model_T.jpg/125px-1908_Ford_Model_T.jpg)
For those of you who supported my RfA, I highly appreciate your kind words and your trust in me. For those who opposed - many of you expressed valid concerns regarding my activity here; I will make an effort in addressing them as time goes on while at the same time using my admin tools appropriately. So, salamat, gracias, merci, ありがとう, спасибо, धन्यवाद, 多謝, agyamanak unay, شكرًا, cảm ơn, 감사합니다, mahalo, ขอบคุณครับ, go raibh maith agat, dziękuję, ευχαριστώ, Danke, תודה, mulţumesc, გმადლობთ, etc.! If you need any help, feel free to contact me.
PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. --Chris S. 23:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Test?
Excuse me? How was that a test? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.173.189 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! Please check out Wikipedia's introduction to editing and policies on what Wikipedia is and isn't. Listing students who are leaders of their respective school clubs is not encyclopedic information. When I first started editing, I had no clue about policies or anything like that, so don't worry about it. I do hope you'll keep editing on Wikipedia and perhaps get a user name! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
University of Texas at Austin
I regret that you reverted all of my factual edits of the University of Texas at Austin. Next time, you might want to check your facts before reverting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.217.228.206 (talk • contribs)
- As far as I can tell, Tony Danza has yet to let UT know who's the boss, as your edit otherwise suggests. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Abt Chitradura
Hi, Actually Chitradurga is name of a place in India. Somebody mistakenly created a article (incorrectly) named Chitradura. Actual article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitradurga . Can you please remove the article named Chitradura now? If you have any qns let me know -manju
- Hi! What I can do is create a redirect to the correctly-named article. Now, if anyone types in the word "Chitradura", they will be sent to the "Chitradurga" article. Thanks for bringing this to my attention! A bit of advice though; do not blank pages. Simply contact someone (an administrator, perhaps) and ask them for help. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 23:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Nice to know my contribs are appreciated- thanks for supporting my nomination. Yeah I should probably withdraw soon. Ronan.evans 02:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good plan, mate! If you want to get feedback on your editing, perhaps consider starting an editor review and mentioning that you've started one on the rugby WikiProject's talk page, so people familiar with your contributions can weigh in hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- So how do I withdraw nomination?- never had to do it before. Ronan.evans 02:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- On your RfA page where you originally accepted your self-nomination, you can say that you've decided to withdraw hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh- easy enough. I thought I was some formal banish page forever thing. Ronan.evans 02:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- It'll actually be archived for reference purposes, so if you ever want to visit it again, it'll be there hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- I was thinking that maybe you could nominate me (as you offered) in around two months. I should probably get around 1000 edits together by then and that should address the inexperiance issue. Every opposing vote I had was on inexperiance. Thanks again. Ronan.evans 03:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! First off, I'd hate to see you succumb to editcountits. I hope that you'll measure your contributions not by the quantity of your edits, but by the quality of them. If you're thinking of becoming an administrator in the future, I suggest signing up for admin coaching. This will pair you up with one or a few administrators who will help you get a better feel for certain administrative and policy-related tasks, among other things. Also, take a look at this list of standards some users have outlined as criterion they are looking for in a potential admin. I think you could be a great administrator in the future, but remember adminship is not that big a deal. With that, I'd be more than happy to nominate you for adminship somewhere down the line if, at a later date, you still feel that it'll enable you to become a more productive editor. Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 03:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- I was thinking that maybe you could nominate me (as you offered) in around two months. I should probably get around 1000 edits together by then and that should address the inexperiance issue. Every opposing vote I had was on inexperiance. Thanks again. Ronan.evans 03:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- It'll actually be archived for reference purposes, so if you ever want to visit it again, it'll be there hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:25, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Oh- easy enough. I thought I was some formal banish page forever thing. Ronan.evans 02:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- On your RfA page where you originally accepted your self-nomination, you can say that you've decided to withdraw hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- So how do I withdraw nomination?- never had to do it before. Ronan.evans 02:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
my deletion
I should have said something on the discussion page but I believe I had very valid reason for my deletion. I read the standards for historical dates page and it states only mark events of significant historical importance. The 10th season of Stargate and a football scandal in Italy seem realitively minor in the scheme of history (specifically on the date july 14th). Perhaps the mention of stargate as the longest running american scifi show would be more appropriate at its starting date. -thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.169.137 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! Thanks for commenting on my talk page! I agree that both incidents have cases for both inclusion and removal from the list. You can re-delete them if you want and make a case on the talk page. I don't have a strong opinion for either case. My reasoning for reverting your deletion is that there was no edit summary provided and as a new user, I simply thought that you deleted the two incidents by accident. Again, thanks for letting me know your intentions! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 06:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the rv
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The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
I award you this barnstar for your vandalism reverts on my user page, removing the profanities 65.11.131.16 left on it. Thanks, and keep up the good work! Killfest2 08:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC) |
- Cheers mate! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 08:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Revert??
Why did you take away my edit from the Rodriguez page? It was not vandilizing it in anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.194.58.61 (talk • contribs)
- The reason is best summed up by this policy here. Killfest2 13:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, Daniel Bryant pointed you in the right direction and should be thanked! Specifically, you inserted a non-notable person into an an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so we don't know if the person you inserted will, in fact, become a Soon to be famous Artist, Scientist, etc. as you put it. Furthermore, you didn't try to ascertain any notability by sourcing you claims. See WP:CITE if you want to learn how to source properly. I hope this clears everything up, and feel free to contact me again if you have any more questions or comments!hoopydinkConas tá tú? 14:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Boom Bip Revisions
Hey i made an addition to the Boom Bip dicography and you reverted the edit. I add his album "Doo Doo Tones" to the discography. It exists and should be on the discog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.149.33.74 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! Thank you so much for commenting on my talk page and bringing my mistake to my attention. I've since reverted my changes back to your original edit and have removed the bit about your edit being a experiment on yout talk page. I had erred due to the name of the discography and it being your first edit. I apologise for not assuming the best of faith! I hope this won't turn you off to future edits to Wikipedia, as your valuable contributions would welcome and appreciated by the community! Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:17, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
My RfA thanks
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Hello Hoopydink~enwiki, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka 06:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC) |
A little beef with Haifa history vis-a-vis NPOV
Hi,
The article was fine but I was a bit rattled with the morality of the argument where the last editor (you?) implied that better urban and civil engineering entitles the settlers to the property deeds of the evacuees. Just seemed morally repugnant. I understand these are highly divisive and politicized times but Wikipedia promises to uphold the Neutral Point of View banner.
I wanted to fix the following paragraph and remove the inuendos in these sentences:
1. "The beautiful current infrastructure and vibrant economy of the city is due to Jews that have resettled there"
2. "innovative agriculturists have made better use of water resources than the former inhabitants."
While these sentences might seem like God's own truth to people who have never considered the other side of the coin, please consider that these sentences are very partisan in nature and hardly neutral.
Thanks a bunch if you look into this. (btw what happened to the "anybody can edit" thing?)
-mobi from Pakistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.63.229.194 (talk • contribs)
- Hi Mobi! Thanks for commenting on my talk page. Upon reviewing my edit, I believe that I should've left the bulk of your edit alone, as you made the article a lot better in that you removed blatant POV remarks (remarks that could be disparaging to Arabs, as well). I took issue with one statement you made, as it read a bit POV and was unsourced (Palestinian sources consider this event ethnic cleansing). While I'm sure that opinion is very true among Palestinians, it's better to source such an opinion. I've actually never edited Haifa prior to this, so I can't say that I implied anything. Anyone can edit Wikipedia, which is one of the things I like most about it! I believe I threw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. I'm going to revert my edit again and leave in your edit except for the unsourced Palestinian opinion. If you source it, I think it'd be a fine inclusion in the article. Again, thanks for bringing the matter to my attention and I hope this encounter doesn't leave you at all jaded and I hope you continue to edit Wikipedia, as your contributions would certainly be welcomed! (By the way, you can sign your comments by simply using four tildes [ ~ these things] at the end of your post) Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 18:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support!
Hello Hoopydink and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of (67/0/0)! Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have suggestions or requests - either of an admin nature or otherwise! :) |
Vandalism
I just wanted to let you know that I did not vandalize the Barry Orton page, I was just following the wikipedia style guide in that it's perfered to say "died" instead of passed away, and to remove "the late" from descriptors that do not relate to the person's death, in this case, a relation. --68.180.1.141 02:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi! Thanks for commenting on my talk page. If you edited in good faith, I'll be more than happy to remove the warning template I left on your talk page. I wasn't aware that there is a distinction between the two terms on Wikipedia and thought you were just arguing semantics. In reference to "the late" label affixed to the subject's deceased father, I don't really see why it should be removed but it's such a minor part of the article, so I'll defer to you on this. I sincerely apologise if I acted in bad faith and I hope this doesn't deter you from being bold when editing Wikipedia! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
RfA/Yanksox
It will go live this weekend. You expressed interest in a co-nom. The draft nom is here: User:Crzrussian/Sandbox. - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
robot page
Can you please explain what I did wrong.
Basically I wished to add a link to:
- The MiC Robot Project - My Hobbie Robots (maybe this is what you mean) - Seeing Machines - Information Engineering, RSISE, ANU - ASSeT, NICTA Cole31337 22:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, while there is a section to add links about "Hobby Robotics", personal pages are disallowed from being inserted into Wikipedia. I can see how the link section can be a bit misleading. If you want to add links to renowned robotics organisations, I welcome you too, as Wikipedia will be better off with your contributions! I hope this helps, and if you have any other questions or comments, don't hesitate to get in touch. (Also, just so you know you can sign your comments with four tildes ~ ) Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 21:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Can you please revert the changes I made to the Commercial Websites and Research Groups page then as these link/info is of high importance within the robotics cummunity. Seeing Machines, Research School of Information and Engnineering are very well known within robotics and are world leaders.
Regarding links to my personal page.
1) The MiC Robot web page is located within my personal page, however this is a very important project for robotics research hobbiests. Please revert this change, or explain what is the problem.
2) The link to the collection of mostly my robotic photos/videos would be of interest to many robotic hobbiests and researchers. Where should information like this go? Cole31337 22:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi again! The MiC robot web page (here) doesn't seem to be of any notability, as it is an in-development personal project, however feel free to bring it up on the talk page and see what the primary contributors to the article think about leaving the link in the article. You might want to put the link to your website on your user page. In regards to reverting your edits, I looked at your contributions and can't pinpoint what exactly you're asking me to revert. If you want, you can revert the links yourself by going to the article and removing your edits. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Are you an admin too?
If yes, then it is meaningless talking with you. If we disagree, then you are going to use force and ban my username, as usual. Karnagio 00:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! I'm sorry to hear that you're so jaded with Wikipedia. I'm not an admin, and even if I were, I wouldn't block you over a simple disagreement. If I can help your Wikipedia experience in any way, please don't hestitate to ask questions or make comments. Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 00:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I want to create a template that will warn wikipedians in case the user they are talking to is an admin. I am planning to put the template tag in every admin's page. I think it is meaningless to mess with admins. In case of disagreement statistics show that in 100% of the cases admin's POV is imposed. Maybe we should also put warning tag to any article patroled by an admin, as it is also meaningless to edit those articles. Can you help me? Karnagio 00:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think something like that would have to be an approved policy, one of which is likely not to be accepted by the community. I think you have a misguided view on what a Wikipedia adminstrator is. One or a few bad encounters shouldn't spoil your view on the thousand or so adminstrators on Wikipedia. Administrators have to follow the policies of WP:NPOV, and if you feel that a user, be it an administrator or otherwise, is violating these policies, you should bring it up with them, or failing that, seek dispute resolution. I'd like to see your statistics, and to be honest, it seems as if you have quite a non-neutral POV towards users that are administrators. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 00:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please show me the place where community approves or rejects a policy? Because I think administrators define policy, not community. Could you please show me the place where the policy that defines the existence of administrators has been approved by community? Karnagio 01:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- You can see WP:ADMIN for Wikipedia policies in regards to administrators and in regards to policy discussion, the village pump is a good place to propose new policies and discuss existing policies. You can also go to individual policy's respective talk pages and discuss potential changes there as well. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I am not asking for a place to dicsuss new policies. Policies can be discussed anywhere, even here. I asked you to point me to the place where community (rather than admins or arbitrators) DECIDES about the policies. Is it clear now? Show me the place where the policy that defines the existence of administrators has been decided and approved by community. Where is it?Karnagio 01:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I believe I understood you the first place. Obviously consensus is determined by an administrator or 'crat, but the actual discussions and determination is done by the entire community. Again, I'll point you to the links I referred you to and I'm disappointed that you've continued to antagonise administrators during the course of our discussion. I was hoping we could work it out through civil discussion. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I am not asking for a place to dicsuss new policies. Policies can be discussed anywhere, even here. I asked you to point me to the place where community (rather than admins or arbitrators) DECIDES about the policies. Is it clear now? Show me the place where the policy that defines the existence of administrators has been decided and approved by community. Where is it?Karnagio 01:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- You can see WP:ADMIN for Wikipedia policies in regards to administrators and in regards to policy discussion, the village pump is a good place to propose new policies and discuss existing policies. You can also go to individual policy's respective talk pages and discuss potential changes there as well. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please show me the place where community approves or rejects a policy? Because I think administrators define policy, not community. Could you please show me the place where the policy that defines the existence of administrators has been approved by community? Karnagio 01:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think something like that would have to be an approved policy, one of which is likely not to be accepted by the community. I think you have a misguided view on what a Wikipedia adminstrator is. One or a few bad encounters shouldn't spoil your view on the thousand or so adminstrators on Wikipedia. Administrators have to follow the policies of WP:NPOV, and if you feel that a user, be it an administrator or otherwise, is violating these policies, you should bring it up with them, or failing that, seek dispute resolution. I'd like to see your statistics, and to be honest, it seems as if you have quite a non-neutral POV towards users that are administrators. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 00:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I want to create a template that will warn wikipedians in case the user they are talking to is an admin. I am planning to put the template tag in every admin's page. I think it is meaningless to mess with admins. In case of disagreement statistics show that in 100% of the cases admin's POV is imposed. Maybe we should also put warning tag to any article patroled by an admin, as it is also meaningless to edit those articles. Can you help me? Karnagio 00:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your view in my recent RfA
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Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA! | |
To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 07:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC) |
- I'll have to pester you for more advice regarding editing, of course. I'm sad to see that the user in the conversation above feels that admins here want to PowerAnswer people. I intend to not let it get to me, and if it does, I expect to be checked! Here's hoping for a more compassionate Wikipedia... ~Kylu (u|t) 07:41, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Yanksox
Please see Requests for adminship/Yanksox. Thanks Tyrenius 13:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
RE: Wikibreak messages
Yes, I was acting in good faith, knowing that I very often forget such things. However, I will replace them. Sorry for any inconvenience it may have caused. Reagrds, —Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Good stuff. I can't imagine any inconvienence at all. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 09:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: Thanks!
Glad to be of any service. :) Lemme know if you need anything else, I almost always respond sooner or later. Luna Santin 22:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't do that again.
Don't vandalize my user page please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.244.177 (talk • contribs)
- Hi! I believe you might be mistaken. You actually haven't created a user page for your IP yet, and no one else (myself included) has either. If you're referring to the message I left on your user talk page, it wasn't vandalism; it was a caution against making more edits like these. If you wish to start making productive edits, please feel free to contact me again and I'll respond to any questions you might have as soon as I can. Good luck! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 05:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
User:Misza13's pile!
Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page. Misza13, the rouge-on-demand admin wishes you happy editing! NOTE: This message has been encrypted with the sophisticated ROT-26 algorithm. |
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moh chelali
apologies....mr chelali used to be one of my teachers, and I recently discovered his presence on wikipedia....I figured, as a joke, I would re-write what was said, in the way he used to write on the board.....with all capitals, except for the i's. I will end up changing it again I'm sure, but this time I'll be extra careful to not remove any content, as he truly is a great man, and an inspiration to us all
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lend a hand?
I messed up making a chart on the Grant Fox page I can't figure out what I did wrong. Could you look at it and correct it or pass off the job to someone else please? Outside Center 04:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)Outside Center
- It seems as if the table looks good now (no thanks to me, though!) hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent, your right the team pages are going well we're only missing the Gentlemen of Aspen from that page; apparently they won twice and were runners up once. Outside Center 14:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, the Aspen team has been a huge factor in SuperLeague rugby but they're no longer a SuperLeague team. I'll be starting an article sometime in the near future, but I'd like to make the SuperLeague team pages and the SuperLeague article itself a bit better before I start to work on some of the premier Division 1 teams. If you have information on Aspen, however, feel free to start the article yourself. I uploaded the team logo, so if you want to use that in the infobox or just as an image, feel free hoopydinkConas tá tú? 16:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know a thing about them actually. Now I'm just working on adding those little charts to the different players and filling in everything I can find for it. I'll see what I can find on them though. Outside Center 19:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, the Aspen team has been a huge factor in SuperLeague rugby but they're no longer a SuperLeague team. I'll be starting an article sometime in the near future, but I'd like to make the SuperLeague team pages and the SuperLeague article itself a bit better before I start to work on some of the premier Division 1 teams. If you have information on Aspen, however, feel free to start the article yourself. I uploaded the team logo, so if you want to use that in the infobox or just as an image, feel free hoopydinkConas tá tú? 16:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Making sense of fallingrain.com's data for Gnaa
You raised some good questions on the AfD page about the fallingrain.com data. I downloaded the NGA data file for Nigeria, pulled up their 55 "places" within 16 km of Gnaa, then looked at the fallingrain pages for 14 of them.
I put the results and comments on the AfD's talk page. --A. B. 04:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! You're to be commended for conducting some extensive research into the matter. The information you've provided enables one to put things in perspective in terms of population and density. Ultimately, however, I think the issue here is not the notability of the place, but how people feel about an article of a place is used for an internet group's purposes. This Nigerian entity ( be it a town, region, or territory, as it seems a bit unclear how to define this place) seems to be notable for the sheer fact that it exists (albeit not heavily documented yet). I think what people are bothered by is that half of the content of the article is used to mention an infamous internet group. It's reasonable to understand why a small "town" in Nigeria hasn't been well-documented yet. If one looks to Google Earth, the Nigerian detail pales in comparison to that of a major Western city (Dublin, London, New York City, take your pick). This lends to the notion that not much attention has been paid to this region in as far as cartography and such. As this is an encyclopedia, I subsribe to the idea that any town or region carries inherent notability. Having said this, your participation in this AfD has gone beyond the call of duty and your research has been quite good. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 13:35, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I could really care less about GNAA. I came to this AfD because I'm interested in Nigeria and saw the listing for the 2nd AfD. I'm still amazed that folks can't seem to make the connection that "town" ≠ "NGA place" despite the material placed on the talk page. It seems an affront to Nigeria and Nigerians that many Wikipedians will go to the mat for this place yet nothing exists on the real towns in the same state or all across Nigeria.On this one, I suppose they're really looking through the filter of "how to deal with the GNAA's manipulation of our reliability" more than "what's encyclopedic". I don't mean to sound disparaging or upset; I bring my own filter which in this case is "what does Wikipedia say about Nigeria -- I'm going there in 10 days". Towns are encyclopedic, places are not. Nobody has proven that Gnaa is a town. All we have is that fallingrain.com says that 6559 people live with 7 km of this "place". This is being repeatedly misinterpreted to mean Gnaa is a town of 6559 people -- it's not. Do the math and you'll find that implies 43 people within 500 meters of the place's coordinates. That's not what I call a "town". Assuming the average Nigerian family has 4 members, that means 10 houses. (Who gets to be mayor?). --A. B. 14:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, good stuff. I in no way meant to call your motives into question in participating in this RfA. It wasn't my intention to pigeonhole you. You've obviously shown quite the dedication into finding out what's what. However, I feel that your research indicates that the place should be included in the Wikipedia. It's obviously a geographic place (whether it be a town, region, or territory), which I think carries inherent notability. One must ask oneself "What's the harm in leaving it as is?" Sources independent of each other have documented the place's existence, and it seems like a cool challenge to flesh out the article a bit and hopefully rid it of its stub status. In any case, you've done good work mate! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I had already made a couple of changes to the actual article.--A. B. 22:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, good stuff. I in no way meant to call your motives into question in participating in this RfA. It wasn't my intention to pigeonhole you. You've obviously shown quite the dedication into finding out what's what. However, I feel that your research indicates that the place should be included in the Wikipedia. It's obviously a geographic place (whether it be a town, region, or territory), which I think carries inherent notability. One must ask oneself "What's the harm in leaving it as is?" Sources independent of each other have documented the place's existence, and it seems like a cool challenge to flesh out the article a bit and hopefully rid it of its stub status. In any case, you've done good work mate! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 22:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I could really care less about GNAA. I came to this AfD because I'm interested in Nigeria and saw the listing for the 2nd AfD. I'm still amazed that folks can't seem to make the connection that "town" ≠ "NGA place" despite the material placed on the talk page. It seems an affront to Nigeria and Nigerians that many Wikipedians will go to the mat for this place yet nothing exists on the real towns in the same state or all across Nigeria.On this one, I suppose they're really looking through the filter of "how to deal with the GNAA's manipulation of our reliability" more than "what's encyclopedic". I don't mean to sound disparaging or upset; I bring my own filter which in this case is "what does Wikipedia say about Nigeria -- I'm going there in 10 days". Towns are encyclopedic, places are not. Nobody has proven that Gnaa is a town. All we have is that fallingrain.com says that 6559 people live with 7 km of this "place". This is being repeatedly misinterpreted to mean Gnaa is a town of 6559 people -- it's not. Do the math and you'll find that implies 43 people within 500 meters of the place's coordinates. That's not what I call a "town". Assuming the average Nigerian family has 4 members, that means 10 houses. (Who gets to be mayor?). --A. B. 14:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Autobiography?
I think the first version of that article (from 2004) was autobiographical, but it's been edited many times. Is the article POV? Where? That I take an interest in the page isn't, by the way, against the rules. See citations on my user page. (But thanks for trying to tone down the weirdness on this.) Evertype 08:21, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! The article was brought to my attention via a conversation on IRC, so I've no prior experience with the subject (apparently you) of the article or the controversy surrounding it. The autobiography tag is relatively new to Wikipedia, and I thought it a good idea to specifise what the particular issue is. In as far as NPOV, I don't really see any other than that you are referred to as an expert linguist without any citation. I think it best to leave the tag up just because the article is heavily edited by its subject. I agree that editing an article about oneself is not at all against the rules and I encourage you to be bold!. Sláinte! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 16:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Tri Nations
Hi Hoopdink, the official discussion regarding the Tri Nations moved is here, since you though it was a good idea at the Wikiproject, maybe you would like to vote. Good work on creating the Superleague clubs as well. Cheers. Cvene64 05:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks mate! I'll definitely weigh in on the discussion! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding Bavaria
At your request, I have restored the removed material to the Bavaria article. I still, however, do not believe that a bunch of pictures distinctly labeled as "sights" belong in a Wikipedia article but you have a tremendous amount of seniority over me and are an administrator, so you're probably right. I do not agree with you that my comments were harsh in any way; I make it a point to adhere to WP:CIVILITY at all times. If you would please explain what I could have done better, I'd be very grateful. I thought I was assuming good faith by not using a warning and by acting as friendly as I could. I must add that I do feel a bit confused that I am being told that my comments are "harsh" when I was called two names on my user talk page by the anonymous user in question, whose insults were ignored. Srose (talk) 18:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, I'd be happy to elaborate. My only issue was that the Bavaria edits were the user's first and only two edits. As such, being reverted without any real explanation other than his work being called unwanted due to its potentially touristy nature is discouraging. I'm aware that the message you left was probably a template or widely-used message, but sometimes a more human touch is needed. If you thought the edits inappropriate, I feel that a better explanation was necessary. The edits probably took a significant amount of time in terms of formatting and collecting the information. In addition, the edits could've been viewed with the benefit of the doubt as adding culture, history, and color to the article (rather than tourism information). Also, if you thought the pictures a bit much, you could've pointed the user to the Commons so others could enjoy his work. I've been quick to revert anonymous IP's before, as I'm sure most Wikipedians have at one time or another, so it's an easy "mistake" to make (if that's the label we're using). The mistake, however, could be potentially damaging to the new user and perhaps discourage him/her from editing again. The frustration of the new user is understandable but his insult to you on your talk page was not (which was what led me to look at his edits in the first place). "Harsh" was probably bad diction on my part, and I apologise. My intention was to convey that his edits were a bit overlooked or not treated the same as an edit by an established editor perhaps. To put it in perspective, would you have reverted the edits if Yanksox, Crzrussian, or another established editor made them? Again, being quick on the draw, so to speak is something everyone has done (myself included). The only reason I mentioned the incident to you is that it could've lost us an editor. Also, to clear things up, I'm not an administrator and seniority isn't really that big a deal, which is kind of the point I was trying to make. Each edit should be taken at face value, regardless of whether it is made by an administrator, a registered user, or an unregistered user using an IP. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 02:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Before I say anything else, let me say that I find it extremely offensive that you apparently do not think this is a mistake I made in good faith. (See your comment: "so it's an easy "mistake" to make".)
- To continue, I must disagree with the majority of your comments. First of all, the message I left was not a template. I never use templates (other than welcome templates, which I personalize) unless I absolutely must or they fit the situation to a letter. I feel they're impersonal, kind of like an answering machine, so I only use them in cases of obvious vandalism. Second of all, yes, I may have reverted such edits by an established user. They are beautiful pictures, but they do not add encyclopedic material to the article. They are only labeled as what they are, with no explanation. I am not very familiar with the Commons because as my computer has a low bandwith and little memory, I cannot view more than perhaps a dozen pictures per page. I also must assure you that I do not jump the gun on anonymous edits. If you were to look at my contributions, you'd see that most of my edits are not vandal fighting at all, but wikification, copyediting, and XfD discussions. My computer just is not fast enough for vandal fighting, with so many talented vandal fighters (and their more capable computers, although fortunately I'll have a new computer and Firefox by the end of August).
- I take pride in never biting the newcomers. That is why I rarely use a warning template; I personalize my messages and assume the very best intentions. About two months ago when I was a newcomer, I certainly felt bitten by a certain editor, and so make a point of being extremely kind. I also try to take notice of others' hard work by leaving messages on their talk pages, because it seems to me that it is very difficult to be noticed on Wikipedia unless you are in a certain clique or do something wrong. Srose (talk) 15:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi there! I apologise if you thought I assumed that you were not acting in good faith. I thought I made that apparent in that I mentioned that it's a very common thing to do (something I've done in the past). I guess we have different views on the whole thing (mine is apparently wrong); first, I thought you were just a bit quick to jump the gun as your message, as the pictures were very hard work and there was no explanation of reverting (except for dismissing the edits as a travel guide while citing WP:NOT on user's talk page), you used javascripts (where slipping is easy to do as reverting is quick and easy), the edit was a user's first, you mentioned that some of the pictures should indeed be kept on the Bavaria talk page, the editor hasn't edited since with that IP, etcetera, etcetera. As far as I can surmise, you feel that it was simply a straight-up case of a content issue. This is fine and I apologise for assuming otherwise. This being the case, any large removal of content is usually discussed on the talk page and travel guide information seems to be an inappropriate label (to me, at least). I was unaware that you were unfamiliar with the Commons and I apologise for assuming that (again!). For future reference, it's nice to point the user in that direction if you feel a picture or gallery is not needed. I apologise once more that you're a bit jaded with Wikipedia and feel that there's a cliquey nature. I agree that a lot of good work goes unnoticed, however, and we should all probably take some time out to recognise all the good works and the many hours of Wikipedians valuable time that are being volunteered by some great people (you're one of them, of course!) To be clear, my only intention to ensure that the IP editor did not leave Wikipedia because of the encounter (he apparently has left, which is too bad). It was never my intention nor my will to chastise you or somehow point out what I believed to be an error on your part; it was simply an issue of the new user. For what it's worth, I think you're a talented editor and if you think that you were bitten by me two months ago, I'll refer you to Yanksox, Crzrussian, or any other user you think has a handle on policy and they'll explain that there was no biting going on ;) I do hope that there is no animosity between us and I have a lot of respect for some of your favourite Wikipedians, so I hope that we too, could form a Wiki-relationship, as well! Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- I certainly concede your point that perhaps it was wrong of me to use JS. I am sorry that the user has apparently left, but I am not convinced that it was because of me. Many users edit once or twice and then leave. In any case, I'm planning on leaving a message on the user's page to apologize. As far as your biting goes...I still believe the userpage policy is a little vague, and when there are people with 20-odd subpages, I don't see what a small sub-talk page is going to hurt. For the record, Yanksox is my (very) long-time (real life) boyfriend and we've talked about it several times. Without disclosing it, I believe I know his opinion on the matter quite well. In any case, I have dropped the issue, but I would like to make the point that while you accuse me of scaring off a newcomer (by applying a policy), you have done the same thing with a different result: I remained at Wikipedia, largely because I'm not easily discouraged.
- All that aside, I would value your Wikifriendship very much as I consider you an experienced, knowledgeable, reasonable and intelligent person. In short, I apologize if you think my motives were less than honorable. I would appreciate your friendship greatly and hope that I can secure it. Srose (talk) 15:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hey again! Sure, I never meant to pigeonhole you and say that your actions were directly what caused the user to leave. You're right about users sometimes making a few edits and leaving and of course ultimately one is in complete control of one's actions (especially so on a web site). To make things clear, I felt that the WP:NOT policy you used to explain the revert didn't apply in the IP user's case (which is fine on on both our parts, as consensus is usually used to determine if policy applies and we were the only two debating it so of course there could be no consensus). In regards to the old user page, this is the policy and bulletpoints 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 8 applied (rather specifically so). Feel free to ask an administrator who can view the deleted page for another opinion if you want. If you still feel that Wikipedia policy permits the page, definitely feel free to recreate it if you want (I won't say or do anything and I will probably never notice it). Again, I assure you there was no biting on my part; feel free to check out the e-mail exchange between your boyfriend and I if he's willing and if he still has it in his box (that is, you won't be invading my privacy or anything like that). I think you'll see that my intentions were of a good sort and actually had nothing to do with you as a person. The issue was with a concern I had and what I thought was an obvious policy issue (there was a reason I asked you privately on your talk page rather than just throwing it up for MfD, ya know!). With that, I hope all of our previous issues are in the past and are really no big deal (that's how I feel). I truly appreciate your comments and willingness to be friends. It means a lot! To use an oft-said phrase of mine, cheers mate!
- Hi there! I apologise if you thought I assumed that you were not acting in good faith. I thought I made that apparent in that I mentioned that it's a very common thing to do (something I've done in the past). I guess we have different views on the whole thing (mine is apparently wrong); first, I thought you were just a bit quick to jump the gun as your message, as the pictures were very hard work and there was no explanation of reverting (except for dismissing the edits as a travel guide while citing WP:NOT on user's talk page), you used javascripts (where slipping is easy to do as reverting is quick and easy), the edit was a user's first, you mentioned that some of the pictures should indeed be kept on the Bavaria talk page, the editor hasn't edited since with that IP, etcetera, etcetera. As far as I can surmise, you feel that it was simply a straight-up case of a content issue. This is fine and I apologise for assuming otherwise. This being the case, any large removal of content is usually discussed on the talk page and travel guide information seems to be an inappropriate label (to me, at least). I was unaware that you were unfamiliar with the Commons and I apologise for assuming that (again!). For future reference, it's nice to point the user in that direction if you feel a picture or gallery is not needed. I apologise once more that you're a bit jaded with Wikipedia and feel that there's a cliquey nature. I agree that a lot of good work goes unnoticed, however, and we should all probably take some time out to recognise all the good works and the many hours of Wikipedians valuable time that are being volunteered by some great people (you're one of them, of course!) To be clear, my only intention to ensure that the IP editor did not leave Wikipedia because of the encounter (he apparently has left, which is too bad). It was never my intention nor my will to chastise you or somehow point out what I believed to be an error on your part; it was simply an issue of the new user. For what it's worth, I think you're a talented editor and if you think that you were bitten by me two months ago, I'll refer you to Yanksox, Crzrussian, or any other user you think has a handle on policy and they'll explain that there was no biting going on ;) I do hope that there is no animosity between us and I have a lot of respect for some of your favourite Wikipedians, so I hope that we too, could form a Wiki-relationship, as well! Cheers! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 01:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Srose (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!
- I decided that we shouldn't indent any further; we'll soon be writing in a column! :P Anyway, I reviewed the conversation quite some time ago, and I agree with some points, but disagree on some others. The policy simply isn't upheld on a whole and to be honest, I'm not sure I agree with it - there should be a limit on the number of subpages one should be able to have, although even that isn't quite fair, because some users simply have extremely lengthy userpages. Additionally, (I hope this isn't offensive!) I certainly know Yanksox better than anyone here (25 months will do that to you) and have discussed the matter with him at further length than anyone else. Anyway, as I say, I have dropped the matter entirely for several reasons (among them that visits have recently become more frequent than once weekly and that I must admit that I hope to one day be an admin myself) and merely brought it up to make an example.
- On an unrelated matter, if I may ask, what precisely is a "wiseacre"? I know what the anonymous user's second "w" word means, but I thought wiseacre was made up.
- I do hope that we can put all of this behind us, because you certainly seem like the type of friend I'd be honored to have. Srose (talk) 16:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, definitely a good call on the indent! :) Also, thank you so much for the smile (it's my first Wiki-smile)! I still feel that I was correct discussing that policy with you, but I completely respect and admire your relationship, so it goes without saying that whatever you two have discussed and decided upon is both private and cool with me with whatever you want to do. In as far as your discussions go, I hope you understand what my intentions were. I understand you bringing up the example and respect your differing opinion, as it was well thought out and presented with class. I'm glad this is all behind us and we can continue to help make Wikipedia a better place and become friends. Um, about the wiseacre thing, it wasn't my header, so I can't say for sure, however as far as I know it's a phrase that old people throw about when referring to the younger set. It's actually rather funny as it's such a dated phrase. Hrm, anyways, just a website, do what you want, cool with me, glad we're friends, good stuff! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 17:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
section breaks
PLEASE do not remove the section breaks from Phaedriel's RFA, as they are there for a reason. thanks. I tire of adding them back in. ++Lar: t/c 05:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- Check out how it looks at WP:RfA. It looks a bit off hoopydinkConas tá tú? 05:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Bentus AFD
Why did you go and state how many edits certain users had on the article, it doesnt make any difference and if anyone wanted to know they could just check.--Awesome Username 10:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's relevant to the discussion in the sense that IP's rarely weigh in on AfD's, as IP's are usually new users and as such, haven't got around to the inner workings of Wikipedia. As there is sometimes sockpuppetry on AfD's (in order to sway discussion one way or the other), I felt it interesting to note that almost 20% of the user's time on Wikipedia had been devoted to one AfD. hoopydinkConas tá tú? 12:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
For your help on the RfA reformats
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The Working Man's Barnstar
Thanks a lot for the editing efforts, and for the thoughtful and collegial (even when I wasn't, 100%) discussion with me in IRC, and for your insightful commentary on the RfA talk page. I look forward to working with you further in future! ++Lar: t/c 11:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
My RfA
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Happy editing! --Firsfron of Ronchester 23:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks from Yanksox
Hey Hoopy, thanks for supporting my RfA, which registered a tally of 104/4/7. Which means...
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Highway's RfA
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Thank you for contributing to my my request for adminship. Although I wasn't promoted to admin status, with a withdrawn vote count of 14/27/14, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was pleasantly suprised at the support, and was touched by it. I will also work harder on preventing disputes and keeping cool under stress. Hopefully I will re-apply soon and try again for the mop. Thanks again, Highway Return to Oz... 13:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --Chris (talk) 18:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Chris! Thanks for giving me permission to use your program. Unfortunately for me, I use Windows and am unable to try out VandalSniper just yet. I am eagerly awaiting the Windows release so be sure to let me know! Thanks again! hoopydinkConas tá tú? 16:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
oops
sorry for the nuisance. don't bother replying me. --154.20.102.96 04:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Wickethewok's RFA
Thanks for your support on my RFA. The final vote count was (61/9/3), so I am now an administrator. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. I plan on starting in on the copyright backlog stuff once I get my bearings. Once again, thank you. Wickethewok 15:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |
GangstaEB's RFA
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Thanks for your oppose on my RFA. The final vote count was (0/10/0), so I am now an normal user. Feel free to let me know how I'm doing at any point in time or if you need anything. I can't give it though. Once again, thank you. GangstaEB help me improve! 23:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC) I did steal this off Wickethewok's RFA thank-you too. |