Talk:Greece

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20th Century Update

this statement is misleading " a region with a large native Greek population at the time..." the time is not definite. After the 1919 Smyrna occupation there was a population transport to Smyrna from Greece affecting the demographics. For pre 1919 situation See. For more information see --Prusan (talk) 14:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Turks of Western Thrace

General Distribution of Population in Western Thrace (1912-1920)
Census/Estimate	Muslims	Pomaks	Bulgarians	Greeks	Others	Total
1912 estimate	120,000	-	40,000	60,000	4,000	224,000
1919 Bulgarian	79,539	17,369	87,941	28,647	10,922	224,418
1919 Bulgarian	77,726	20,309	81,457	32,553	8,435	220,480
1920 French	74,730	11,848	54,092	56,114	7,906	204,690
1920 Greek	93,273	-	25,677	74,416	6,038	201,404

During Ottoman rule before 1912, Greeks constituted a minority in the region of Western Thrace. After the Balkan Wars and World War I the demography of the region was changed. While groups such as the Turks and Bulgarians decreased, the Greek population increased by the resettlement of ten thousands of Greek refugees from other areas of the Ottoman Empire, after the flight of the Greek refugees from Asia Minor, as a result of the Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) and the subsequent population exchange between Greece and Turkey. Of all Greek Asia Minor refugees (578,824 individuals), 31% of them were resettled in Western Thrace. The Greek government's reason to settle the refugees in this region was to strengthen the Greek presence in the newly acquired provinces and the homogenization of the population. The Greek government especially resettled the refugees in Komotini, Xanthi and Sapes regions where the majority of Muslim Turks lived.

General Distribution of Population in Western Thrace in 1923, presented by the Greek delegation in Laussane (after the relocation of Asia Minor refugees)
Districts	Total	Total Greeks	Local Greeks	Relocated Greek refugees	Turks	Bulgarians	Jews	Armenians
Komotini	104,108	45,516	11,386	33,770	50,081	6,609	1,112	1,183
Alexandroupolis	38,553	26,856	9,228	17,518	2,705	9,102	-
Soufli	32,299	25,758	11,517	14,211	5,454	1,117	-	-
Xanthi	64,744	36,859	18,249	18,613	27,882	-	-
Didymoteicho	34,621	31,408	21,759	9,649	3,213	-	-	-
Orestiada	39,386	33,764	22,087	11,677	6,072	-	-	-
Total	314,235	199,664 (63,5%)	94,226 (30,0%)	105,438 (33,6%)	95,407 (30,4%)	16,828 (5,4%)	1,112 (0,4%)	1,183 (0,4%)

Guy Verhofstadt

I think a sub section in Economy section about Mr.Guy Verhofstadt's speech could be written. --Prusan (talk) 06:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Why? I mean, Personally I agree with (most of) what he said and this is pretty much the same stuff I'd like to tell Tsipras to his face, but a political speech is by definition not a WP:RS. What he said about privileges of certain groups in Greece etc. can be sourced to more reliable sources. Constantine ✍ 09:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Oppose the proposal. Not notable of a speech as it is nothing more than a WP:NEWSEVENT. Étienne Dolet (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

I think it is important as the fact that it is the first time a prime misinter of an EU country got accused, attacked so directly and strongly. It is noteworthy --Prusan (talk) 13:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

"first time a prime misinter of an EU country got accused, attacked so directly and strongly" is pure nonsense. I know of no politician who has not been "directly and strongly attacked by somebody", usually with good reason. And if it reflects poorly on Tsipras and his government and would be perhaps suitable for inclusion there, that is still not a reason to see this as characteristic of Greece as a whole. This is not only pure WP:Recentism, it is downright unscientific and biased to take an attack on a specific person/party (which as a political statement and piece of rhetoric is inherently non-neutral either way) and try to apply it to the whole country. Constantine ✍ 14:02, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes it is not scientific but it is still important and yes it is more suitable for the article Tsipras not Greece.--Prusan (talk) 14:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Update in Economy Section

I strongly recommend an update for Greece Economy --Prusan (talk) 13:31, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

ps.the politics and introduction sections will need an overhaul as there will be questions about the soverenigty of Greece in recent circumstances

Food Shortage

...Food companies warned that the country will start to run out of beef and other imported meats within days and could face serious food shortages by the end of the month unless the banking system is reopened, and firms can pay foreign suppliers once again. Source. Greece article will need an overhaul especially on "high living standarts". --Prusan (talk) 13:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I think you are a little bit mixed up: First of all there is no food shortage in Greece, never was, never will (at least by todays standards). Now, indeed Greece even in the current economic crisis, is among the 30 top countries in the world in almost every indicator, whether that is GDP per capita, HDI, life expectancy, infant mortality, literacy rate. All these indicators are the prime reason whether a country has a high standard of living or not. When a country like Greece can still offer to its citizens a life expectancy of over 80 years (among the highest in the world), when it can offer an infant mortality rate of less than 3 deaths per 1000 births, when it can offer the 29th highest HDI and a per capita income of 27,000 USD, well i would say this is pretty much high standard of living. 178.128.236.166 (talk) 17:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Yet, 60% of the population is in poverty or on its way to it. Califate123 (talk) 20:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Yet, thats your own number out of your own head. The 60% of poverty levels you mention are not valid not even in Ethiopia or Chad, let alone a developed EU country...178.128.236.166 (talk) 09:30, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-30/recovery-60-greeks-live-or-below-poverty-levels; http://www.enetenglish.gr/?i=news.en.article&id=2040Califate123! (talk) 16:16, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I 'd like to change the number of inhabited islands from 227 to 127 Kampanario (talk) 16:07, 18 July 2015 (UTC)