Jump to content

Talk:Guy Scott: Difference between revisions

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
No edit summary
Line 26: Line 26:


:::::Now if we were discussing the Berber and specifically [[Riffian people]] of North Africa, that's an entirely separate matter - but no members of that particular group have become a head of state since 1994. --[[User:Katangais|Katangais]] ([[User talk:Katangais|talk]]) 21:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
:::::Now if we were discussing the Berber and specifically [[Riffian people]] of North Africa, that's an entirely separate matter - but no members of that particular group have become a head of state since 1994. --[[User:Katangais|Katangais]] ([[User talk:Katangais|talk]]) 21:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

"White" is as much a political as a biological category - though its hard to see Algerian president Bouteflika as anything other than "Caucasoid." [[Special:Contributions/66.68.207.59|66.68.207.59]] ([[User talk:66.68.207.59|talk]])


==References==
==References==

Revision as of 09:30, 10 August 2015

WikiProject iconBiography Start‑class
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
StartThis article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
WikiProject iconAfrica: Zambia Start‑class Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Africa, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Africa on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
StartThis article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Zambia.

Education Please add the following paragraph under the mentioned categories

Full name: Guy Lindsey Scott

Education: He completed Phd in Artificial Intelligence and was awarded the doctorate degree in 1986. Scott's research title was [Local and global interpretation of moving images] [1] ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecoman24 (talkcontribs) 23:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

working link [1] Justinc (talk) 13:58, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thought they were kidding -> racism?

This edit links 'thought they were kidding' to 'racism'. It has been removed and restored before, but I've removed it again. It's a weasel link, as one cannot expect the two terms to relate. If there are reliable sources claiming racism, cite them directly and in context, not in this dubious roundabout way. Greenman (talk) 20:09, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First White African President since 94? Don't think so..

The president of Morocco, Egypt, Algeria are definitely not black. Why is he being referred to as the first? Or are we saying Northern Africa is no longer part of Africa? MyUsernameHasAlreadyBeenUsed (talk) 23:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Arabs aren't black, but they aren't white either. They are people of color, if you excuse me using an American-only term. Stamboliyski (talk) 13:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Arabs are white. They have traditionally regarded themselves as White. If Italians (particularly Southern Italians) and Greeks are White, then so are Arabs. Or do you define White as only "Anglo-Saxons"?Royalcourtier (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How about Paul Bérenger of Mauritius? France-Albert René of Seychelles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.250.175.26 (talk) 20:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The description of Scott as "the first white African head of state since South Africa's F. W. de Klerk in 1994 and the first white head of state in a democratic African state." is clearly wrong. As others have noted, Morocco (king, not President), Egypt, Algeria, Seychelles, etc are all White, not Black. There is a peculiar view amongst some these days that White means Anglo-Saxon, it does not. Traditionally Arabs regarded themselves as White.Royalcourtier (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
White does obviously not mean Anglo-Saxon, but it does mean of European descent and it is not relevant in an English text how the term is used in Arabic or how Arabs self identify. Paul Berenger was Prime Minister, not President.--Batmacumba (talk) 18:04, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like a source on that claim that the majority of Arab peoples self-identify as white. In Africa, they have traditionally been regarded as neither white nor black, by both the colonial governments and successive post-independence regimes. Where Arabs were a minority, the European powers usually grouped them with those of mixed race, ie Cape Coloureds. For example, under apartheid in South Africa most Arabs of South African nationality were classified as Coloured for all intents and purposes. In East Africa, where Arabs remained an important minority, "half-caste" status was offered to those of mixed Arab and European parentage but they were clearly not regarded as "white" and offered the associated privileges thereof.
Now if we were discussing the Berber and specifically Riffian people of North Africa, that's an entirely separate matter - but no members of that particular group have become a head of state since 1994. --Katangais (talk) 21:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"White" is as much a political as a biological category - though its hard to see Algerian president Bouteflika as anything other than "Caucasoid." 66.68.207.59 (talk)

References