User talk:RovingPersonalityConstruct

I have reported you for several admins for edit warring and removing sourced contents !

Since talking to you is of no use, I have decided to take this to the admins. You have no rights to determine if a source is reliable or not !!

Be gone ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B8BF:C0:A40B:3EC8:EBC1:5351 (talk) 01:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

STOP YOUR Revert War !!!

I am here to start a Revert WAR with you if that is what you want !! Stop removing sourced content and adding your own god damn opinion. You can add materials but STOP removing sourced content. I have already reported you to admins and any more of your revert will be considered edit war and you will be BANNED from wikepedia for good !!.

BTW, NO ONE Cares about your own damn personal opinions !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B8BF:C0:A40B:3EC8:EBC1:5351 (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Simply adding sourced information is inadequate. Information must come from reliable sources. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the relevant Wikipedia policies on sourcing. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 21:40, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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You call your source reliable source and other people's unreliable ?? PROVE IT FIRST !!!

The sources I have are all Chinese sources from official Chinese news media and backed up with latest pictures !!

Your source is a single source coming and is an American source !! Which is more accurate and reliable regarding Chinese military hardware?

NOW STOP YOUR GOD DAMN Editing warring !!

As I said, you can add materials but stop removing sourced content. NOBODY cares about your worthless opinions !!

If you want to contribute positively to Chinese military sections you are welcome to do so but first respect other contributors.

Your sources are blogs written by non-experts, which explicitly goes against WP:BLOGS. In addition, bare images are not reliable sources. An image needs to be interpreted by an expert to be usable. Using a bare image as a source violates WP:ORIGINAL, since the wiki editor will be the one doing the interpreting.

Again, familiarize yourself with the relevant Wikipedia guidelines. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 21:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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RovingPersonalityConstruct, I have just added official Chinese sources backing up with pictures for the JL-2, 093, and J-20 articles. Now please stop removing sourced content. You can add materials and trim the articles but please stop removing sourced content, as you can see now. The sources are all official Chinese news agencies and backed up with pictures. One of them even used US Department of Defense.

Thank you.

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RovingPersonalityConstruct, now with many relaiable Chinese and western sources added. I hope that you stop this. Thank you.

I do not mean to offend you but just to keep it straight.

Peace out.

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BTW, the source you provided for the 093 article is actually a Wikipedia page which goes against the rules of using source. You can not use a Wikipedia page. Also, the wiki page you used as source direct to the US Department of Defense page and it DOES NOT have anything related to the 093 at ALL !!!

Anyway, just to point out. Here is your so called "reliable source" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense

Thank you and have a nice day.

Peace out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:B8BF:C0:A40B:3EC8:EBC1:5351 (talk) 22:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Refs that looks like <ref>[[United States Department of Defense]] (2014: 8)</ref> refer to items in the Bibliography section, and are perfectly valid. That particular ref refers to the Annual Report To Congress: Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2014, which was properly listed in the Bibliography section.

Looking through the refs you've added:

http://mil.sohu.com/20140916/n404363632.shtml seems useful for technical specs. I will add that when I revise my version of the article. http://www.guancha.cn/Science/2013_04_02_135879.shtml is no good; it says the figure of five Type 093s in service comes from foreign (non-Chinese) sources. Since it doesn't say who those sources are, the US DoD figure is still a better choice. Both articles also don't seem to say anything about units planned, etc..

tiananmenstremendousachievement.blogspot.com and http://aviationintel.com/ fall under WP:BLOGS; don't use them. The http://theaviationist.com/ article is inappropriately used; it does not actually say what the wiki article is claiming. The Liveleak video does not have expert commentary, so is not a reliable source. The wantchinatimes.com article, written by a "staff reporter" is apparently just regurgitating stuff from another site, so it doesn't seem useful. http://news.ifeng.com/ may have some value.

On the whole, your sources are haphazardly included. Your sources certainly do not justify using the old version of the Type 093 article. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 22:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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You still have the gut to say that your source is reliable?? It is another Wikipedia page for United States Department of Defense ! I will KEEP FIGHTING YOU UNTIL THE END. Bring it ON !

http://www.guancha.cn/Science/2013_04_02_135879.shtml is a Chinese source and hence more reliable than your source!

As I pointed out in my previous response, the reference you object to refers to an item in the Bibliography section. This form of referencing is used elsewhere on Wikipedia. Familiarize yourself with these practices. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 01:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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hope this helps explain. you can see for me to show you all the pictures with the serial number on tail planes, and then all the google earth location, then the forums which some are quite reliable when cross referencing, adding to scramble to verify the location, and if it exists, then from google earth number of hangers, then you add cctv footage from them taking off from base. it is more reliable then most if not all western sources. cause many times in whatever publication I can find so many errors. such as 2011 article from military anaylsis saying china had nothing simular to the arleigh burke destroyer, which is false cause PLAN has Type 052C, then he said that PLAN has no AESA in service, but the KJ-2000 & KJ-200 are using AESA. I tend to ignore analysis that view in a negative way, and ignoring physical proof.

counting and compiling JH-7A tail numbers there are well over 70 as claimed in the referenced.

below is a pretty good compilation i found online.

Shenyang

1st Division, 1st Regiment, J-11B & Su-27UBK (24 Aircrafts) 30th Division, 89th Regiment, J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 1st Division, 2nd Regiment, J-10A/S (28 Aircrafts) 11th Division, 31st Regiment, JH-7A (24 Aircrafts) 1st Division, 3rd Regiment, J-8F (24 Aircrafts) 30th Division, 90th Regiment, J-7D & J-8E (24 Aircrafts) 20th Division, 58th Regiment, Q-5 (24 Aircrafts) 21st Division, 63rd Regiment, J-7 (28 Aircrafts) 30th Division, 88th Regiment. J-7 (28 Aircrafts) 21st Division, 62nd Regiment, J-8F/H (24 Aircrafts) 11th Division, 33rd Regiment, Q-5D (24 Aircrafts) 21st Division, 61st Regiment, J-7E (24 Aircrafts)

Beijing

24th Division, 72nd Regiment, J-10A/S (28 Aircrafts) 7th Division, 19th Regiment, Su-27SK/UBK & J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 15th Division, 43rd Regiment, J-7C/D (28 Aircrafts) 15th Divison, 45th Regiment, Q-5/J (24 Aircrafts) 7th Division, 20th Regiment, J-7G (28 Aircrafts) 24th Division, 70th Regiment, J-8E (24 Aircrafts)

Jinan

19th Division, 55th Regiment, Su-27SK/UBK & J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 5th Division, 14th Regiment, JH-7A (24 Su-27SK/UBK & J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 19th Division, 56th Regiment, J-11/BS (24 Aircrafts) 12th Division, 36th Regiment, J-7II (28 Aircrafts) 5th Division, 13th Regiment, Q-5 (24 Aircrafts) 31st Division, 91st Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts) 12th Division, 34th Regiment, J-7G (28 Aircrafts) 12th Division, 35th Regiment, J-8B (24 Aircrafts)

Guangzhou

18th Division, 54th Regiment, Su-30MKK (19 Aircrafts) 2nd Division, 5th Regiment, J-10A/S (28 Aircrafts) 9th Division, 26th Regiment, J-10A/S (28 Aircrafts) 2nd Division, 6th Regiment, Su-27 & J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 42nd Division. 124th Regiment, J-7H (28 Aircrafts) 18th Division, 52nd Regiment, J-7II(28 Aircrafts) 9th Division, 27th Regiment, J-8D (24 Aircrafts) 2nd Division, 4th Regiment, J-7II(28 Aircrafts) 42nd Division, 125th Regiment, J-7H (28 Aircrafts) 35th Division, 103rd Regiment, J-7II (28 Aircrafts) 9th Division, 25th Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts)

Nanjing

3rd Division, 8th Regiment, J-10A/S (28 Aircrafts) 28th Division, 83rd Regiment, JH-7A & Q-5 (24 Aircrafts) 14th Division, 40th Regiment, J-11 & Su-27UBK (24 Aircrafts) 29th Division, 85th Regiment, Su-30MKK (19 Aircrafts) 29th Division, 86th Regiment, J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 3rd Division, 9th Regiment, Su-30MKK (19 Aircrafts) 28th Division, 82nd Regiment, Q-5D/E/J (24 Aircrafts) 28th Division, 84th Regiment, Q-5 (24 Aircrafts) 14th Division, 41st Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts) 3rd Division, 7th Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts) 14th Division, 42nd Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts) 29th Division, 87th Regiment, J-8H (24 Aircrafts)

Chengdu

33rd Division, 98th Regiment, Su-27SK/UBK & J-11 (24 Aircrafts) 44th Division, 131st Regiment, J-10A/S (24 Aircrafts) 33rd Division, 97th Regiment, J-7II (28 Aircrafts) 44th Division, 130th Regiment, J-7H (28 Aircrafts) 37th Division, 109th Regiment, J-8F (24 Aircrafts) 37th Division, 111st Regiment, J-7G & J-11BS (24 Aircrafts) 6th Division, 17th Regiment, J-11B/BS (24 Aircrafts) 37th Division, 110th Regiment, J-7E (28 Aircrafts)

FTTC

Su-30MKK (19 Aircrafts) J-10 (14 Aircrafts)

North Sea Fleet

7th Division, 20th Regiment, JH-7A (24 Aircrafts) 5th Division, 14th Regiment, JH-7A (24 Aircrafts)

East Sea Fleet

4th Division, 12th Regiment, J-10AH/SH, (28 Aircrafts) 4th Division, 10th Regiment, Su-30MK2, (24 Aircrafts) 6th Division, 16th Regiment, JH-7, (24 Aircrafts) 6th Division, 17th Regiment, JH-7, (24 Aircrafts)

South Sea Fleet

8th Division, 22nd Regiment, J-11BH, (24 Aircrafts) 9th Division, 27th Regiment, JH-7A (24 Aircrafts)

JH-7 Quantity: 194 (5 PLANAF Regiments, 3 PLAAF Regiments)

J-10 Quantity: 210 (1 PLANAF Regiments, 6 PLAAF Regiments, 14 Aircrafts at FTTC)

J-11 & Su-27 Quantity: 312 (1 PLANAF Regiments, 12 PLAAF Regiments)

Su-30 Quantity: 100 (1 PLANAF Regiments, 3 PLAAF Regiments, 19 Aircrafts at FTTC)

J-8 Quantity: 216 (2 PLANAF Regiments, 7 PLAAF Regiments)

J-7 Quantity: 616 (1 PLANAF Regiments, 21 PLAAF Regiments)

Q-5 Quantity: 144 (6 PLAAF Regiments) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neutralstance (talk • contribs) 16:54, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Richelieu class battleship

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Thanks for the assist at Battle of Fort Pulaski. The overall presentation is remarkably cleaner looking. Following your general guidelines, (a) 'small' and (b) 'center' coding is removed from captions, except for my hold out on portraits. (c) Captions are limited to two lines on my browser to limit gallery 'push down'. (d) Two pics in a four-frame gallery are deleted to limit 'push down' into text. (e) Caption wording now eliminates apostrophes and abbreviations, I think.

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Sockpuppetry by Tamlinwah and Shulinjiang

No administrator has addressed the SPI I made. Do you know what to do in a case like this? I'm hoping there's a better way than just messaging admins after admins on their talk pages. Also, I'm planning to launch another SPI here because of a user named Peter O'Conner. Judging by the behaviour, it's definitely Tamlinwah and his other sock puppet was banned indefinitely. Khazar (talk) 05:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Nothing I've tried has produced a long-term effect. The only way to stop the editor is to get the pages protected, otherwise the editor just makes the same edits over and over again. I haven't tried

I'm waiting a bit until filing another WP:ANI, since it would probably not do for me to file another so soon (you found my first one), but I'm confident another favourable - if temporary - resolution can be had on the grounds of continued Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. From the first ANI, I can show I tried using other WP content-dispute resolution measures (which failed due to lack of interest), and that the editor makes more use of talk pages now but avoids addressing other editor's points.

But I suspect with two hefty ANIs worth of evidence it will be easier to go to WP:RFPP and have immediately-affected pages semi-protected, which may be the best we can do until the SPI is looked into.

I also suspect that User:Peter O'Conner and User:Tamlinwah are the same editor. I was actually thinking of filing an ANI for Peter O'Conner (still constantly adding unsourced and/or poorly sourced info), but an SPI would make making an ANI case easier. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 00:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, somebody requested administrative action to the SPI so the resolution might arrive within a week or so. Unfortunately, it might just be a bunch of blocks rather than permenant page protections from IP addresses. As for Peter O'Conner, I will launch an SPI soon and inform you when it's made. Feel free to add any more evidence that I might overlook when making it. Khazar (talk) 23:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

New IP address on the Type 99 tank

There's a new IP address on the Type 99 tank article and he appears to be adding what looks like biased and possibly unreliable sources to the article to back up content he/she has added. Is it possible to give your inquiries about it? Khazar (talk) 18:52, 2 September 2015 (UTC)