Talk:Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali

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Keep - He is an extremily well known Islamic scholar and translator of the most popular English translation of the Noble Qur'an (Hilali-Khan), along with Muhammad Muhsin Khan. AWT (talk) 21:02, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I too can attest to that - amongst Muslims, Dr. Hilali is very well known. I think the trick here will be finding English language material on him, but I believe this can be done with time. I think this has the potential to be a great article. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

A few years later and I'm just now getting to this. Hopefully, this article will be beneficial and informative for the reader soon - in it's current state, it's an uncited mess. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:01, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Almost another year again, and I have actually found quite a bit of good stuff. Most of it is in English, some in Arabic. Per WP:NONENG, I ought to put some of this stuff in a footnote. I am fluent in Arabic and can do so, but I'm not too sure how to make footnotes - some assistance would be appreciated. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:23, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

For MezzoMezzo

MezzoMezzo keeps adding back unsourced and badly sourced data into this article. I made the following legitimate edits:

Edit 1 I got rid of this: Hilali was born in Rissani, Morocco, near the oasis of Tafilalt in a valley near Sajalmasah. His birth year according to the Islamic calendar was 1311

because it was sourced from this: http://www.dar-us-salam.com/authors/taqi-ud-din-hilali.htm

How the heck is this even remotely reliable.

Edit 2 I got rid of this: coressponding to 1893 on the Gregorian calendar

because it was sourced from: http://www.alhiwar.org/en/content/view/19/2/.

This link doesn't even work.

Edit 3 I got rid of this: Hilali memorized the Qur'an by heart when he was twelve years old, making him a Hafiz. When he first delved into Islamic studies, Hilali was a Sufi of the Tijaniyyah Order. After his religious studies, Hilali took the view that Sufism in general and the Tijani order in particular were far from orthodox Sunni practice due to superstitious and even polythesitic beliefs.

which was sourced from: http://www.alhiwar.org/en/content/view/19/2/

This link doesn't even work.

Edit 4 I removed this:

then returned to Morocco that same year to finish his Bachelor of Arts degree at the University of al-Karaouine. Responding to a call by Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna for Muslim intellectuals of Morocco to share ideas with those elsewhere, Hilali wrote a number of letters to the organization's magazine which were intercepted by authorities of the French colonial empire. Arrested and held for three days without charge, Hilali's release was secured and he fled Morocco. Shortly after he escaped the country, he was sentenced to death in absentia for subversive activity against the French protectorate of Morocco.

as no source has been provided.

Edit 5 I removed this:

After performing the pilgrimage to Mecca, Hilali moved to India in order to pursue Hadith studies. While there, he worked as head of Arabic studies at Darul-uloom Nadwatul Ulama in Lucknow. After completing his study in India, Hilali spent three years in Iraq before being personally invited by first King of Saudi Arabia Ibn Saud to teach in the Muslim holy land. Hilali taught and led the prayer in Medina at Al-Masjid an-Nabawi, Islam's second holiest site, for two years and taught in Mecca at Masjid al-Haram, Islam's most holy site, for one more year. as no source has been provided.

Edit 6 I removed this:

After finishing his duration of teaching in Mecca, Hilali enrolled in Baghdad University; he also served as an assistant professor while there. Hilali returned briefly to India for a second time, and enrolled in the University of Lucknow as both a student and a teacher, the most prominent of his own being Abul Hasan Ali Hasani Nadwi. Shakib Arslan, who was a close friend of Hilali which was sourced from: http://www.alhiwar.org/en/content/view/19/2/

This link doesn't even work.

Edit 7 I removed this:

He transferred to Humboldt University of Berlin, where he earned his doctoral degree in Arabic literature in 1940.

as no source has been provided.

Edit 8 I removed this:

Toward the end of World War II, Hilali left Germany for French Morocco, which was rocked with calls for independence. He returned to Iraq in 1947, once again taking up a teaching position at the university in Baghdad. After the 14 July Revolution, Hilali returned to a now-independent Kingdom of Morocco one more time. He was appointed to a teaching position at Mohammed V University in Rabat in 1959 and later at a branch in Fes which was sourced from: http://www.alhiwar.org/en/content/view/19/2/

This link doesn't even work.

Edit 9 I removed this:

In 1968, Saudi Arabian Grand Mufti Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz wrote to Hilali requesting that he take up a teaching position at Islamic University of Madinah, of which Bin Baz was the president. Hilali accepted, living in Saudi Arabia for one more time between 1968 and 1974.

as no source has been provided.

Edit 10 I removed this: Views on Hilali within the Muslim world itself - specifically within Sunni Islam- have been positive.

as no source has been provided. In addition, I added a whole set of quotes from academics which strongly criticize his work which was removed without explanation.

Edit 11

I removed this: Hilali also translated the book al-Lulu wa al-Marjan to English during the period of his stay at the Islamic University of Madinah.

as no source has been provided.

Edit 12 I added that Hilali was a Salafi as this has been explicitly stated in Henri Lauzière, M.A., The Evolution of the Salafiyya in the Twentieth Century through the life and thought of Taqi al-Din al-Hilali, iii. which is a Phd dissertation in Georgetown University. Why was this removed?

Conclusion My edits consist of:

• Removing unsourced material
• Removing material taken from badly sourced websites or websites that are broken.
• Adding material taken from a Phd thesis.

They should all therefore be reinstated.