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:Never "Mac OSX", with no space between the "OS" and "X", but it was officially called "Mac OS X", with a space between the "OS" and "X", from Mac OS X 10.0 through Mac OS X 10.6, as indicated by Apple's pages for the OS from [https://web.archive.org/web/20010629214227/http://www.apple.com/macosx/ 10.0] through [https://web.archive.org/web/20110606032318/http://www.apple.com/macosx/ 10.6]. For 10.7, Apple used both names; for 10.8 and later, they called it OS X. [[User:Guy Harris|Guy Harris]] ([[User talk:Guy Harris|talk]]) 22:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC) |
:Never "Mac OSX", with no space between the "OS" and "X", but it was officially called "Mac OS X", with a space between the "OS" and "X", from Mac OS X 10.0 through Mac OS X 10.6, as indicated by Apple's pages for the OS from [https://web.archive.org/web/20010629214227/http://www.apple.com/macosx/ 10.0] through [https://web.archive.org/web/20110606032318/http://www.apple.com/macosx/ 10.6]. For 10.7, Apple used both names; for 10.8 and later, they called it OS X. [[User:Guy Harris|Guy Harris]] ([[User talk:Guy Harris|talk]]) 22:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC) |
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::As to Mac OS X 10.7, the officially is definitively Mac OS X Lion 10.7, never OS X Lion 10.7! [[User:Sensorite|Sensorite]] ([[User talk:Sensorite|talk]]) 00:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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The top / main headshot image is absolutely drab, and not commissioned by Apple as a good consumer or contributed image. Someone has changed the previous beautiful image to a drab one. Could be hackers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.223.190 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Tables associated with the above section
Those following tables are modified by Janagewen
Sample One
Version | Codename | Firmware Support | Processor Support | Processor Architecture | Kernel Mode | Date announced | Release date | Most recent version | |
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Kernel | ISA | ||||||||
Rhapsody Developer Release | Grail1Z4 / Titan1U | Open Firmware | PowerPC | PPC32 | 32-bit | 32-bit | Unknown | August 31, 1997 | DR2 (May 14, 1998) |
BIOS | Intel | IA-32 | Unknown | ||||||
Mac OS X Server 1.0 | Hera | Open Firmware | PowerPC | PPC32 | Unknown | March 16, 1999 | 1.2v3 (October 27, 2000) | ||
Mac OS X Developer Preview | Kodiak[1] | May 11, 1998 | March 16, 1999 | DP4 (April 5, 2000) | |||||
Public Beta | Cheetah | Unknown | September 13, 2000 | — | |||||
Mac OS X 10.0 | Cheetah | Unknown | March 24, 2001 | 10.0.4 (June 22, 2001) | |||||
Mac OS X 10.1 | Puma | July 18, 2001 | September 25, 2001 | 10.1.5 (June 6, 2002) | |||||
Mac OS X 10.2 | Jaguar | 32-bit 64-bit |
May 6, 2002 | August 24, 2002 | 10.2.8 (October 3, 2003) | ||||
Mac OS X 10.3[2] | Panther | 32-bit | June 23, 2003 | October 24, 2003 | 10.3.9 (April 15, 2005) | ||||
Mac OS X 10.4[3] | Tiger | PPC32, PPC64 | May 4, 2004 | April 29, 2005 | 10.4.11 (November 14, 2007) | ||||
EFI32, EFI64[4] | Intel | IA-32, PPC32[5] Intel 64[6] |
June 6, 2005 (10.4.1) |
January 10, 2006 (10.4.4) | |||||
Tiger (Universal) | Open Firmware EFI32, EFI64 |
PowerPC, Intel | PPC32, IA-32 PPC64, Intel 64 |
August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) |
August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) | ||||
Mac OS X 10.5 | Leopard | June 26, 2006 | October 26, 2007 | 10.5.8 (August 5, 2009) | |||||
Mac OS X 10.6 | Snow Leopard | EFI32, EFI64 | Intel | IA-32, PPC32 Intel 64 (32-bit, 64-bit) |
32-bit 64-bit |
June 9, 2008 | August 28, 2009 | 10.6.8 v1.1 (July 25, 2011) | |
Mac OS X 10.7 | Lion | Intel 64 | IA-32 Intel 64 (32-bit, 64-bit) |
64-bit | October 20, 2010 | July 20, 2011 | 10.7.5 (September 19, 2012) | ||
OS X 10.8 | Mountain Lion | EFI64 | Intel 64 (32-bit, 64-bit) |
64-bit | February 16, 2012 | July 25, 2012 | 10.8.5 (12F45) (October 3, 2013) | ||
OS X 10.9 | Mavericks | June 10, 2013 | October 22, 2013 | 10.9.5 (13F1112) (September 18, 2014) | |||||
OS X 10.10 | Yosemite | June 2, 2014 | October 16, 2014 | 10.10.5 (14F27) (August 13, 2015) | |||||
OS X 10.11 | El Capitan | June 8, 2015 | September 30, 2015 | 10.11 (15A284) (September 30, 2015) |
Sample Two
Version | Codename | Firmware Support | Processor Support | Processor Architecture | Kernel Mode | Date announced | Release date | Most recent version | ||||||||||
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OF | BIOS | EFI32 | EFI64 | PowerPC | Intel | 32-bit | 64-bit | PPC32 | PPC64 | IA-32 | Intel 64 | 32-bit | 64-bit | |||||
Rhapsody Developer Release | Grail1Z4 / Titan1U | Y | N | N | N | Y | N | Y | N | Y | N | N | N | Y | N | Unknown | August 31, 1997 | DR2 (May 14, 1998) |
N | Y | N | Y | N | Y | Unknown | ||||||||||||
Mac OS X Server 1.0 | Hera | Y | N | Y | N | Y | N | Unknown | March 16, 1999 | 1.2v3 (October 27, 2000) | ||||||||
Mac OS X Developer Preview | Kodiak[7] | May 11, 1998 | March 16, 1999 | DP4 (April 5, 2000) | ||||||||||||||
Public Beta | Cheetah | Unknown | September 13, 2000 | — | ||||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.0 | Cheetah | Unknown | March 24, 2001 | 10.0.4 (June 22, 2001) | ||||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.1 | Puma | July 18, 2001 | September 25, 2001 | 10.1.5 (June 6, 2002) | ||||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.2 | Jaguar | Y | YB | May 6, 2002 | August 24, 2002 | 10.2.8 (October 3, 2003) | ||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.3 | Panther | U | June 23, 2003 | October 24, 2003 | 10.3.9 (April 15, 2005) | |||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.4[8] | Tiger | C | May 4, 2004 | April 29, 2005 | 10.4.11 (November 14, 2007) | |||||||||||||
N | Y | Y[9] | N | Y | E | N | Y | C[10] | June 6, 2005 (10.4.1) |
January 10, 2006 (10.4.4) | ||||||||
Tiger (Universal) | Y | Y | YE | C | August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) |
August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) | ||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.5 | Leopard | Y | Y | June 26, 2006 | October 26, 2007 | 10.5.8 (August 5, 2009) | ||||||||||||
Mac OS X 10.6 | Snow Leopard | N | N | E | N | UY | June 9, 2008 | August 28, 2009 | 10.6.8 v1.1 (July 25, 2011) | |||||||||
Mac OS X 10.7 | Lion | N | N | B | October 20, 2010 | July 20, 2011 | 10.7.5 (September 19, 2012) | |||||||||||
OS X 10.8 | Mountain Lion | N | N | Y | February 16, 2012 | July 25, 2012 | 10.8.5 (12F45) (October 3, 2013) | |||||||||||
OS X 10.9 | Mavericks | June 10, 2013 | October 22, 2013 | 10.9.5 (13F1112) (September 18, 2014) | ||||||||||||||
OS X 10.10 | Yosemite | June 2, 2014 | October 16, 2014 | 10.10.5 (14F27) (August 13, 2015) | ||||||||||||||
OS X 10.11 | El Capitan | June 8, 2015 | September 30, 2015 | 10.11 (15A284) (September 30, 2015) | ||||||||||||||
Version | Codename | OF | BIOS | EFI32 | EFI64 | PowerPC | Intel | 32-bit | 64-bit | PPC32 | PPC64 | IA-32 | Intel 64 | 32-bit | 64-bit | Date announced | Release date | Most recent version |
Firmware Support | Processor Support | Processor Architecture | Kernel Mode |
- Y: yes and present
- N: no and unavailable
- E: emulated and presented
- B: backward implemented and presented
- U: upward implemented, unavailable
- YE: physically or virtually presented
- YB: physically presented or backward implemented and presented
- UY: upward implemented, unavailable or physically presented
- C: 64-bit application only supported on text BSD UNIX layer
Sample Three
Version | Codename | Firmware Support | Processor Support | Processor Architecture | Kernel Mode | Classic Environment | Date announced | Release date | Most recent version | ||
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Application | KEXT | Kernel | |||||||||
Rhapsody Developer Release | Grail1Z4 / Titan1U | Open Firmware | PowerPC | PPC32 | PPC32 | PPC32 | 32-bit | Mac OS 8 | Unknown | August 31, 1997 | DR2 (May 14, 1998) |
BIOS | Intel | IA-32 | IA-32 | IA-32 | — | Unknown | |||||
Mac OS X Server 1.0 | Hera | Open Firmware | PowerPC | PPC32 | PPC32 | PPC32 | Mac OS 8.5.1 | Unknown | March 16, 1999 | 1.2v3 (October 27, 2000) | |
Mac OS X Developer Preview | Kodiak[11] | Unknown | May 11, 1998 | March 16, 1999 | DP4 (April 5, 2000) | ||||||
Public Beta | Cheetah | Mac OS 9.0.4[12] | Unknown | September 13, 2000 | — | ||||||
Mac OS X 10.0 | Cheetah | Mac OS 9.1 and later | Unknown | March 24, 2001 | 10.0.4 (June 22, 2001) | ||||||
Mac OS X 10.1 | Puma | July 18, 2001 | September 25, 2001 | 10.1.5 (June 6, 2002) | |||||||
Mac OS X 10.2 | Jaguar | PPC32 (PPC64[13]) | May 6, 2002 | August 24, 2002 | 10.2.8 (October 3, 2003) | ||||||
Mac OS X 10.3 | Panther | PPC32 PPC64 |
32-bit | June 23, 2003 | October 24, 2003 | 10.3.9 (April 15, 2005) | |||||
Mac OS X 10.4[14] | Tiger | PPC32 PPC64 (CLI only) |
May 4, 2004 | April 29, 2005 | 10.4.11 (November 14, 2007) | ||||||
EFI32, EFI64[15] | Intel | IA-32, PPC32 Intel 64[16] (CLI only) |
IA-32 | IA-32, Intel 64[17] |
Microsoft Windows[18] | June 6, 2005 (10.4.1) |
January 10, 2006 (10.4.4) | ||||
Tiger (Universal) | Open Firmware EFI32, EFI64 |
PowerPC, Intel | PPC32, IA-32 PPC64, Intel 64 (CLI only) |
PPC32, IA-32 | PPC32, IA-32, PPC64, Intel 64 |
August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) |
August 10, 2006 (Server 10.4.7) | ||||
Mac OS X 10.5 | Leopard | PPC32, PPC64 IA-32, Intel 64 |
June 26, 2006[19] | October 26, 2007 | 10.5.8 (August 5, 2009) | ||||||
Mac OS X 10.6 | Snow Leopard | EFI32, EFI64 | Intel | IA-32, PPC32, Intel 64 |
IA-32 Intel 64 |
IA-32 Intel 64 |
32-bit 64-bit |
June 9, 2008 | August 28, 2009 | 10.6.8 v1.1 (July 25, 2011) | |
Mac OS X 10.7 | Lion | Intel 64 | IA-32, Intel 64 | Intel 64 | October 20, 2010 | July 20, 2011 | 10.7.5 (September 19, 2012) | ||||
OS X 10.8 | Mountain Lion | EFI64 | Intel 64 | 64-bit | February 16, 2012 | July 25, 2012 | 10.8.5 (12F45) (October 3, 2013) | ||||
OS X 10.9 | Mavericks | June 10, 2013 | October 22, 2013 | 10.9.5 (13F1112) (September 18, 2014) | |||||||
OS X 10.10 | Yosemite | June 2, 2014 | October 16, 2014 | 10.10.5 (14F27) (August 13, 2015) | |||||||
OS X 10.11 | El Capitan | June 8, 2015 | September 30, 2015 | 10.11 (15A284) (September 30, 2015) | |||||||
Version | Codename | Firmware Support | Processor Support | Application | KEXT | Kernel | Kernel Mode | Boot Camp | Date announced | Release date | Most recent version |
Processor Architecture |
Done
References
- ^ http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_OS_X_Developer_Preview
- ^
Panther introduced rudimentary 64-bit support to Mac OS X. It expanded the virtual address space (in the kernel, anyway) to 64 bits and allowed the use of 64-bit registers and the instructions that manipulate them (i.e., 64-bit math).
from http://arstechnica.com/apple/2005/04/macosx-10-4/4/ - ^ The 64-bit support for Mac OS X 10.4 is limited to non-GUI applications. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2005/04/macosx-10-4/4/
- ^ EFI64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ 32-bit PowerPC ISA is also supported for Intel Mac through Rosetta Emulator in Mac OS X 10.4, 10.5 and 10.6
- ^ Intel 64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_OS_X_Developer_Preview
- ^ The 64-bit support for Mac OS X 10.4 is limited to applications programming on 64-bit libSystem . http://arstechnica.com/apple/2005/04/macosx-10-4/4/
- ^ EFI64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ Intel 64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ http://guides.macrumors.com/Mac_OS_X_Developer_Preview
- ^ http://www.macos.utah.edu/documentation/short_courses/mac_os_x_overview/history_and_evolution/os_x_history.html
- ^ http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-344.21.74/osfmk/ppc/Emulate64.s, from XNU source code of Mac OS X 10.2.8 G5
- ^ The 64-bit support for Mac OS X 10.4 is limited to non-GUI applications. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2005/04/macosx-10-4/4/
- ^ EFI64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ Intel 64 support was introduced with version 10.4.8
- ^ http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/xnu/xnu-792.13.8/osfmk/i386/start64.s, from XNU kernel source for Mac OS X 10.4.8 x86
- ^ supported version(s) of Windows by Boot Camp as another O/S on Intel Macs
- ^ "Apple Executives to Preview Mac OS X "Leopard" at WWDC 2006 Keynote" (Press release). Apple. Retrieved March 11, 2010.
Verbosity
Hi guys. I was just thinking that the History and PowerPC-Intel transition sections are far too long, because they are just supposed to be summaries of main articles rather than serving to replace them. Blythwood just did a ton of really admirable work in citing the whole article, and I didn't know whether that's new content or whether it's come from the main history article. If the latter, then that content and more, should basically go back there. Also I was thinking that the whole list of versions should be collapsed in the ToC. Thank you very much because this is a really great article. — Smuckola(talk) 22:42, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes fair enough, when I was adding material there I was starting to wonder how to handle having a concise version here and a longer version in the History of OS X article. Will think about this - happy to welcome others' input as long as any content felt to be too much here is being moved over to the history article. Blythwood (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Blythwood: Hey there. So was that basically all-new content? Is it not redundant to History of OS X? I'm just asking because I don't know. If so, the most important thing is that you got it together and published, since it's so high quality. I'd say that the sections I mentioned should be about a quarter of the length of what they presently are, because they have main articles. They should just be a brief casual overview (like the main articles' leads) for someone who really doesn't care very much or else they'd read the main article. This article has a lot of such sections, but still a lot of completely unique content. Thanks a lot. — Smuckola(talk) 17:05, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Smuckola: Yes, on balance it is a bit redundant. I felt I should something there to describe general trends, for example the fact that early OS X reviews criticised it for being slow. I see now it would make sense to pare it down and move content into the history article, maybe the bit from 'Apple rapidly developed...' onwards - feel free to do what you want to it. Perhaps skip from there to ... From 2012 onwards. Blythwood (talk) 14:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
Rosetta
"PowerPC (10.0–10.5.8; PowerPC applications still supported on x86 with Rosetta up to 10.7"
It was up to 10.6.8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.75.93.92 (talk) 23:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
- You were right, fixed, thanks. — Smuckola(talk) 01:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Whether it's correct or not, people use "up to" in both the inclusive sense (where "up to 10.6.8" would be correct) and the non-inclusive sense (where "up to 10.7", as in "10.7 was the first release where it's not the case", would be correct) - it means "until" in the non-inclusive sense - so it wasn't incorrect. It was, however, ambiguous, so your rewrite, avoiding "up to" entirely, is the right way to say it. Guy Harris (talk) 01:25, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
When was the "Mac" dropped?
The lead section says "OSX" was "originally Mac OS X", yet I can't find a single reference in the article when the product name change occurred. Was it ever officially called "Mac OSX"? — QuicksilverT @ 21:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- Never "Mac OSX", with no space between the "OS" and "X", but it was officially called "Mac OS X", with a space between the "OS" and "X", from Mac OS X 10.0 through Mac OS X 10.6, as indicated by Apple's pages for the OS from 10.0 through 10.6. For 10.7, Apple used both names; for 10.8 and later, they called it OS X. Guy Harris (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- As to Mac OS X 10.7, the officially is definitively Mac OS X Lion 10.7, never OS X Lion 10.7! Sensorite (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
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