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== Armstrong became the first to step onto the lunar surface six hours later... ==
== Armstrong became the first to step onto the lunar surface six hours later... ==


The article wastes no time noting that Armstrong was the first "to step onto the lunar surface" and this seems to be in keeping with a prior tradition of designating Neil Armstrong as "first man on the moon". What I was hoping to find is some discussion on just why traditionally so much more has been published about Armstrong being "first" when he was only "first" for beginning an EVA. Surely the landing itself is universally regarded as simultaneously depositing both men on the lunar surface and that point both men were "on the moon" in every meaningful sense, the EVA only substituted a moon boot for the layer between their feet and the lunar surface in place of the vehicle floor and landing legs of the LEM that were under their feet at landing. If some mishap has forced an early launch and return in the 6 hours before the EVA nobody would dispute that both men had simultaneously been the first to set foot on the Moon. They were at rest on the Moon, not in space or some other non lunar location. Some of the sources currently cited in the article appear to imply that the decision to not afford simultaneous credit for "first on the moon" might lie with NASA in the sense that some early press releases note that Neil Armstrong was the first man to set foot on the moon and do not always appear to note that both men together were the first to arrive at the moon but I wonder about recollections of the broadcasts and other media. Was the distinction almost universally noted the day of landing or was the distinction only stressed later on? Are any editors aware if there been any discussion on the implication this stress on first to complete EVA over simultaneous credit for first landing and arrival for future possibly international missions where it might be more desirable to focus on the simultaneous achievement? If so I think some short reference to this discussion might improve the article.[[User:Driftwoodzebulin|Zebulin]] ([[User talk:Driftwoodzebulin|talk]]) 16:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
The article wastes no time noting that Armstrong was the first "to step onto the lunar surface" and this seems to be in keeping with a prior tradition of designating Neil Armstrong as "first man on the moon". What I was hoping to find is some discussion on just why traditionally so much more has been published about Armstrong being "first" when he was only "first" for beginning an EVA. Surely the landing itself is universally regarded as simultaneously depositing both men on the lunar surface and that point both men were "on the moon" in every meaningful sense, the EVA only substituted a moon boot for the layer between their feet and the lunar surface in place of the vehicle floor and landing legs of the LEM that were under their feet at landing. If some mishap had forced an early launch and return in the 6 hours before the EVA nobody would dispute that both men had simultaneously been the first to set foot on the Moon. They were at rest on the Moon, not in space or some other non lunar location. Some of the sources currently cited in the article appear to imply that the decision to not afford simultaneous credit for "first on the moon" might lie with NASA in the sense that some early press releases note that Neil Armstrong was the first man to set foot on the moon and do not always appear to note that both men together were the first to arrive at the moon but I wonder about recollections of the broadcasts and other media. Was the distinction almost universally noted the day of landing or was the distinction only stressed later on? Are any editors aware if there been any discussion on the implication this stress on first to complete EVA over simultaneous credit for first landing and arrival for future possibly international missions where it might be more desirable to focus on the simultaneous achievement? If so I think some short reference to this discussion might improve the article.[[User:Driftwoodzebulin|Zebulin]] ([[User talk:Driftwoodzebulin|talk]]) 16:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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Change wording

The first sentence reads "Apollo 11 was the spaceflight that landed the first humans on the Moon, " This wording is confusing. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were the first humans to walk on the moon, but the wording makes it sound like Adam and Eve were in Apollo 11. A better way to write it would be "Apollo 11 was the first spaceflight to land humans on the Moon, ". This would clear up any confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.221.144.98 (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. sroc 💬 13:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1969/71

On Category:Apollo 11, I changed Category:1971 in spaceflight and Category:1971 in the United States, to Category:1969 in spaceflight and Category:1969 in the United States. Apollo 11 took place in 1969, not 1971, so what I fixed was an obvious mistake. Okay?--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 19:39, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Request to edit The Apollo 11 mission had multiple problem during the adventure to the moon. For example, the crew had an issue while starting the ascent engine, a circuit. As a last resort they improvised and used a pen to keep the circuit in place during the trip to the moon.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellen.church (talkcontribs) 12:19, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The circuit breaker incident is already there, under Apollo_11#Lunar_ascent_and_return. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Request to edit Some people don't realize how large the crew was that made the trip to the moon possible. It was not just the astronauts that did everything during the mission, the scientists are the main reason that the mission was such a great success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellen.church (talkcontribs) 14:48, 29 February 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Please indicate exactly what you propose to be changed. TJRC (talk) 16:16, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request

Change the first sentence to "Apollo 11 was the first spaceflight to land the first humans on the moon" --Therockisinthebuilding (talk) 00:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

change the first sentence to "Apollo 11 was the first spaceflight to ever land humans on the surface of the moon."--Therockisinthebuilding (talk) 00:36, 3 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Armstrong became the first to step onto the lunar surface six hours later...

The article wastes no time noting that Armstrong was the first "to step onto the lunar surface" and this seems to be in keeping with a prior tradition of designating Neil Armstrong as "first man on the moon". What I was hoping to find is some discussion on just why traditionally so much more has been published about Armstrong being "first" when he was only "first" for beginning an EVA. Surely the landing itself is universally regarded as simultaneously depositing both men on the lunar surface and that point both men were "on the moon" in every meaningful sense, the EVA only substituted a moon boot for the layer between their feet and the lunar surface in place of the vehicle floor and landing legs of the LEM that were under their feet at landing. If some mishap had forced an early launch and return in the 6 hours before the EVA nobody would dispute that both men had simultaneously been the first to set foot on the Moon. They were at rest on the Moon, not in space or some other non lunar location. Some of the sources currently cited in the article appear to imply that the decision to not afford simultaneous credit for "first on the moon" might lie with NASA in the sense that some early press releases note that Neil Armstrong was the first man to set foot on the moon and do not always appear to note that both men together were the first to arrive at the moon but I wonder about recollections of the broadcasts and other media. Was the distinction almost universally noted the day of landing or was the distinction only stressed later on? Are any editors aware if there been any discussion on the implication this stress on first to complete EVA over simultaneous credit for first landing and arrival for future possibly international missions where it might be more desirable to focus on the simultaneous achievement? If so I think some short reference to this discussion might improve the article.Zebulin (talk) 16:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]