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Hello there! Thank you for taking the time to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APaul_Singer_(businessman)&diff=cur&oldid=prev review my request]. I'm afraid, however, that it's quite possible none of the parties involved will be satisfied with such an assessment. The RfC was not heeded and its closure was put into question. What do you suggest we do? As I see it, either the RfC is void or it isn't. Thanks again for your counsel. Best, <small>[[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuS]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/FoCuSandLeArN|<span style="color: green">contribs</span>]]; [[User_talk:FoCuSandLeArN|<span style="color: dark blue">talk to me!</span>]] 01:07, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello there! Thank you for taking the time to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APaul_Singer_(businessman)&diff=cur&oldid=prev review my request]. I'm afraid, however, that it's quite possible none of the parties involved will be satisfied with such an assessment. The RfC was not heeded and its closure was put into question. What do you suggest we do? As I see it, either the RfC is void or it isn't. Thanks again for your counsel. Best, <small>[[User:FoCuSandLeArN|FoCuS]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/FoCuSandLeArN|<span style="color: green">contribs</span>]]; [[User_talk:FoCuSandLeArN|<span style="color: dark blue">talk to me!</span>]] 01:07, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

== World Wide Web ==

Hi krakatoaKatie,

I would like not to participate in a edit-war,

But look at the last edit from EthelDavis, no reference only an opinion.

The document there https://www.w3.org/Proposal.html shows the proposal, and it is clearly firmed by Tim Berneres-Lee and Roberts Cailliau.
Why should I not modify an article based on thrust full sources, when people change it only based on personal opinion?

Regards

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RevDel request

I would like you to delete this and this revision to User talk:Drmies, on the grounds of grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material. ElectricBurst(Electron firings)(Zaps) 21:17, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Katietalk 22:00, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You missed a spot... ElectricBurst(Electron firings)(Zaps) 23:16, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Eep - now I got it. I did these under RD3, though, not RD2. Katietalk 23:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New woman, same old tricks

I couldn't resist the section heading, heh. New woman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who you blocked yesterday, has been abusing their talk page access by continuing to post random messages completely unrelated to the encyclopedia. This has been accompanied by using the {{help me}} template, which is disruptive. Could you look into possibly removing talk page access? Thanks! ~ RobTalk 08:46, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@BU Rob13: Yamla beat me to it. Can't wait to look at the inevitable UTRS appeal(s). ;-) Katietalk 13:05, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LeonRaper

Everyone at Wikipedia keeps giving me the BS about web links. Guess what, my real business is Vegas88.com. For over 40 years I have been booking TV and film stars all over the U.S. and Canada into personal appearance events. I have been using Wikipedia for many years to find out how to contact these people. Wikipedia lists their personal web site. links to imdb.com, and sometimes many other contact links. I was also a Talent Agent in Beverly Hills for 10 years. Dance is not my business. I do it for enjoyment and to help other dancers find dance information.

Regarding my proposed Wikipedia page. I don't think you read it. In my most recent submission there are no links to click on. Also, you said I needed to provide information that others have provided about me. Please look at the 17 REFERENCES below:

REFERENCES Le chant des Eve, La danse des Adam, by Stephanie Del Regno, 2012 ISBN 978-2-36696-002-0 ... West Coast Swing (Page 294 Article & Picture) Queen of the Stardust Ballroom Movie (February 1975) ... Mr. Raper was a dancer in the movie Bug-Bitten Boogies Bounce To Jammin; Slammin' Beat, Orange County Register, October 27, 1974 (Article & Pictures) Dance Terminology Notebook, by Skippy Blair, 1995 ISBN 0-932-980-11-2 ... Mr. Raper was a Proof Reader of this book - Dancer - Teacher Disco To Tango and Back, by Skippy Blair, 1978 ISBN 0-932-980-01-05 ... Jitterbug Club of America (Note Pg 189) Resident Has Links to the Stars, Camp Verde Journal, October 2, 2002 (Article & Picture) Two Left Feet No Obstacle to Dancing the Night Away - With Proper Teaching, Verde Valley News, Arts & Entertainment Section, January 19, 2001 (Article & Picture) Cutting a Rug Ballroom Style, Camp Verde Journal, by Rachel Flegenheimer, November 1, 2000 (Article & Pictures) Let's Go Do the Hop, Verde Valley News, by Pamela Williams & Paula Blankenship, November 1998 (Article & Pictures) Swingin it, Lumberjack News, September 1998 (Article & icture) Lindy Hop Class, Camp Verde Journal, July 1998 (Article & Many Pictures) US Swing Dance Council, Swing Dance Journal, October 1992 (Article & Picture) Thousands of spins later, he's still swinging, Arizona Daily Sun, June 8, 1992 (Article & Picture) Champion dancer two-steps his way from Hollywood to NAU, Lumberjack News, April 8, 1992 (Article & Picture) Swing Around The Circuit, Jitterbug Magazine, September 1992 (Article & Picture) Dance Instructor H. Leon Raper, Swing Dance Journal, October 1992 (Pg 5) ... (Article & Picture) Arizona Daily Sun, April 16, 1989 ... (Words & Picture)

Regarding Biographical information. Wikipedia has biographies all over Wikipedia.

Now, you can just delete what I have submitted, or I first suggest you send my information to those who work in the Wikipedia dance community.

Hubert Leon Raper 17:05, 4 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeonRaper (talkcontribs)

@LeonRaper: First, this is not BS. I'm really trying to work with you here and I'd appreciate it if you would be civil. There are others here who are already tired of your attitude and are urging me to delete the page. If you don't like this part of the editing process, you should leave now because you really won't like it when others start editing the article. As to the references, that's a good start (except for the one about proofreading, unless your claim to notability is as a proofreader). Now add those to the draft article in the appropriate format. We have a language here and we need to be able to read what you write. And stop giving out your phone number. Just sign your posts with four tildes, like this --> ~~~~ which will sign your name. Katietalk 18:29, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

KATIE

Hey I was commenting on that on AIV I suggest blocking him for disruptive editing and delete his/her page for WP:Snowball Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 18:16, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCup 2016 May newsletter

FP of Christ Church Cathedral, Falkland Islands by Godot13

Round 2 is over and 35 competitors have moved on to Round 3.

Round 2 saw three FAs (two by New South Wales Cas Liber (submissions) and one by Montana Montanabw (submissions)), four Featured Lists (with three by England Calvin999 (submissions)), and 53 Good Articles (six by Lancashire Worm That Turned (submissions) and five each by Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions), Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), and Denmark MPJ-DK (submissions)). Eleven Featured Pictures were promoted (six by There's always time for skeletons Adam Cuerden (submissions) and five by Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions)). One Featured Portal, Featured Topic and Good Topic were also promoted. The DYK base point total was 1,135. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) scored 265 base points, while British Empire The C of E (submissions) and Denmark MPJ-DK (submissions) each scored 150 base points. Eleven ITN were promoted and 131 Good Article Reviews were conducted with Denmark MPJ-DK (submissions) completing a staggering 61 reviews. Two contestants, Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and New South Wales Cas Liber (submissions), broke the 700 point mark for Round 2.

If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Thanks to everyone for participating, and good luck to those moving into round 2. Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs · email), and Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) -- MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:00, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Advice regarding appeal

Since you were the closing admin on my ban from editing disambiguation pages and talk pages of disambiguation pages, I would like to consult with you on the proper form and venue to appeal the talk page ban.

My primary argument would revolve around the fact that the talk page ban was not part of the original proposal and that many of the votes had already been cast by the time the talk page ban was proposed, thus only a handful of the support votes were actually in favor of the talk page ban. My secondary arguments would specify that the talk page ban should never have been proposed in the first place since talk pages are not part of Wikipedia's encyclopedic content, but exist rather for suggesting improvements and every single one of my disambiguation talk page contributions contained lengthy suggestions for improvements. Also, none violated talk page etiquette (copyright violations, incivility, etc). I would like to present a detailed point-by-point argumentation as to the reasons that the talk page ban is contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia and ask for its rescission. Although it was not at issue, I realize that you mentioned overlength of argumentation as one of the problems, which I will keep in mind.

I would appreciate any help in providing a link to the proper Wikipedia venue where the disambiguation talk page ban may be appealed. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 23:27, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Roman Spinner: Sure. Ban appeals go to WP:AN; title it something like 'Ban appeal by Roman Spinner'. I won't comment at the discussion, but I will give you this advice: make your appeal based on your understanding of the circumstances that led up to the ban, how you caused disruption, and how you will not do it again. Talk pages are absolutely part of the encyclopedia because we use them for collaboration. We ban people from talk pages all the time, so don't even go there or talk about it being 'against the spirit of Wikipedia' because it's not. Be concise – you don't want to do a point-by-point rebuttal thing unless someone asks you to do it, because that's part of what got you into this in the first place.
Here's a thought: you might read the this section and this section of the guide to appealing blocks – I know this isn't a block, but the principles of convincing people that you have a clue are the same. I hope you really do understand why your behavior was so disruptive and frustrating to many people, because I think you're a valuable contributor and you have a lot to offer the project. Good luck. :-) Katietalk 23:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@KrakatoaKatie: I am grateful for your kind reply, as well as comments regarding my contributions, and will follow your suggestions. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:09, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Email

I've sent you an email so we can coordinate the close on the draft RfC between the three of us. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My RfPP requests

Why did you configure pending changes for the pages I requested? The sockpuppets in question are those of The UPN Vandal. Pending changes will NOT stop him from editing the pages, and if page protection expires, it's just an "alarm clock" for him to continue editing again, which is why I requested indefinite semi-protection - to prevent him from editing the pages at all. ElectricBurst(Electron firings)(Zaps) 16:16, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Electricburst1996: Welp. Okay.
  • First, if you claim sockpuppetry, you should link to the SPI or LTA - we can't read minds and there are like 15,000 SPIs and that's not even an exaggeration. It's not our job to go searching through the edit history back four or five years to figure out which vandal to which you're referring, and we don't have the time.
  • Second, the pages aren't edited heavily enough for indefinite semi-protection, nor have we progressed through longer protections, and we haven't tried PC here yet. The longest any of those pages has been protected is six months. We have to balance the disruption level with that whole "encyclopedia anyone can iedit" thing, and PC fits the bill perfectly here. Besides, it must be incredibly frustrating for an IP who wants to vandalize to go to all this trouble only not to see his edit. I keep picturing the guy on his bed in his underwear in the dark banging his head against the headboard and screaming, "WHY CAN'T I SEE MY VANDALIZMS?!?"
  • Finally, if we use PC, I can get more data for a range block. I looked at that hard, but it's a /17 or a /19 range from AOL (at least this group is) and while it's about 40% disruption, I'd like to narrow it down a little. I did get a /24 range out of a couple of them but I think he's changed IPs since then.
If you disagree with any administrative decision I've made, you're free to take it to another admin or to WP:AN. I rarely have objections to modifications of protections or blocks I've placed and I certainly don't have an objection to someone else modifying these, but I believe this is the best course for now. Katietalk 19:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Salim Mehajer

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Salim Mehajer. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rougned Odor vandals

Felt like I was obliged to thank you for protecting the Odor article - I was the main person reverting the trolls and had no time to warn them. Zia224 (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Zia224: You're welcome, and I apologize for not thinking of it as I was watching the video of Odor throwing that punch over and over on ESPN. Katietalk 00:11, 16 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

Hi, thanks for accepting my request for rollback. I have one question if you don't mind: When I click the Rollback button, it says that the edit has been completed without letting me see the edit or putting in an edit summary. I tried to read WP:Rollback, but couldn't find the answer (unless I missed it). I'm pretty sure you can still add an edit summary with rollback as I think I've seen it before. Thanks for the help. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:20, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Vaselineeeeeeee: No, there's no edit summary with rollback. It's poof! and done. You can use Twinkle if you want to add an edit summary, but it's assumed and implied that if it's reverted sans edit summary that the reversion was due to vandalism. Katietalk 13:36, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay. The Twinkle edit summaries must look similar to the rollback ones, just with an added edit summary, which I must have confused for rollback. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 13:44, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Raper dance award

did he ever mention the existence of this video? enough to list him in that article? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3cJ7wm7sTg68.48.241.158 (talk) 23:50, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

felt a little sorry for the guy so thought it would be nice if he could be listed in that article..68.48.241.158 (talk) 00:34, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, you can use that as a source. I'd put in a descriptive edit summary just to make sure. I feel for him too and I tried to help, but he was simply draining too many resources and frustrating too many people. I work UTRS pretty hard and if he appeals, I'll listen. Katietalk 04:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I posted the video in the TALK of that hall of fame page..a user there articulated policy to suggest the video couldn't be used to support adding his award to the article..I would think in this case "WikiCommonSense" would suffice...but I don't want to get in an argument over it...if you'd like to see what that person reasoned..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Swing_Dance_Hall_of_Fame 68.48.241.158 (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Admin help

Hello there! Thank you for taking the time to review my request. I'm afraid, however, that it's quite possible none of the parties involved will be satisfied with such an assessment. The RfC was not heeded and its closure was put into question. What do you suggest we do? As I see it, either the RfC is void or it isn't. Thanks again for your counsel. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 01:07, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

World Wide Web

Hi krakatoaKatie,

I would like not to participate in a edit-war,

But look at the last edit from EthelDavis, no reference only an opinion.

The document there https://www.w3.org/Proposal.html shows the proposal, and it is clearly firmed by Tim Berneres-Lee and Roberts Cailliau.

Why should I not modify an article based on thrust full sources, when people change it only based on personal opinion?

Regards