User talk:KylieTastic

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I try to answer all questions, but I also have a busy real-life and heath issues to deal with - If you have a general question it may be quicker to ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse

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Ziggurat

Thanks. That's someone who not content with threatening me at Talk:Dogon is now stalking and reverting me. From what he's said at Talk:Dogon he seems to have searched for me on the web and I guess he knows I'm American. Doug Weller talk 07:28, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

• People like this really drive me close to leaving Wikipedia - Asserting a single point of view, attacking users, ignoring policies all while they just can jump anon addresses to avoid any long term issues. Although I agree with the general desire to let anyone edit, I'm now with the conclusion that especially with IP6 it just allows the idiots to do to much damage and takes up too much time. At least most just give up after a few days. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 11:28, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

I hate IP6, but I see Bishonen managed to block an IP6 range which I didn't know we could do. Doug Weller talk 08:31, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

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Retail Floorplan

Hi KylieTastic,

I recently added our retail Floor plan company to Wikipedia. This is not for promotional purposes but more for informational. Please let me know what you will need from me to add FlexPlus back to the Retail Floor Plan section. My apologies for any inconvenience...

thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.132.244.10 (talk) 17:59, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi 64.132.244.10, no apology needed you where just continuing what had already been started. Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia not a directory (See WP:NOTDIRECTORY), without independent reliable sources a list of links is just random and not based on criteria readers of an Encyclopedia expect. Also such inline External links are against Wikipedia policy. Now with them all removed all companies have the equal chance of being found by google etc. So to answer your question, the link should no go back at all and the compnay not mentioned unless in context with an independent reliable sourced piece of information related to the topic. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 18:09, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

16:18:03, 4 June 2016 review of submission by JohnHagie

• JohnHagie (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pedro Jóia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Kylie,

I am requesting a re-review after having "cleaned up my act" by better referencing the article. I believe that I did it correctly...

Thank you - John

• Hi JohnHagie did you see my answer to your last question here? I don't believe it's particularly fair to priorities one article over the others submitted - if you look at Category:AfC pending submissions by age we have over 700 pending and quite a few have been waiting weeks. Unfortunately either less people have been reviewing recently or we've just been getting more submissions (I think both), and I've had a lot of real lie issues.

However saying that I did have a quick look and frankly I'm not sure if they pass the relevant notability standard (see: Wikipedia:Notability (music)). I tend to be an Inclusionist but I would not want to accept it just to have someone (a Deletionist) flag it for deletion. If you can find any information with source that shows one of the points on Wikipedia:Notability (music) it would be easier - but I couldn't find any indication of chart success; or awards; or that the albums were released on a major record label or more important indie label; etc. So as such I would not be happy to decline per se, but I'm also not convinced enough to accept - I either would like to see something to pass Wikipedia:Notability (music) more clearly or wait for another reviewers opinion. So I suggest trying to add more, and be patient, and if you want more advise from other more experienced editors try asking at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 19:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Why my article is declined

Hi Kylie will you please tell me my article is declined — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhav Alpha (talk • contribs) 15:42, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Vaibhav Alpha as per my comment "Wikipedia is not social media or a blog" its an Encyclopedia. Your submission is more suitable for your own user page which you already have it on. To have a page on Wikipedia articles needs to meet our Wikipedia:Notability policy or one of the more specific ones such as in this case Notability. If your interested in photography I recommend checking out our sister project Wikimedia Commons where they have completions that may interest you, or look at Category:Wikipedia requested photographs for images others are requesting. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for guiding me kylie you made me clear about it all thanks once again  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhav Alpha (talk • contribs) 15:24, 7 June 2016 (UTC) 

My article "Skywhale (band)"

Hi KylieTastic,

I am sorry that my newly created article about the Bristol band Skywhale was not found to be acceptable for the Wikipedia guidelines. I only started to today do it is only a very bare-bones draft. I was hoping to add more information with reliable citations which would make the information more noteworthy.

Can I re-submit the article when I have filled it out?

--Cjcooper (talk) 03:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC) CJ Cooper

• Hi Cjcooper, no worries - and yes please do re-submit once you've filled the rest out. Note one of the main things to consider is meeting one of the criteria as given on Wikipedia:Notability (music). All the best KylieTastic (talk) 08:53, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Denied Wiki Page

You denied my Wikipedia page for "unverified sources". The source is an official government web page listed as a reference.

What exactly do you consider verified for sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djmc993150 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Djmc993150 the decline was not "unverified sources" but reliable sources - we generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). Although a government site is not as biased as many corporate or personal sites they still have a bias. Also the information is hard to verify as it only has the single link and no Inline citations. So although as I'm sure you've noticed articles already exist is a similar style we generally apply higher standards to new articles. As long as the information is kept neutral and non-promotional then it could probably be accepted as long as you can at least add inline references to the sections to the page on the site they come from - See Help:Referencing for beginners for more information on this. I would help with an example edit or too but as you have noticed we are extremely backlogged at AFC at the moment. Hope that makes sense, all the best KylieTastic (talk) 19:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Follow up/

Kylie,

Your rejection of my page is based on your violating the very references you gave me, specifically:

"Access to sources[edit]

Policy shortcuts: WP:PAYWALL WP:SOURCEACCESS

See also: Wikipedia:Offline sources, Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Cost

Some reliable sources may not be easily accessible. For example, an online source may require payment, and a print source may be available only in university libraries or other offline places. Do not reject sources just because they are hard or costly to access. If you have trouble accessing a source, others may be able to do so on your behalf (see WikiProject Resource Exchange). "

Just because YOU personally cant access the remainder of the government reference page, does not justify its denial.

Further, you seem to be asserting there is some bias or other reason for refusal. It is incumbent on you to prove the governments lying to make that claim. I am referencing official government sources for my information. You cannot arbitrarily declare them unreliable or biased because you don't like them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djmc993150 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Djmc993150, I did not say I could not access I said the relevant pages were not linked. Also I did not say they were biased, it's taken that all most all sources are biased. There is criticism of probably most government departments in most governments in the world on independent sites, however this independent view point is hardly ever mentioned on any government website. As a thought experiment, how much would just trust an article on a North Korean, Russian, or Iranian department sourced only with a single link to there website? You can either take what I actually said and add some inline references to sections, and preferably some external independent sources, or you can just wait and see what the next reviewer says - the choice is yours. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

• • And if you did not say you couldn't access the relevant pages, that tells me you made zero effort to look at the cited page. Further, "As a thought experiment, how much would just trust an article on a North Korean, Russian, or Iranian department sourced only with a single link to there website? " You are comparing North Korea and Iran to the US Military? I no longer need nor care about your advice on how to properly cite anything when you make such comparisons. I will wait for someone who has more intellect and deal with them.

TPConnects

Thanks for tiding up the TPConnects page. Contents from the following article caught my attention to this page. http://www.thebeat.travel/post/2016/06/03/No-GDSs-Or-TMCs-Are-NDC-Capable-Yet-Based-On-IATA-Certification.aspx. Please let me know if there is anything else I have to do. Raju Dubai (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Raju Dubai I didn't do a full review as that takes time and at the moment I'm just going though the new submissions to do basic tidy ups and decline completely non-yet suitable submissions. We are very backlogged at the moment probably because several of the regular reviewers are away or busy (that's the trouble with volunteer systems). Please be patient and someone (possibly myself) will get around to the full review and wither accept or give you feedback. In the meantime feel free to further improve the article or look at other articles. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 21:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

20:42:37, 12 June 2016 review of submission by Ladyyvone

• Ladyyvone (talk · contribs)
  • User:Ladyyvone/King pin brick money Raymond Garrett of utica N.Y. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

brick money kingpin of utica N.Y. Raymond Garrett

• Hi Ladyyvone that's not a question? For your information "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42) KylieTastic (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Please let me know where to edit my article

Hello Kylie

Hope you are fine. The article I think is not coming under promotion. If you think you can underline the phrase/ words thats showing any promotional matter.

Regards Prasenjit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.123.12.113 (talk) 09:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Prasenjit, jus a quick answer as I'm at work.... Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia and as such we have polices such as Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and articles much have reliable sources. The title of Draft:Microsoft Office 2016 – 4 Awesome New Features to Know is more sutable for a blog, and pharases like "There is no denying the fact that Microsoft Excel is an indispensable component of office work" is not neutral or sourced in anyway. Also although this may be a suitable standalone topic for a blog or tech news site there is no reason this would have its own Encyclopedic article. Microsoft Excel already exists with a section Excel 2016 (v16.0), also Microsoft Office 2016 also exists as an article. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 10:13, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Max Money

Hi Kylie, Good Day to you.

I was recently referred to the AfC and I came up with an article about the company I represent. I was trying to give more insights about the company which may be useful. I have referenced it with the external links making it more relevant. I was not trying to promote my brand, nor did I advertise any services. Kindly help me in getting this thru.

Thank you ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syed1809 (talk • contribs) 08:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Syed1809 sorry for the delay in getting back it's been a busy day. Firstly let me say I understand, and although we have polices against promotion and advertising most is understood to be unintentional and done in good faith. All articles on Wikipedia need to meet certain polices to be acceptable for inclusion: the main ones for new articles are the notability policies. In this case its the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) polices that need to be met. Also in general "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). Many companies just do not yet meet the requirements, others just need the independent reliable sources added to show that they do. Also note that Wikipedias notability standards are not related to how 'important' or 'good' a subject is. So have a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and see if you think the company meets the acquirements. Also I recommend the Wikipedia:Teahouse if you have other editing questions as you'll find lots of experienced editors that will try to help advise, and you don't have to wait for an individual to be about. Hope that helps - all the best KylieTastic (talk) 20:40, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Odoo_Community_Association

KyleTastic - Thanks for your review and feedback, it is useful and I will seek some more reliable external sources for Draft:Odoo_Community_Association and re-submit later. - SJM — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartJMackintosh (talk • contribs) 09:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi StuartJMackintosh glad to hear it - and welcome to Wikipedia. Note that creating new articles is one of the hardest things so don't be discouraged by 'declines' they are just to say 'not yet ok' and to point out why. Sometimes articles just need more editing and reliable sources, but sometime the subject has not yet met the WP:notability requirements. Note that this topic would come under Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) which hopefully will give you an idea of what would be required. Also I recommend the Wikipedia:Teahouse if you have questions as you'll find lots of experienced editors that will try to help. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
• I note that another member has now added some links so will check to see if these are more in line with your guidelines particularly Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). We will get there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartJMackintosh (talk • contribs) 09:13, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

• KyleTastic - I wonder if you can take another look at Draft:Odoo_Community_Association and let me know if the external references added will meet the guidelines. If so, I will clean up the article ready for publication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartJMackintosh (talk • contribs) 14:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi StuartJMackintosh, well it is a big improvement as none of the original sources were independent - however some of the new ones are still just press releases so still not independent. With a very quick look I'm not sure, and I'm too busy (real life and on WP) to look deeply at the moment, and I much prefer to get a independent set of eyes on an article than make the review process a one-on-one. So as such I recommend that you do clean it up, add more if you can and re-submit; alternatively you could just submit to get an opinion on the references; or for more helpful input than I'm able to give at the moment I would recommend asking at the Wikipedia:Teahouse where lots of experienced editors will see your query and be able give give help. Sorry I couldn't be of more help - too many 12 hour days are killing me and I need to go find some food. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 19:28, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

• User:KyleTastic, Thanks again for your helpful feedback, I will take your advice. Hope you catch up on some rest (and some food!). All the best, SJM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuartJMackintosh (talk • contribs) 07:23, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

07:53:33, 16 June 2016 review of submission by Amy Jaworska

• Amy Jaworska (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Lotus Ltd. (footwear) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Kyle,

thank you so much for reviewing my article. I would like to ask for your guidance on improving the existing referencing please. For example, if I was to upload an image (print advert) of the two references that were rejected, would they be then accepted?

thanks you for your help,

Amy

• Hi Amy, you can only uupload the image if its not copyrighted or has a suitably 'free' licence (such as CC-BY) see Wikipedia:Uploading images for more information. In some cases 'non free' images can be uploaded to English Wikipedia and used see Wikipedia:Non-free content, but it's difficult to tell from a file name like "1980 - New machinery.jpg". If you talking about your 'ref' "Punch, or the London Charivari" - which was more like a claim than a reference as I assume you are saying it was in some issues of Punch, or the London Charivari. To be a reference you would need something that either backs up the claim that they advertised their or some reference to the issue numbers and pages (so that someone could verify the information). I must admit I'm no copyright expert so you may have to seek guidence somewhere else to find out if you can upload images of the print adverts, such as the Wikipedia:Teahouse or maybe Commons:Village pump/Copyright over on commons. For more referncing help see Help:Referencing for beginners. Note that the standard for inclusing of this type of artciles is Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) so have a look at that to so what reviewers will be lookiing for. Lastly if you have any other questions on editing I recommned the Wikipedia:Teahouse as lots of experienced editors answer questions asked there. Hope that helped, all the best KylieTastic (talk) 10:15, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Can't you take a australian joke, are you able to put it back for a couple days.

Can't you take a australian joke, are you able to put it back for a couple days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchcliff123 (talk • contribs) 12:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Mitchcliff123, no, this is an encyclopedia, not Facebook. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:23, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

17:26:43, 16 June 2016 review of submission by Erlandau

• Erlandau (talk · contribs)
  • User:Erlandau/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Can you explain to me what parts of Edie's entry were not cited to your satisfaction? Erlandau (talk) 17:26, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Erlandau the article User:Erlandau/sandbox has no references at all, so the answer would be all of it. Please refer to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the relevant policies, also see Help:Referencing for beginners for help adding references. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

David O'Keefe (Historian)

A previous deleted image was reverted by me. The contested file is for and by the subject author who is the historian of the article. The work should not have been removed and my undo yesterday June 15, 2016 should be restored. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obltkg4 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Obltkg4 as per my revert edit summary the image has been deleted not removed so adding back a link to the image without dealing with the underlying issue first serves no point but to introduce an error on the page. The CommonsDelinker bot was just cleaning up the invalid link not removing to the already deleted image. The image was delete over on commons as a "possible copyright violation" as per the notice on your talk page over there see here. Also you had an answer by User:Christian Ferrer to your post here. As the image is already deleted I cannot view it so the license claim made so I can't comment on the facts - however you appear to just be claiming the image is the authors so copyright is not an issue: firstly the subject of an image often does not own the copyright; and secondly even if they do own the copyright they would still have to release it under a suitable 'free' licence - hence the answer you got about Commons:OTRS. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Coronel

Thanks for unbungling my bungle. Keith-264 (talk) 18:23, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Keith-264, no worries - it was clear it was an accident. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

I can't believe it! I did it again!Keith-264 (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

17:00:43, 18 June 2016 review of submission by Anketil

• Anketil (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Juby (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Apart from replacing the first reference with "Collin's Roll, College of Arms, London UK" I cannot see any other way of doing this. I am a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies and have a 6000+ database of Juby references together with family papers, Wills, etc throughout the centuries. There is so much rubbish put forward as to the origin of the name that I was hoping to put the record straight!

• Hi Anketil some things like "Juby family papers" and "Family papers" are not reliable sources at all and would count as original research. Some things like "John Nichols's 'History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester'", " Plea Rolls, Inquisitions Post Mortem and State Papers", "Parish Registers and Central Record Office, UK" and "1 Collin's Roll, College of Arms, London, UK" maybe are but they are not defined in a way others could check. Are these on websites, if books etc we need more details - see Help:Referencing for beginners for more help. Also if you'd like to seek advise from a wider range of experienced editors I recommend the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Hope that helps, cheers KylieTastic (talk) 17:12, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

21:30:11, 18 June 2016 review of submission by Rjmendez2016

• Rjmendez2016 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Rjmendez2016/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I would like to ask what would be the best course to take to have the page that I created to be published? I would absolutely appreciate your feedback and guidance on what needs to be done and not only to have it published but to make it better as well. :)

Rjmendez2016 (talk) 21:30, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Rjmendez2016, although we have a lot of policies the main one concerning this article would be Wikipedia:Notability (people), which would require reliable sources that are independent of the topic to show this. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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09:03:51, 19 June 2016 review of submission by Hoggm2

• Hoggm2 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Hoggm2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, Thank you for the feedback. I am still getting oriented to the workflow of Wikipedia. I have moved my page to userspace. I assume it doesn't need approval.

Please could you tell me how I remove the "Submission declined" statement from my page? There is a line with the text "" which links to the declined statement.

Regards

Martin Hoggm2 (talk) 09:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Hoggm2, no worries and welcome to Wikipedia. Yes your user page needs no approval, in general all pages under you user name (your user page, talk page, sandbox and subpages) are yours to use within reason. See Wikipedia:User pages for more information for what you can and can't do on them.

To remove the "Submission declined" just edit the page and yes its the bit before the <!-- Do not remove this line! --> which was there only in context of being in the AFC draft area (as new users would submit articles then remove the {{AFC submission|...}} not knowing what it was. Things in double curly brackets { }} are templates. I've removed the templates for you see this. You'll probably have other questions as you start out, so I recommend the Wikipedia:Teahouse as lots of experienced editors try to assist people there. All the best KylieTastic (talk) 11:39, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kylie, Thank you, much appreciated.

Kind Regards Martin Hoggm2 (talk) 11:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi in Relation to Dr Sanhory wiki Page

Hi,

I have added an official link from WIPO world intellectual property , the patent states the invention and has all the details inside the patent , would that be accepted now?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarigpidecimal (talk • contribs) 11:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Tarigpidecimal, for articles to be included on Wikipedia they have to meet multiple policies but the main one is to meet the Wikipedia:Notability standard and in this case the Wikipedia:Notability (people). Just having a patent is not a notable thing - note that "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" (see WP:42). All the best KylieTastic (talk) 11:44, 19 June 2016 (UTC)