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:I think the removed sentence: {{tq|In addition, ETHZ "consistently ranks the top university in continental Europe"}} is not redundant to the world rankings because it is very different to them as it signifies first place repeatedly as opposed to number 20 or other worldwide. So it should be restored. [[User:Dr.K.|<span style="font-weight:600;font-family: arial;color: steelblue;font-size: 1em;">Dr.</span>]] [[User talk:Dr.K.|<span style="font-weight:600;font-family: arial;color: steelblue; font-size: 1em">K.</span>]] 21:26, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
:I think the removed sentence: {{tq|In addition, ETHZ "consistently ranks the top university in continental Europe"}} is not redundant to the world rankings because it is very different to them as it signifies first place repeatedly as opposed to number 20 or other worldwide. So it should be restored. [[User:Dr.K.|<span style="font-weight:600;font-family: arial;color: steelblue;font-size: 1em;">Dr.</span>]] [[User talk:Dr.K.|<span style="font-weight:600;font-family: arial;color: steelblue; font-size: 1em">K.</span>]] 21:26, 27 July 2016 (UTC)


: if the above is to be written think i would be equally important to write that "University of Zurich is ranked among the world's top universities". University of Zurich is Switzerlands highest ranked classical university. ETHZ is technically a technical university (which the name also implies) which means you can't study the classical subjects there. [[User:Beboj3140|Beboj3140]] ([[User talk:Beboj3140|talk]]) 22:20, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
: if the above is to be written then i believe it would be equally important to write that "University of Zurich is ranked among the world's top universities". University of Zurich is Switzerlands highest ranked classical university. ETHZ is technically a technical university (which the name also implies) which means you can't study the classical subjects there. [[User:Beboj3140|Beboj3140]] ([[User talk:Beboj3140|talk]]) 22:20, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

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European Union

When will Switzerland is going to join the European Union — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.127.41 (talk) 02:05, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly after the U.S. :-) Alex2006 (talk) 15:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Good one! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.114.28.119 (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTFORUM. --1990'sguy (talk) 17:54, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Federation VS confederation

I know that this might not be an issue worth posting on the talk page, but I'll do it anyway just in case. In the "Old Swiss Confederacy" subsection in the "History" section, there are a couple times where the Swiss Confederacy is referred as a "federation". Because Switzerland's government clearly was not a federation until 1798 at the earliest, is this just a mistake or an act of vandalism that was never reverted, or is there another reason why the confederacy is referred to a federation? --1990'sguy (talk) 06:35, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think, in general you are right, in this chapter you could replace federation with confederation. But eventually it is a question of language usage in the sense of: a confederation (loosly coupled states) is also a federation1 (general definition: somehow coupled states), the same way as a federation2 (specific definition: strongly coupled states with one federal constitution) is also a federation1 (general definition). Or when you speak about the concept, then the author uses federation1, when it refers to the particular Swiss one, one speaks about the confederation. But yes, you could replace it. -- ZH8000 (talk) 13:49, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your explanation. I changed the wording anyway so any misunderstanding would be avoided. --1990'sguy (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved from my talkpage

I have moved this message from my talkpage. Dr. K. 14:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Switzerland

Regarding ETH it is a technical university try visiting there homepage and see the actual name spelled out. They also dont have subjects like Law, Medicin, religion, economics and psychology.

Regarding international reputation of the two technical universities, then they are not more famous than for example university of Zurich which is a member of "League of European Research" together with Oxford and Cambridge amongst others. And university of Zurich is just as highly ranked according to many rankings (ranked 54 in the world according to the prestigious ARWU) and is considered the best place to study fields like Law, medicin and economy amongst other fields in Switzerland.

There is no current sources (no footnote) to the statement that st. gallen and the other school is the leaders in business. I've just checked for my self and others are just as highly ranked in that field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beboj3140 (talkcontribs) 14:30, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my last three edits at the article where I supplied reliable sources to support these statements on top of the ones already existing in the article. Also the reliable source calls ETH a "top university" not a "top technical university". Try reading the reliable source that I added to that effect. If there are other universities in Switzerland as good as these you can add them, but do not remove the existing ones which are supported by reliable sources. Dr. K. 14:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
but you have to be aware that i can easily find rankings contradicting to those you have found since 1000 exist therefore such things should not be on the page and is commercializing. also calling ETH an university is misleading since it it not an actual university. but fine i will find some sources and write Zurich is also a top university in the country and the leader in som fields

Resolving the debate over Swiss University Rankings in this article

As seen above, there has been some ongoing discussion and disagreement on the language, rankings and relative importance of two Swiss universities: the University of Zurich and the ETH Zurich. So I believe it's important to remind ALL editors that Wikipedia is NOT a battleground for people to advance their own personal opinions or agendas. Editors are reminded that edit-warring to advance your own personal favorite universities over other universities, is not acceptable here and violates Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Also, those edits will likely be reverted anyway and persistent violations of those policies and guidelines will likely result in those editors being blocked. So please keep all your personal views about your favorite - or disliked - university out of your editing on this project.

Also remember, that any personal information you believe you have about those universities, doesn't matter. Per WP:NOR Wikipedia would cease to function if every editor could act as if they are an expert on the subjects of articles. This is why we require reliable sources. So please, no more arguments - or edits - based on what you believe is your personal knowledge of any of these universities. So either find good, independent and reliable sources - or please refrain from making those edits. Again, no agendas while editing!

To that end, I have removed redundant references to both universities. The rankings are listed and the sources all remain intact. That is more than sufficient. You must trust Wikipedia readers to see those rankings and appreciate BOTH schools and know that both schools rank high internationally, according to sources. This is not the place to advance or settle rivalries between universities.

Hopefully this will satisfy all editors. If not, rather than changing the article, please just express your concerns here and we'll discuss them until we find a satisfactory conclusion or at least reach some consensus. Thanks! X4n6 (talk) 06:38, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think the removed sentence: In addition, ETHZ "consistently ranks the top university in continental Europe" is not redundant to the world rankings because it is very different to them as it signifies first place repeatedly as opposed to number 20 or other worldwide. So it should be restored. Dr. K. 21:26, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
if the above is to be written then i believe it would be equally important to write that "University of Zurich is ranked among the world's top universities". University of Zurich is Switzerlands highest ranked classical university. ETHZ is technically a technical university (which the name also implies) which means you can't study the classical subjects there. Beboj3140 (talk) 22:20, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]