Talk:Heating, ventilation, and air conditioning

HVAC is NOT widely known to non-American English speakers

It should be spelled out in the main title, after which the abbreviation can be used. There is no need whatsoever for the Oxford comma, as no confusion could conceivably result. A merge is an excellent idea - currently it's all very bitty and unhelpful to the general reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 (talk) 09:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Heat load

Could someone discuss the term heat load (heating load). Jim Derby (talk) 12:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Heat load is a calculation based upon the size of a room and the size of the air conditioner needed to control the temperature in that space. The term heat load identifies the amount of heat that must be displaced with cool air from a room in a given period of time to meet the user's needs. Calculations are required in each space, as all spaces are different in size and thermal properties. The calculations may be done using software or done manually by any licensed and experienced HVAC technician. Pete Pharris of Above All Heating and Air Conditioning, Proper Heat Load Calculations — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laramp (talk • contribs) 01:02, 28 August 2015

General cleanup

Since this article is only listed as class C (but of medium to high importance), I did my best to turn the wall of text into (hopefully) clear sections and paragraphs. I removed only very little text, mostly I just re-ordered the existing paragraphs. Noggo (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I went through the article again, but there's still lots to do. Since there is much overlapping/redundant information, I started to carefully take bits and pieces out and moved them to other articles, if they didn't already exist there. In general, a short explanation should remain here (to provide the whole picture), but not every last little detail needs to be explained in this article. IMHO, that's what the other articles (e.g. refrigeration cycle, heat pump, etc.) are for. The difficult thing of course is to know how much can be taken away safely. Noggo (talk) 16:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I think you're on the right track. This article should be an overall survey, with brief summaries and Wikilinks to more-detailed coverage in other articles. I am on the verge of releasing an HVAC info-bar template, which should help readers and editors locate the many articles related to this subject. There will be a lot of cleanup work to reduce unnecessary overlaps in coverage, and to fill gaps that will become more apparent. Reify-tech (talk) 18:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

New Template:HVAC

I have just released a new Template:HVAC, and added it to the bottom of the HVAC article. The template's purpose is to provide an overview of all Wikipedia articles related to the subject, and to allow quick navigation among them. Another purpose is to make it easier to see all the HVAC-related articles, so that they can be reorganized, coordinated, and improved. Please look at the template and (politely) let me know what you think, before I roll it out more generally to all the articles listed in it.

As you review the articles, you may notice that some of them partially overlap or appear to be redundant (for example, Forced-air gas and Heating system). Part of the purpose of this template is to reveal these overlaps (and also gaps in coverage). Do not remove apparently-redundant articles from this template. Instead, tag the articles themselves for merge or deletion, as appropriate. Only after the changes are complete should you remove the now-obsolete articles from the template.

This is only a first draft version of the template, so please feel free to add to the template any HVAC articles I somehow missed. The subcategories in the template are also a first try, and ideas for improvement are welcome.

Further discussion should be at Template talk:HVAC, so I will copy a version of this message over there. In the absence of a WP:WIKIPROJECT for HVAC, I suggest using that new Talk page as a place to discuss the overall cleanup efforts. Reify-tech (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Definition "Geothermal heat pump"

The section "Geothermal heat pump" currently has a box "confusing or unclear" attached to it. However, in the article Geothermal heat pump#Differing terms and definitions the term is explained. Is the information there correct? If so, we could remove the box here. Noggo (talk) 14:01, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

The text in the section didn't seem at all confused, but the term is admittedly ambiguous. I changed it to "ground source heat pump", a synonym that per Ghits is about equally common and is less ambiguous with geothermal power. VQuakr (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 18 September 2016

• HVAC → Heating, ventilation and air conditioning
• Template:HVAC → Template:Heating, ventilation and air conditioning

– Complete name, common and much easier tu understand than the abbreviation (jargon). Geny S. Soboes (talk) 18:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:CONCISE. HVAC is an extremely common initialism; not really jargon. Per WP:NAMINGCRITERIA, our guideline for recognizability is "The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize." I think we hit that target with the current title. We already use redirects to assist with navigation. VQuakr (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose - Per WP:CONCISE and WP:COMMONNAME. HVAS is used overwhelmingly more in RS. Meatsgains (talk) 01:58, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Meatsgains - What is "RS"? EuroSong ^talk 18:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

• Support - I've never heard of "HVAC": is it an obscure term only used by people actually working in the air conditioning industry? It's not a commonly-recognised term. Wikipedia is for everyone, not just specialists in particular subjects. Contrary to what a couple of people said above, it is NOT common. Or maybe it only is common in the USA?? There's another thread above which mentions this. However Wikipedia is an international encyclopædia, not just an American one. We should use article titles which make sense to everyone, not just people in one country. As it is, the title is totally obscure. EuroSong ^talk 18:38, 21 September 2016 (UTC)