Talk:Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

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Conflation of terms legal & illegal

The article addresses a memorandum which grants protected status to illegal-immigrant children because legal immigrant children do not need such a policy due to their adherence to immigration law.

As a result, I have clarified the status of the individuals addressed instead of allowing vagueness and conflation to obscure the article's topic. SumaiyaJ (talk) 02:02, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Merger Discussion

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a

Merge Proposal and / or Redirect. Please do not modify it.
The result of the request for the Proposed Merger of Trail of Dreams 2010 into this talk page's article was:

Consensus Reached–Awaiting Merge.

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Request received to merge Trail of Dreams 2010 with/into Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals; November 2015 tagged. Discuss here. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 05:41, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Strong Merge

Merge Trail of Dreams 2010 with/into Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, as it was a supportive campaign/activity by four people in support of DACA and serves to help identify the continued efforts to pass DACA, which activists hope will lead to permanent residency and eventually citizenship. TalkAbout (talk) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

If there is such a strong connection, then why is Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals not even mentioned in the Trail of Dreams 2010 article? Indeed, how can a walk in the year 2010 have been in support of a memorandum authored by the Obama administration on June 15, 2012? – Wbm1058 (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

STRONG Merge or Delete!

The activities were directed towards the goal of Deferred Action by Homeland Security/ICE so that children brought here as children would receive protection which eventually led to DACA (which was worked on by many organization). If this one activity by four people was that significant there would be a Trail of Dreams 2010 ACT, which there is not. Also, the article denotes the Trail of Tears as 'another journey' which it was not, it was forced relocation/genocide 'causing the expulsion or death of a substantial part of the Native Americans then living in the southeastern United States.' PEACE OUT TalkAbout (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

@TalkAbout: I don't understand why you want to merge this article, which appears to be about a walk to support the passing of the DREAM Act, into something that seems a bit unrelated—Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals—rather than into the DREAM Act article. Regards, Wbm1058 (talk) 19:26, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge into Dream Act or Deletion. I am fine with merger into the Dream Act under activities by Famous Dream Act Activists -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Act#Famous_DREAM_Act_Activists The legislation that passed was DACA (White House way to offer relief), the legislation for the Dream Act may continue to gain some traction/support by House Speaker John Boehner in recent days and ultimately see passage:" A Republican version of the Dream Act has the support of House Speaker John Boehner, who said Wednesday the bill is "about basic fairness" for children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents, The Hill reported."'Trail of Dreams 2010' is a campaign within a movement and only by four people, that in many places list themselves as 'famous'. There is already a place here: Famous DREAM Act Activists via article on Dream Act.

TalkAbout (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Wbm1058 Thanks for pointing out the Dream Act as being more relevant, stand corrected, especially as it is a bill that is still in process and not dead. Peace Out TalkAbout (talk) 20:36, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, I tagged the articles. But if you want to propose deletion, see WP:AFD. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Wbm1058 Thank you, Merge seems the most sensible way, under the Dream Act with its own heading or into another appropriate one. Peace Out

TalkAbout (talk) 00:46, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 01:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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• Note: it seems like the consensus is that a merge between Trail of Dreams 2010 and DREAM Act makes more sense -- which I agree with -- so I'm going to remove the merge tag from this page. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Additions

Hello! I just wanted to add some information to this article such as renewal stats, advance parole information and possibly rearrange some of the format. Pedrogaytan12 (talk) 01:30, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

"Illegal" vs. "undocumented"

Here's a place to discuss the frequent back-and-forth changes between "illegal aliens" and "undocumented workers." Joyous! | Talk 18:49, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia should be free of policial bias, and call things what they are. Everybody knows that undocumented is the word for illegal alien. Wikipedia acknowledges this too by redirecting undocumented alien -> illegal immigration. So why should the article text be different? 24.6.186.56 (talk) 19:13, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

When you find yourself typing the phrase "everybody knows", apparently they don't. 24.182.239.225 (talk) 22:42, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

If people can't be illegal, they can certainly be criminal.67.8.239.238 (talk) 23:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

possible sources

Living the dream : new immigration policies and the lives of undocumented Latino youth Presidential executive action on immigration : overview and issues -- phoebe / (talk to me) 01:29, 28 December 2016 (UTC)