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Potomu chto v istochnikah upominaniy pro Kiev kuda bolshe ebanyi hahol <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/37.146.119.40|37.146.119.40]] ([[User talk:37.146.119.40#top|talk]]) 07:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Potomu chto v istochnikah upominaniy pro Kiev kuda bolshe ebanyi hahol <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/37.146.119.40|37.146.119.40]] ([[User talk:37.146.119.40#top|talk]]) 07:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:"Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city. Just like English uses the names Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Belgrade, Copenhagen, Cologne, Venice, Athens, etc. None of which match the native names for those cities. Also, the government of Kiev (or the entirety of Ukraine) does not have jurisdiction beyond their own borders and, thus, cannot legislate what the English speaking nations of the world say. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 11:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
:"Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city. Just like English uses the names Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Belgrade, Copenhagen, Cologne, Venice, Athens, etc. None of which match the native names for those cities. Also, the government of Kiev (or the entirety of Ukraine) does not have jurisdiction beyond their own borders and, thus, cannot legislate what the English speaking nations of the world say. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 11:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
::""Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city." ....and has been such for hundreds of years.
::""Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city." ....and has been such for hundreds of years. --[[User:Jamieli|Jamieli]] ([[User talk:Jamieli|talk]]) 12:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
:: There's a permanent sub-discussion on the naming of this article, noted when you edit talk, [[Talk:Kiev/naming]]. My position is once the U.S. BGN database (very carefully researched geographic names database, includes common English usage) goes "Kyiv", we can rename the article. Currently:
:: There's a permanent sub-discussion on the naming of this article, noted when you edit talk, [[Talk:Kiev/naming]]. My position is once the U.S. BGN database (very carefully researched geographic names database, includes common English usage) goes "Kyiv", we can rename the article. Currently:
::*'''Kiev (Conventional - C)'''
::*'''Kiev (Conventional - C)'''

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Current status: Former good article nominee

Founding date inconsistency

It would seem citation 2 and citation 29 (and the statements referring to them) are fundamentally at odds. Is this something that can be resolved? Brainchasm (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is "Kiev" still being used over "Kyiv?"

I mean, it's even posted in the page itself that the Kyiv city government demanded that "Kyiv" be used over "Kiev" due to the incorrectness of "Kiev."

Why has nobody changed this yet, and should it be changed now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordMathe2 (talk • contribs) 03:40, 14 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potomu chto v istochnikah upominaniy pro Kiev kuda bolshe ebanyi hahol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.146.119.40 (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city. Just like English uses the names Moscow, Prague, Warsaw, Belgrade, Copenhagen, Cologne, Venice, Athens, etc. None of which match the native names for those cities. Also, the government of Kiev (or the entirety of Ukraine) does not have jurisdiction beyond their own borders and, thus, cannot legislate what the English speaking nations of the world say. --Khajidha (talk) 11:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
""Kiev" is being used because it is the common English name for this city." ....and has been such for hundreds of years. --Jamieli (talk) 12:11, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There's a permanent sub-discussion on the naming of this article, noted when you edit talk, Talk:Kiev/naming. My position is once the U.S. BGN database (very carefully researched geographic names database, includes common English usage) goes "Kyiv", we can rename the article. Currently:
  • Kiev (Conventional - C)
  • Kyiv (Approved - N)
  • Kief (Variant - V)
  • Kiew (Variant - V)
  • Kijew (Variant - V)
  • Kijów (Variant - V)
  • Kiyev (Variant - V)
  • Kiyiv (Variant - V)
  • Kyyiv (Variant - V)
  • Київ (Variant Non-Roman Script - VS)
Hope this helps. VєсrumЬа ►TALK 03:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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