User talk:Flyboyrob2112

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Isobric process

W is work done to the system not work DONE BY the system. It has to be defined one way. They chose this. Boomer7777777777777 (talk) 02:49, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

May 2017

Hello, I'm Dennis Bratland. I wanted to let you know that some of your recent contributions to Franchesca Ramsey have been reverted or removed because they could seem to be defamatory or libellous. Take a look at our welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

There's nothing defamatory or libelous about quoting her. Read your own damn link. Flyboyrob2112 (talk) 20:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Definition of racism

"Restored my edit. Her claim is much more controversial than "plants get energy from sunlight", and thus notable"

The "racism = prejudice + power" definition of racism is very commonly used (you can find it in the racism article too). I bet if you took an introduction to racism course, you'd hear the same thing she said in her video. For that reason, it's an unnotable detail. --ChiveFungi (talk) 19:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

It's not the definition of racism. Institutional racism, yes. But claiming that this is the actual definition of racism is nothing more than a transparent attempt to absolve bigoted minorities of any responsibility for their rhetoric. Flyboyrob2112 (talk)

It's irrelevant whether Ramsey expressed opinions that are correct or not. You cannot add negative statements about a living person without very strong sourcing. No matter how many downvotes a YouTube video gets, the fact is that zero respectable, mainstream experts have called Ramsey any of the names you're throwing around. The video in question hasn't been the subject of any controversy in reliable sources. See WP:RS. Social media posts, anonymous likes, and anything of that kind carries no weight.

Note that the article Racism addresses the question you are concerned with. You don't need to add defamatory content to bring these issues to light. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't make any value judgments about her statements in the article. It's literally just a line repeating her claim. Whether it's negative or not is up to the reader's interpretation. The fact that you think adding a literal statement of hers to her article is defamation is rather telling. Stop edit warring. Flyboyrob2112 (talk) 23:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Also, I think you need to carefully re-watch the video in question. Ramsey makes a clear distinction between 'racism' and 'racial prejudice'. Your edits aren't even an accurate representation of Ramsey's uncontroversial statements. But even if they were, you must cite a third party reliable source.-Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

May 2017

Please do not add defamatory content to Wikipedia, as you did to Franchesca Ramsey, especially if it involves living persons. Thank you. Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Franchesca Ramsey. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Please discuss this at Talk:Franchesca Ramsey. Working out a consensus is much more realistic than trying win an edit war over a WP:BLP issue.

Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:43, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Nope, it's referenced and quite adequately so. There's no consensus to be had with you. Flyboyrob2112 (talk) 23:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Franchesca Ramsey. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:47, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Franchesca Ramsey. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.  GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:49, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Repeated reversion of adequately sourced material on false grounds of libel. Editor involved in reverting my contribution 3+ times were not warned or blocked. Flyboyrob2112 (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Nevertheless, you were edit warring so your block is appropriate. PhilKnight (talk) 00:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

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Addressing the points in Talk: Franchesca Ramsey

1. This isn't controversial content. She said it. It's indisputable.
2. There's nothing about that policy that prohibits using a primary source in this matter.
3. It's common among ivory tower academics and minorities who want to be racist without being labeled as such. Regardless, she still said it.
4. If you don't like that specific word, change it. That's not a reason to revert the entire edit.
5. I don't claim in the article that there's a controversy, so there's no need for it to be sourced.

Flyboyrob2112 (talk) 00:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I encourage you to join the current Franchesca Ramsey discussion, regarding Dennis' edits again. Ghoul flesh • talk 01:01, 1 July 2017 (UTC)