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Oldest in Britain

<<== Oldest in Britain ==

Is there any reason it isn't considered a reliable source? Has there ever been an incident where it gave information that was inaccurate?>>

Moved from my talk page.

It's not considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. I'm not sure why. Wikipedia:WikiProject World's Oldest People just says that it is not reliable. RightGot (talk) 20:03, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So when you are already here. Why don't you first of all answer the question one above why you removed Kaoru Ueda without giving a reason? --Dangermouse600 (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Was I the one who removed Kaoru Ueda from the list? I can't remember doing that. RightGot (talk) 00:04, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You should stop editing when you can't remember what you are doing! --Dangermouse600 (talk) 23:44, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is not considered a reliable because it is self-published. It is in the same category as the 110 club and the gerontology Wikia: they are essentially fan sites which do not require the same standards regarding sources as Wikipedia. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 03:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

DerbyCountyinNZ is correct. The summary here by User:Ca2james explains best why it's not reliable as does WP:BLPSPS CommanderLinx (talk) 06:06, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jeanne Bot birth date

Should we use 14 January as her birth date based on this forum: http://centenaires-francais.forumactif.org/t18-preuves-de-vie-sur-les-personnes-de-110-ans-et-plus because it's the only source that gave a birth date or should we use 18 January based on the publication date of this article: https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/societe/jeanne-bot-fete-ses-112-ans-perpignan-1484735863 --Dorglorg (talk) 02:52, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Upon very closely reviewing this source (https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/societe/jeanne-bot-fete-ses-112-ans-perpignan-1484735863) there does seem to be enough reasonable doubt about her date of birth that assigning a specific date based on it is arguably OR. Forums are not reliable sources, so any information contained in them, whether accurate or not, is invalid for the purposes of Wikipedia. Unless a specific reliable source can be found for Jeanne Bot's age, I believe she needs to be removed. Newshunter12 (talk) 03:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no reliable source which explicitly states a date of birth or birthday then she should be removed. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 05:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't we use January 1905 as her birth date?--Dorglorg (talk) 12:17, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed Jeanne Bot per consensus. Newshunter12 (talk) 18:50, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well can we?--Dorglorg (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. Everyone on all of these lists has and has to have an exact birthdate. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:16, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's better to have someone with only their month of birth than to not have that person and the article be missing data. Is there any set rule that they must have an exact birth date?--Dorglorg (talk) 01:36, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, AFAIK it has always been required for this article. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 02:35, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article is going to be missing data regardless since there is an estimated 600 or so living supercentenarians so removing one more doesn't really hurt. CommanderLinx (talk) 07:17, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oldest in Hungary

Margit Kovács is not the oldest person in Hungary, even the article cited states that she holds the record only in Bács-Kiskun county. The oldest is a 114-year-old lady whose name and exact birth date is not mentioned in the article. – Alensha ^talk 17:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Jeanne Bot (born 01/14/1905), Jeanne Lara (born 04/01/1906), Marie Dhauyre (born 10/27/1906) and Yvonne Guillaumin (born 10/28/1906) are four clearly referenced French supercentenarians who don't appear in the list. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_grands_centenaires_fran%C3%A7ais for references. 86.218.152.222 (talk) 09:19, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lucile Randon

There's a very interesting article about her in Aletiea. She's a sister of The [[Daughters of Charity Williamb (talk) 10:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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 Jeanne Bot (born 01/14/1905), Jeanne Lara (born 04/01/1906), Marie Dhauyre (born 10/27/1906) and Yvonne Guillaumin (born 10/28/1906) are four clearly referenced French supercentenarians who don't appear in the list. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_grands_centenaires_fran%C3%A7ais for references. [[Special:Contributions/86.218.152.222|86.218.152.222]] ([[User talk:86.218.152.222|talk]]) 09:19, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
+==Lucile Randon ==
+There's a very interesting article about her in Aletiea. She's a sister of The [[Daughters of Charity [[User:Williamb|Williamb]] ([[User talk:Williamb|talk]]) 10:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)