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President / Eternal President

Would it be correct to still list him as holding the office of Presidency, eternal or otherwise? The 2016 Constitution makes mention of him and Kim Jong-Il as Eternal Leaders, it does not mention the Eternal President of the Republic. --Tærkast (Discuss) 18:55, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bad use of English

"From North Korea establishment" and "has been" referring to a period that has now elapsed (should read "was") make clear that this article was not written by a native English-speaker. I hope someone who knows English well can consult the author and make the necessary changes.188.230.240.75 (talk) 12:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony John Burton

Will you accept Three bilion to step away and enjoy your life with no complications. ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.134.90 (talk) 01:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony John Burton

Will you accept Three bilion to step away and enjoy your life with no complications. ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.134.90 (talk) 01:40, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

North Korean belief origins

North Koreans believe Kim-il-Sung is an "almighty god" who "created the world" in seven days as a divine spirit millions of years ago, and came to Earth as a human in 1912 as a messianic figure.^[1]^[2]^: 12.

I have removed this. The citations have just been copied from the information about his birth later in this article. The Daily News article says nothing like that. I don't have access to the book, but I don't believe it says anything like that either. I couldn't find any such statement searching through Google books. I've never seen this claim in other sources, and I've never seen this claim in North Korean propaganda. It seems that this is either a hoax or a personal theory.--Jack Upland (talk) 16:16, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Soviet Officer Reveals Secrets of Mangyongdae". Daily NK. Archived from the original on 11 February 2014. Retrieved 15 April 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
^ Baik Bong (1973). Kim il Sung: Volume I: From Birth to Triumphant Return to Homeland. Beirut, Lebanon: Dar Al-talia.

Improving the level of NPOV in this article

This article appears subject to regular revisions that are biased in favor of the North Korean government's interpretation of events, and that express unsourced opinion as fact. I realize Wikipedia has guidelines on how such issues are best addressed but I haven't read them lately. If someone could provide links to them that would be helpful.

Here is one example of the problem:

"North Korean history emphasizes that the United States had previously invaded and occupied the South, allegedly with the intention to push further north and into the Asian continent. Based on these assumptions, it portrays the KPA invasion of the South as a counter-attack.[47]"

The reference provided for this sentence is "Ho Jong-ho et al. (1977) The US Imperialists Started the Korean War Archived 29 April 2011 at the Wayback Machine." Clearly, the title of this document shows the bias. Also, it's more than 40 years old. There must be hundreds of more up to date sources that are more NPOV and factual.

I could just delete the sentence but that may be reverted. So I'm asking for input on what should be done. Can the sentence be re-written in a way that shows that it's the view of one party in a geopolitical conflict, and differs from that held by the United Nations then and now? EvidenceFairy (talk) 00:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's sort of weird to complain about unsourced, biased, non-factual content, and then give an example that isn't. That passage clearly states that is how "North Korean history" "portrays" the war. The source is a North Korean publication that was revised in 1993 and posted on the web by the North Korean government as recently as 2011. It is a valid source in the context, and the passage is accurate. The article uses a range of sources, including Rogue Regime and The Black Book of Communism. If claims in the article are unsourced, I think it is OK to delete them or place a "citation needed" ^{[citation needed]} tag on the relevant sentence. With regard to the regular revisions, I think that is the nature of Wikipedia. We get everything from propaganda (both sides), hoaxes, and vandalism...--Jack Upland (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your opinion but I think you didn't understand what I was asking. Each to their own.EvidenceFairy (talk) 21:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[dailynk.com-1] "Soviet Officer Reveals Secrets of Mangyongdae". Daily NK. Archived from the original on 11 February 2014. Retrieved 15 April 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

[BaikBong1-2] Baik Bong (1973). Kim il Sung: Volume I: From Birth to Triumphant Return to Homeland. Beirut, Lebanon: Dar Al-talia.

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 I could just delete the sentence but that may be reverted. So I'm asking for input on what should be done. Can the sentence be re-written in a way that shows that it's the view of one party in a geopolitical conflict, and differs from that held by the United Nations then and now? [[User:EvidenceFairy|EvidenceFairy]] ([[User talk:EvidenceFairy|talk]]) 00:34, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 :It's sort of weird to complain about unsourced, biased, non-factual content, and then give an example that isn't. That passage clearly states that is how "North Korean history" "portrays" the war. The source is a North Korean publication that was revised in 1993 and posted on the web by the North Korean government as recently as 2011. It is a valid source in the context, and the passage is accurate. The article uses a range of sources, including ''Rogue Regime'' and ''The Black Book of Communism''. If claims in the article are unsourced, I think it is OK to delete them or place a "citation needed" {{cn}} tag on the relevant sentence. With regard to the regular revisions, I think that is the nature of Wikipedia. We get everything from propaganda (both sides), hoaxes, and vandalism...--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 08:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
+::Thank you for your opinion but I think you didn't understand what I was asking. Each to their own.[[User:EvidenceFairy|EvidenceFairy]] ([[User talk:EvidenceFairy|talk]]) 21:55, 20 February 2018 (UTC)