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Possible conflict of interest

During March 2018, @Ian.Collard10:provided about 12 edits to this article, some of which were reverted (see Revision history). The user name implies a connection to one of the members of the trio and hence may constitute a conflict of interest. I ask the editor to reply on this talkpage.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi please reveal your connection to the band and your real name. I believe you are related to one of the band members Ian.Collard10 (talk) 02:04, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please check your facts. The band did not cease in 2011. Ian.Collard10 (talk) 11:26, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of edits in September 2018

@Ian.Collard10::I have reverted your recent edits (see here). The content you removed was verified by reliable source(s), you also removed reference tabs, which show the source being used.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ian.Collard10::I have reverted your recent edits. Once again, the content you removed was verified by reliable source(s). You also added new material which was not supported by any suitable references.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 12:44, 2 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

please refrain from adding false information to this page. Can you please reveal your identity, your relationship to the band and your “reliable sources”? Ian.Collard10 (talk) 02:08, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no relationship to the band. The reliable sources I have used are all shown in the article. Please do not continue your disruptive edits: do not change content, which has been verified and replace it with content with no reliable sources.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:36, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shaidar Cuebier you are clearly associated with the band. Can you please get your facts right if you insist on continuous disruptive edits. Can you please stop this horrible troll behaviour and reveal your real identity Ian.Collard10 (talk) 09:59, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please discuss which "facts" you consider to be incorrect? Can you please provide reliable sources for your disruptive editing? Please do not add contentious material without provided such sources.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:18, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is incorrect that the band broke up in 2011

Comments on this page about the band breaking up in 2011 are incorrect. The band continued and celebrated there 20 years together at performance att the Spotted Mallard in 2015. Ian.Collard10 (talk) 12:10, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ian McFarlane in his second edition of Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop (2017) on page 105 states, "Collard Greens & Gravy broke up in 2011 and the singer formed Three Kings..."^[1] Do you have a reliable source for your claim?

^ McFarlane, Ian (2017). "Encyclopedia entry for 'Collard Greens & Gravy'". The Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop. Jenkins, Jeff (Foreword) (2nd ed.). Gisborne, Vic: Third Stone Press. p. 105. ISBN 978-0-9953856-0-3.

shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an article written about the bands 20 th anniversary concert http://www.beat.com.au/music/collard-greens-gravy Ian.Collard10 (talk) 23:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reference is already in the article per <ref name="Bylok-Collard">{{cite news | last = Bylok-Collard | first = Avrille | date = | title = Collard Greens and Gravy | work = Beat Magazine | publisher = Furst Media | url = http://www.beat.com.au/music/collard-greens-gravy | accessdate = 1 September 2018 }}</ref>. It is used to support the original line-up and confirm a quote by Collard on the meaning of the group's name.

It mentions a 20th anniversary concert, however there are three problems in verifying the claim that the band were an ongoing concern from 2011 to 2016:

I can't find any date for the article: when was it published?
Was the Spotted Mallard gig a one-off performance for an otherwise disbanded/retired group?
The author's name is Avrille Bylok-Collard, given that last name, is this person related to the band's lead singer? If so, this could be a conflict of interest.

Given these concerns, I believe McFarlane to be more reliable of the two sources. This is insufficient to change his contention that they disbanded in 2011.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The writer is not related to the singer t This was not a one off performance. Here is anadd for a 2014 gig http://www.thepostofficehotel.com.au/gigs/2014/10/17/collard-greens-gravy Ian.Collard10 (talk) 07:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[McFarlane-1] McFarlane, Ian (2017). "Encyclopedia entry for 'Collard Greens & Gravy'". The Encyclopedia of Australian Rock and Pop. Jenkins, Jeff (Foreword) (2nd ed.). Gisborne, Vic: Third Stone Press. p. 105. ISBN 978-0-9953856-0-3.

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 :# The author's name is Avrille Bylok-Collard, given that last name, is this person related to the band's lead singer? If so, this could be a conflict of interest.
 :Given these concerns, I believe McFarlane to be more reliable of the two sources. This is insufficient to change his contention that they disbanded in 2011.[[User:Shaidar cuebiyar|''shaidar cuebiyar'']] ([[User talk:Shaidar cuebiyar|talk]]) 04:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
+The writer is not related to the singer t
+This was not a one off performance. Here is anadd for a 2014 gig
+http://www.thepostofficehotel.com.au/gigs/2014/10/17/collard-greens-gravy [[User:Ian.Collard10|Ian.Collard10]] ([[User talk:Ian.Collard10|talk]]) 07:32, 4 September 2018 (UTC)