Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 October 1

October 1

Category:Fictional suicides

• Propose renaming Category:Fictional suicides to Category:Fictional characters who committed suicide

Nominator's rationale: Better description of category content. For example, Romeo is a character, not an act. 89.139.69.176 (talk) 22:21, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Fictional regicides

• Propose renaming Category:Fictional regicides to Category:Fictional characters who committed regicide

Nominator's rationale: This is a better description of the category content - for example, King Claudius is a character who murdered his king, not the act of doing it. 89.139.69.176 (talk) 22:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Fictional filicides

• Propose renaming Category:Fictional filicides to Category:Fictional characters who committed filicide
• Propose renaming Category:Fictional fratricides to Category:Fictional characters who committed fratricide
• Propose renaming Category:Fictional mariticides to Category:Fictional characters who committed mariticide
• Propose renaming Category:Fictional matricides to Category:Fictional characters who committed matricide

Nominator's rationale: This is the actual content of the categories, as well as matching the name of the parent category. 89.139.69.176 (talk) 21:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Pro basketball players from Monrovia high School

• Propose deleting Category:Pro basketball players from Monrovia high School - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: Wrong namespace for article (article would be speediable anyway), and as a category, little to no potential for population beyond 2, and little to no encyclopedic value. —swpb^{T go beyond} 19:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Sitcoms without laugh tracks

• Propose deleting Category:Sitcoms without laugh tracks - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: Created by a banned user. Way too many sitcoms don't use a laugh track for this category to be relevant. Additionally, sitcoms filmed infront of a live studio audience would fall into a gray area. JDDJS (talk) 14:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Social economists

• Propose deleting Category:Social economists - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: delete, we do not have an article on Social economics except as a redirect to Socioeconomics and I think that neither of the articles would belong in Category:Socioeconomics. No need to merge, the articles are already in the tree of Category:Economists by nationality. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Delete I could see a hypothetical biography subcategory under the Category:Socioeconomics tree, but this is under the Category:Social economy tree and I'm unclear on the inclusion criteria. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:36, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
• Keep. Social economics is not the same as socioeconomics. It is a field in its own right. See for example here. Sooner or later there should be an article on social economics.--Ipigott (talk) 08:54, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ipigott: If you want to take a shot at creating a main article and find 5 biography articles that fit into that description, I'm more than happy to change my vote now or be open to recreating the category later. My only concern is with the category going before that main article that will establish that inclusion criteria within Wikpedia. RevelationDirect (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Perhaps with Rosiestep's assistance?--Ipigott (talk) 10:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Based on this link, it looks like social economics is a synonym of Behavioral economics. However neither of the two biographies in this category belongs in that area. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:53, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 02:21, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ℯxplicit 04:13, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Vishnuvardhan Films

• Propose deleting Category:Vishnuvardhan Films - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: An actor is not a defining characteristic for a film. (I know there's a guideline somewhere that talks about this but I can't find it at the moment. I'm sure some CfD regular can cite it!) Pichpich (talk) 02:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - see below. Oculi (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you, this discussion on John Wayne was exactly my thought. I'm emptying the contents of this category. I will set this as mark to deletion.

Smjalageri (talk) 10:54, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete per the John Wayne category and a long-standing precedent not to have categories for actors. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Category:Rajkumar Films

• Propose deleting Category:Rajkumar Films - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: An actor is not a defining characteristic for a film. (I know there's a guideline somewhere that talks about this but I can't find it at the moment. I'm sure some CfD regular can cite it!) Pichpich (talk) 02:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

• Case for retaining Category:Rajkumar Films and Category:Vishnuvardhan Films

Lead Actor uniquely identifies the movie and that becomes a unique entity. Categories for the lead actor will help masses to identify the Wiki Page & access them with ease.

The categories for 2 Cultural Stalwarts of Kannada Filmdom were much needed and I have created them. Not just with respect to Film Noir, my intent was to spark adding categories for Kannada Literature, Sports, Politics and Economy. Movie Categories for Dr. Rajkumar & Dr. Vishnuvardhan are just the beginning.
In fact, I have modified the category names from Dr Rajkumar to Rajkumar, owing to guidance in Manual of Style. Thanks are due to @Zchrykng @Zchrykng: and @Chrissymad @Chrissymad: Smjalageri (talk) 04:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I look forward to debate on this.

• Delete - such categories were all deleted long ago, eg here. There is already a fine list: Rajkumar filmography. Oculi (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per the John Wayne category and a long-standing precedent not to have categories for actors. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:36, 1 October 2018 (UTC)