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Looks like a vandalism only account — <span style="font-family:Helvetica">[[User:Anakimi|<b style="color:silver;text-shadow:-1px 0px black">Ana</b><b style="color:#900C3F">kimi</b>]]</span><sub>[[User talk:Anakimi|<i style="color:#dd163a;font-family:Courier">Holler</i>]]</sub> 19:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC) |
Looks like a vandalism only account. Can you help? — <span style="font-family:Helvetica">[[User:Anakimi|<b style="color:silver;text-shadow:-1px 0px black">Ana</b><b style="color:#900C3F">kimi</b>]]</span><sub>[[User talk:Anakimi|<i style="color:#dd163a;font-family:Courier">Holler</i>]]</sub> 19:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Bosingwa - Reply
Even though I pinged you I come here with "additional thoughts",
problem solved I think, found reliable source with the EXACT season when new 5-match rule came into fruition (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/05/who-gets-premier-league-winners-medal), when googling found related stuff from The Sun, the Daily Mail, but I think those are deemed unreliable.
If you want to write any further, please report to the last message I have left the IP address. Glad to be of service, attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 09:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- No additional comments? --Quite A Character (talk) 20:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- No, the issue looks to have been settled. Thanks for your intervention. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:26, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
I thought I made the lead better, what you reverted to sounds like he still manages Barnet and hasn't retired per the BBC ref down below. Govvy (talk) 11:16, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- His position at Barnet since stepping down as manager is head of football. I think the lead should reflect that, and don't see there being too much confusion as to readers conflating that with the position of manager. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:43, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
One situation solved, another arises: if you play in previous cup rounds in England/Britain you don't get a medal, only those who take part (even if only on bench) in the final? In Portugal you do.
Obviously I'm going to have to trust you on this one. Nice reversion then, sorry for the inconvenience --Quite A Character (talk) 12:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- It depends on the competition. The regulations for the 2017/18 FA Cup state that "The Association shall present 40 medals to playing staff and officials of both Clubs in the Final". The regulations for the 2018/19 EFL Cup state that "the Management Committee shall present twenty-three souvenirs to the winning Club in the Final Tie; and twenty-three souvenirs to the losing Club in the Final Tie; comprising eighteen for the players". In reality, it's difficult to ascertain all the individuals who actually received a medal, as the clubs hands them out as they see fit without any public confirmation. My approach is to include the honours if the players were involved in the matchday squad for the final, or if there is a reliable source that states that they otherwise received a medal (see Alexander Hleb's 2010/11 League Cup medal, for example). Mattythewhite (talk) 16:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing that content and for letting me know what the issue was there. Obviously shows you how little I know about the actual subject; I'm more of an NFL fan myself ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Seattle Seahawks are the best!~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Go Seahawks! (Am I doing it right?) Mattythewhite (talk) 16:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Higuain
Need new protection on Higuain amid Chelsea speculation. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 17:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Semi-protected for one week. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:18, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Sorry
Hey just want to say sorry for ruining Kieran Dowell's page, i had my sandbox page and the real page mixed up :s I'll take more care next time. Lucasnake (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Untitled
@Mattythewhite stop changing Wikipedia articles that it took hours to make. Theweirdoman764 (talk) 12:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
I see your currently active, could you check and see if you could semi this page, or block the IP. As my edit summary states, the information the IP is adding has been added many times and removed, so a discussion is needed (I'll start a thread), but we need something (protection) to encourage the to come to the talk. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 17:58, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Discussion started. Also, just in case you're busy, I posted this to RFPP - FlightTime (open channel) 18:04, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think I have the necessary grasp of the issues raised, so I'll sit this one out. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- No problem, thanx anyway. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 21:57, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think I have the necessary grasp of the issues raised, so I'll sit this one out. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
RE: Ben Godfrey
The reason I removed North Yorkshire is because, to me at least, it is considered repetitive. It is pretty obvious that York is in Yorkshire and I personally don't think it needs to be stated. Samuel J Walker (talk) 21:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- It won't be obvious to many readers. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Really? I'd have thought if anyone wanted to know that desperately they'd look on the location's page. Samuel J Walker (talk) 21:52, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Grammatical assistance needed, I wager,
in this chap's latest achievement with Wolverhampton, I tried to clean up the best I could (this IP engages in needlessly - in my view, could be wrong - repeated wording (not to mention overlinking). Question: did my new version resulted in a not-so-clear reading? I don't think so, but you'll be the judge.
Attentively, thanks in advance --Quite A Character (talk) 09:20, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Looks fine, although I'm not sure about the use of "exploit". Mattythewhite (talk) 15:57, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Suggestions? I can accommodate (i was trying not to repeat "feat"/"achieve the feat"), of course (additional question: if i remove "exploit" altogether and do not replace it with anything, will sentence make sense? --Quite A Character (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think that would work. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:21, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Consider it done! --Quite A Character (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Not playing in the final does not mean that a player hasn't won a trophy. Why, when so many footballer's 'Honours' sections have unreferenced trophy wins, are you repealing clearly correct edits? If you continue to do act in this way, you may face a permanent ban from editing. You have been warned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MillsyOnWiki (talk • contribs) 22:14, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- What authority do you have to threaten me in this way? Mattythewhite (talk) 22:19, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
I saw you changed the colours on the France nav box, I was wondering what's the border colour on the France nav box? Govvy (talk) 00:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Red, to match the colour used on the France squad templates. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- aaa, no wonder it looks all one colour, I have a problem seeing red with my sight. Govvy (talk) 00:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
M. City - Bits and pieces
1 - Danilo (footballer, born July 1991): the Portuguese wiseass to the rescue once again (but in this case my knowledge of the language came in a bit handy), citation tags addressed and removed (don't mention it) :) Even if they now pose as inline refs, I would still keep BDFUTBOL and NFT as links for easy consultation (there's not a specific rule on repeating links, is there?), but of course I'm not going to revert anything in that aspect;
- MOS:LAYOUTEL recommends that "hyperlinks should not appear in the article's body text, nor should links used as references normally be duplicated in this [external links] section" (my bold). Mattythewhite (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
2 - Nicolás Otamendi (last addition): seriously, is that an honour (again, please note I did not remove anything)?
- I don't think it is, but when I removed it from another article recently I got a slap on the wrist. Maybe you will have better luck? Mattythewhite (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Attentively, continue the good work --Quite A Character (talk) 11:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Will WP:FOOTY item #2, let's see what inputs "emerge". --Quite A Character (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Otamendi/edit war
So why am I the one who is tagged with an edit war and no one else? So counterproductive and just extreme tactics used by a bully. Anyway, I have since put a note on Otamendi's talk page and have reverted the honour until the discussion is resolved.Rupert1904 (talk) 22:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Rupert1904: You're well on your way to get a block now and way past disruptive, Matty I should point out that PeeJay2K3 pretty much broke the 3RR rule also. Govvy (talk) 22:47, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Govvy: I'm the disruptive one? That is rich. You are all bullying up on me rather than having a grown up discussion. Please discuss on Otamendi's talk page where I laid out the discussion rather than revert my edits. Thanks. Rupert1904 (talk) 22:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- When I noticed what was going on PeeJay was still on three reverts, hence why I didn't send him the same notice. Mattythewhite (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Rupert1904: Bullying? About four different people disagree with your assessment of what an honour is and Matty is an admin, I am only going to report to him what I see of the issue. I have nothing else to say thank you. Govvy (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Govvy: If you have nothing to say then why enter the discussion at all? In disagreements, many people often "disagree". Just because more people have one opinion does not mean they are always correct. That's why I created a talk page as Mattythewhite suggested so that there could be a civilized discussion rather than people ganging up on me. Rupert1904 (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Rupert1904: If a group of people disagree with you, perhaps instead of accusing them of bullying and ganging up on you, you should consider that you might be on the wrong side of this argument. – PeeJay 11:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Govvy: If you have nothing to say then why enter the discussion at all? In disagreements, many people often "disagree". Just because more people have one opinion does not mean they are always correct. That's why I created a talk page as Mattythewhite suggested so that there could be a civilized discussion rather than people ganging up on me. Rupert1904 (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Rupert1904: Bullying? About four different people disagree with your assessment of what an honour is and Matty is an admin, I am only going to report to him what I see of the issue. I have nothing else to say thank you. Govvy (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
reverted date edits
Hi Mattythewhite, I reverted your edits here[1][2] and on Commons [3][4][5]. These players are today over 45 years old and don’t play football anymore. If you take a look at the pictures, you’ll also see these players are not 45 years old. I have checked which year the national dress comes from to get the year. Have a great day, greets -–CennoxX (talk @ dewiki) 10:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- This is clearly nonsense. User:CennoxX is claiming that photos taken at the same event last year were actually taken in 2001 or 2007. The photos of Frederic Dehu and Eric Carriere show them wearing Nike-made France shirts, but France's kits were made by Adidas in 2001! CennoxX says he has checked what year the kits come from, but clearly he didn't do a very good job at checking. – PeeJay 12:03, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Indeed, why they made half-baked assumptions based on kits and how old players look instead of doing a quick bit of fact checking I don't know! Mattythewhite (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Serious, serious...
Júlio César (footballer, born November 1978): for the second time, ref removal galore (I count more than TEN), honours display utterly destroyed (and LOL, removal of his most important accolade, the CL with R. Madrid) and all this done in very poor language.
To top it, User:Andraa.elenaa says they are acting on behalf of the subject himself (see their summary from 22 January, at 11:55)! Suggestions? --Quite A Character (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- They've already been given an explanation about conflicts of interest, so hopefully they'll take note and be more careful in future editing. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:25, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply (and thanks for the input), been out of town. Not feeling that much confident that they will, sure hope to be wrong! --Quite A Character (talk) 21:19, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Accents
Hi, why are you erasing the accents of these french footballers? --Zigurat (talk) 12:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- I agree with the Hernandez brothers, but not with Éric Abidal or with Claude Makélélé. --Zigurat (talk) 12:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- The evidence I've seen suggests that their names are spelt without the diacritics. The L'Équipe website refers to both without diacritics on their profiles (Abidal and Makelele), and in the majority of articles referring to the these individuals (searched using "site:lequipe.fr "Eric Abidal"" and "site:lequipe.fr "Claude Makelele"" on my browser). Bearing in mind that this publication does include diacritics where they do apply, see this and this for example. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, let's see how they name themselves: Claude and Eric. 50% --Zigurat (talk) 17:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- That's worth factoring in. I'd bear in mind that, while the accounts are official, they may have been created and be maintained by entourage who haven't necessarily been directed as to the correct spelling. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:45, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, let's see how they name themselves: Claude and Eric. 50% --Zigurat (talk) 17:31, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- The evidence I've seen suggests that their names are spelt without the diacritics. The L'Équipe website refers to both without diacritics on their profiles (Abidal and Makelele), and in the majority of articles referring to the these individuals (searched using "site:lequipe.fr "Eric Abidal"" and "site:lequipe.fr "Claude Makelele"" on my browser). Bearing in mind that this publication does include diacritics where they do apply, see this and this for example. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Really? Does the Equipe review have more weight than the primary source, your official account? Please anwer on my page, as usual. --Zigurat (talk) 18:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. Per WP:PSTS, "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources". I like to keep threads in one place so I would prefer to reply here. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Makélélé is not a french voice (Équipe), is a lingála one, like this --Zigurat (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- You could always request a move if you're unhappy with the current title. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:45, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Makélélé is not a french voice (Équipe), is a lingála one, like this --Zigurat (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes. Per WP:PSTS, "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources". I like to keep threads in one place so I would prefer to reply here. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
193.117.153.126 comments on my talkpage.
I am not sure the IP understands the seriousness of WP:OWN per comments made to my talkpage. I noticed you left a message on the guys talk page. Maybe you can have another word. Cheers. Govvy (talk) 14:47, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Berbatov
Hi User:Mattythewhite. I wont inform you, that after you have reverted my edit on the article about Berbatov, there is a version, that he is "retired". I am not sure whether this is true, i.e. he is already retired. I have changed earlier this version (that he is retired). It was done by another User: Aikclaes. I have changed "retired" with former, because it sounds better to me, but I am not a native-speaker of English. By the way, Berbatov himself gave an interview in April 2018. He has claimed that if he couldn't find a new team to play there in 2018, that would be the end of his sports career. "If I do not find a team to play there this summer, my career will be over, but no player is ready for that, and when you're done with football, a small part of you is dying," said Berbatov. Check here, please. Jingiby (talk) 15:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:11, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Adam Reed
Hi User:Mattythewhite. I would like to say that Adam Reed's contract has expired on January 2019. Hope you could update that — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcolacson (talk • contribs) 02:37, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm happy to update the article if you can supply a reliable source to support this. Mattythewhite (talk) 03:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Your intake, please:
the way the seasonal wikilinks are presented now (the early ones in his Portuguese career, that is) along with the storyline (date of arrival, date of leaving, etc), do they constitute WP:EASTEREGG in your opinion? I've had this situation with this user at Unai Emery, then ceased to edited Mr. Emery's article as you may have or not noticed. Not prepared to do the same in Mr. Jardim's piece, i'll tell you (but please to tell me the bits that need working on in this current version, if at all)!
Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 10:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- I've added the season to one instance where it wasn't obvious. I think the sentence starting "He led the Minho club..." could do with a reword to incorporate the season. Unrelated, but I've noticed "summer" is used a couple of times. We are encouraged to avoid this, per MOS:SEASON. I would replace them with the months, if they are known. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Okeydokey, will see to it! --Quite A Character (talk) 19:13, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Looks like a vandalism only account. Can you help? — AnakimiHoller 19:32, 29 January 2019 (UTC)