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::(ec)You have 2 sources listed. One is a Forum and therefore cannot be used. The second is a 15 seconds clip posted on a random (so not official) youtube channel with no context. This is about as unreliable as it gets. If that event actually happened, more reliable sources will cover it and we can re-add the section. --[[User:McSly|McSly]] ([[User talk:McSly|talk]]) 22:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC) |
::(ec)You have 2 sources listed. One is a Forum and therefore cannot be used. The second is a 15 seconds clip posted on a random (so not official) youtube channel with no context. This is about as unreliable as it gets. If that event actually happened, more reliable sources will cover it and we can re-add the section. --[[User:McSly|McSly]] ([[User talk:McSly|talk]]) 22:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::: 15 second clip is not random as I said it is from India Today TV channel. I agree on the forum part. However, the video is genuine as reported by India Today on 27th of February, 2019. [[User:Faraz|Faraz]] ([[User talk:Faraz|talk]]) 22:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC) |
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in the section "Performance", there should be a blank between "(1,620 nmi)" and "at altitude", but I was unable to insert it. Best regards.178.26.108.15 (talk) 23:20, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
- Feel free to add it.--Bolzanobozen (talk) 14:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
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India's Procurement Plan
It is reported that IAF is no longer interested in procurement of any further batch of Su-30. This information is being included in this article. The reasons why IAF is not interested is also mentioned in the news article. (Link provided) Sarvagyana guru (talk) 04:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Wrong article. Specifcs on India with sources belongs at Sukhoi Su-30MKI instead on this main S-30 article. -Fnlayson (talk) 14:51, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- This was covered in the article. The text and source has been moved to the Sukhoi Su-30MKI article.
Operator section in infobox
Why is the Indian Air Force and People's Liberation Army Air Force is not being considered while Algerian Air Force and Venezuelan Air Force also flies different variants of the Su-30 aircraft but are covered in the infobox. Then what is the reason behind this ?
This article is an introduction to the other variants with more detailed information regarding specifics. But to not allow the two most significant countries having more aircrafts than the other mentioned is seeming very much partial.
I hope there's a much important reason for not including one party as they are included in another similar article. It will be great if the reason is being clearly stated inside the caution brackets. SoloKnowHow83 (talk) 21:21, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Because India's version is covered at Sukhoi Su-30MKI. China's Air Force is similarly covered at the Su-30MKK article. This has been stated in a hidden note in the Infobox. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
India-Pakistan Standoff
On 27 February 2019 it was reported an Indian Su-30MKI was shot down by a JF-17 Thunder of Pakistan Air Force in Azad jammu & Kashmir as reported by India Today TV Channel. [1] The event happened when Pakistan conducted surgical strike inside Indian Occupied Kashmir and one Indian Mig-21Bi and one Indian Su-30MKI tried to intercept that were shot down by Pakistan. [2] Both pilots arrested by Pakistan.
This part should remain in the article as it clearly belongs to an Indian source. Not a Pakistani source. Also, the Su-30 MKI belongs to Su-30 family.
- This is obviously not a reliable source. So it cannot be included in the article. The removal of that section from the article was correct. --McSly (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- How is it not a reliable source? It is from an Indian TV Channel called India Today. Faraz (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- The 2nd ref is linked to a forum page. User editable pages like this do not meet requirements at WP:Reliable sources, section WP:USERG. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- (ec)You have 2 sources listed. One is a Forum and therefore cannot be used. The second is a 15 seconds clip posted on a random (so not official) youtube channel with no context. This is about as unreliable as it gets. If that event actually happened, more reliable sources will cover it and we can re-add the section. --McSly (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- 15 second clip is not random as I said it is from India Today TV channel. I agree on the forum part. However, the video is genuine as reported by India Today on 27th of February, 2019. Faraz (talk) 22:44, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- How is it not a reliable source? It is from an Indian TV Channel called India Today. Faraz (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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