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[[User:David A|David A]] ([[User talk:David A|talk]]) 09:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
[[User:David A|David A]] ([[User talk:David A|talk]]) 09:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

The second source is a dead link plus the other two sources are opinion pieces that are based on a youtube video that is released from one of the involved parties. Youtube videos are considered poor sources by Wikipedia and pieces citing them as their sole source are by the transitive property unreliable. Secondly, released footage from Yemeni's Patreon account and another video posted by a youtube user shows that the Yemeni video itself was edited and cut parts out- to make an already dodgy piece of evidence even more dodgy. In light of this, this entire story is a damp squib- put opinion pieces in opinion pieces.
Put facts that submit to a reasonable burden of proof to this page. Furthermore there are too few corresponding sources, or sources from outlets with reputable levels of impartiality, to confer an appropriate level of consensus to this incident.
[[Special:Contributions/24.44.9.27|24.44.9.27]] ([[User talk:24.44.9.27|talk]]) 01:51, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

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NAME

Everything I've ever heard (including his website) points to Jefferies as the proper spelling, NOT Jeffries. Change it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.127.149 (talk) 15:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

His only claim to fame seems to be that a drunk member of the audience once hit him in Manchester. The entry seems to be a vanity/publicity piece, as witnessed by the fact a link to the video of him being punched has been posted on this "discussion" page. Why? 06:13, 05 July 2007 (UTC)

And a comedian who has featured on several television programmes, including Have I Got News For You, which is watched by millions on BBC One. The JPStalk to me 16:05, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He is clearly not "is the funniest man ever to live". The link supporting this ludicrous claim doesn't work either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simonc1 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

Previous versions of this article had limitations, and their speedy deletions were probably justified. I have rewritten this article and it now easily meets WP:BIO. The JPStalk to me 14:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Has he got any parents?2.101.151.145 (talk) 15:36, 24 July 2016 (UTC)Lance Tyrell[reply]

Jim Jeffries Punched

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2WCGKb8ikRc Jim is live on stage and he get punched.

Why did the guy punch Jim Jeffries?

What is the story behind that?

He obviously had a particularly ugly vagina. --Uksam88 (talk) 15:20, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O&A

Is this page about Jim Jeffries or about his appearences on Opie and Anthony?

His official site spells his name Jefferies, not Jeffries. What's up?

Am I missing something here?

This part of the opening line

"Jim Jefferies[1] (born Sydney, Australia) (spelled as "Jim Jefferies" in the United States)"

Are they not exactly the same spellings? 90.218.188.163 (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems to be more than an "internet smear campaign"

The page is currently locked after a mini edit war with a fair amount of vandalism, some of which has been labelled in the reverts as "an internet smear campaign"; I think that characterization might be accurate, but is one-sided as the debate seems to run in both directions. Since there are aspects of BLP here, I'm simply reporting here what I saw in a video (below) and the edit history of this page, and of course corrections/clarifications are welcome. I thought I'd add some evidence to the talk page to inform the discussion of what's going on. Here is the source of the "he's islamophobic" charge, this hidden camera video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odCQhAezB_Q released by Avi Yemini video segments of whom were recorded some week ago but were included in a a recent Jeffries piece that aired in the wake of the Christchurch shootings. Yemini I'm not that familiar with but from my reading is apparently a pro-Israeli OZie who in the current political climate would likely be labelled as "alt-right", and whether he uses that label himself or not, he denies that he is far right. He is claiming that when "off camera" Jefferies presents a different persona to an interviewee and then edits the interview to color the interviewee and cover up Jefferies's own comments (which I would characterize as seemingly to stir up trouble, perhaps to evoke "candid" or "off guard" remarks). Watch from the beginning or here are some useful timestamps: 4:30 Jefferies indicates he has sketched a cartoon of Mohammed who he makes some mild criticism of, and 5:45 Jefferies criticizes the burka and, while no doubt joking, suggests "the dingo" would have vomited a Moslem baby. Avi Yemini at the beginning of this youtube suggests that there are more excerpts of this video soon to be released. 98.13.244.125 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure whoever made these edits simply meant to point out a certain hypocrisy, namely that when right-leaning individuals make similar jokes or statements, they are regularly labelled as "islamophobic" by the mainstream media. Perhaps we should make a Controversy section, seeing as this story is fairly prominent (Avi Yemini's hidden cam video has been up for less than 2 days but has almost a million views). M . M 10:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is video evidence of these things. They are not "claiming" when the videos are available to prove it. "I'm not a fan of Islam. I think that wearing a burka is stupid". Jim Jeffries is a liar and a toad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.161.207.38 (talk) 13:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've only heard of him because of the controversy and then I go on wikipedia to learn more and there's no mention of it and in fact it is being actively blocked. This could be the most notable information about him. 2600:1700:E3A0:EF80:34DB:CF63:C233:F0C0 (talk) 18:32, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There has been another youtube video [1] which showed that Avi Yemeni himself edited his own recording to incorrectly portray the responses of Jim Jeffrey. The unedited footage was gained by purchase from Avi Yemeni's Patreon and clearly shows that the claims made are false in light of the material cut before and after certain segments of the video referring to the supposed 'Anti-Islamic and dingo baby quote' which was preceded by a disclaimer that Jim Jefferies feels the same about all religions, not singling out Islam in particular. Whilst I do not have a source for the next claim, the Muhammad drawing segment was always purported to be false as Jefferies later indicated, after mentioning he was drawing Muhammad, that he drew 'Mike'- referring to a person off screen. Apparently the footage showcasing this is on Avi Yemeni's Patreon and I strong suggest that the newly added controversy section be deleted or not refer to sources of dubious validity until a link to the unedited footage is given and is compared to the Jim Jefferies segment and the Avi Yemeni videos so that a conclusion under a reasonable standard of evidence can be surmised.24.44.9.27 (talk) 16:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As per Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people, this type of information (whether positive or negative) would need to be reported in reliable, independent sources, rather than based on Youtube videos. Also, note that if the information is notable enough to be reported by reliable sources, then it should be merged into the main body of the article, rather than in a separate "controversy" section. --Wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:20, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Breitbart have posted a news article dated 26 March 2019 by Lucas Nolan detailing the incident with Jim Jefferies and Avi Yemini, including references to the Avi's Facebook banning and the hidden camera recording as detailed in the original Wiki Edits. For some reason, Wikipedia blocks link posting from Breitbart in Talk sections. - This should be sufficient justification for the edits as shown in the previous Wiki page update. [1] NorseStorm57 (talk) 05:30, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The left wing seems to be vandalising this page and removing accurate and proven information. These things should be added immediately and then his page should be prevented from being tampered with again. Just because the footage is unflattering doesn't mean it isn't accurate. As a historian this information should be re-added. The validity of the video is without question and is properly source. BrendanMtx (talk) 06:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the interview with Avi Yemini

Here are some sources that should be possible to use for the incident. Breitbart is not allowed as a reference in Wikipedia anymore. They should preferably be used in a "Controversies" section.

https://jpost.com/Diaspora/Jim-Jeffries-video-captures-comedians-antisemitic-and-anti-Islam-slurs-584721

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/jim-jefferies-busted/news-story/

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/comedy-central-host-exposed-as-a-hypocrite-by-hidden-camera/

David A (talk) 09:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The second source is a dead link plus the other two sources are opinion pieces that are based on a youtube video that is released from one of the involved parties. Youtube videos are considered poor sources by Wikipedia and pieces citing them as their sole source are by the transitive property unreliable. Secondly, released footage from Yemeni's Patreon account and another video posted by a youtube user shows that the Yemeni video itself was edited and cut parts out- to make an already dodgy piece of evidence even more dodgy. In light of this, this entire story is a damp squib- put opinion pieces in opinion pieces. Put facts that submit to a reasonable burden of proof to this page. Furthermore there are too few corresponding sources, or sources from outlets with reputable levels of impartiality, to confer an appropriate level of consensus to this incident. 24.44.9.27 (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Breitbart News recently reported on Avi Yemini, the Jewish-Australian political commentator who released a video exposé on Australian comedian Jim Jefferies. Yemini was worried about the interview being edited selectively so he set up his phone to record the whole conversation. Jefferies interviewed Yemini some months ago, but only published the video recently following the shooting at the Christchurch mosque in New Zealand. In fact, The Jim Jefferies Show appears to imply that the interview took place after the shooting. Jefferies discusses many issues with Yemini, but mainly focuses on the topics of Islam and Australian migration laws.
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