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I recently made a small edit, adding the word "parody" before the phrase "Golden Raspberry Awards" in the second paragraph of the lead section. I did this because, when I read the lead section for the first time, I personally found it confusing and had to click on the blue link to [[Golden Raspberry Awards]] in order to understand what was actually being said. But this edit was just reversed by an anonymous editor (109.77.209.211), on the grounds that "parody is not quite the right word," even though we currently call the awards a "parody" in the main [[Golden Raspberry Awards]] article. I think 109.77.209.211's reversal of my edit was rather silly and that the lead section reads better with the clarification. If there's no objection, I'll undo their reversal in the next day or so. [[User:Montgolfière|Montgolfière]] ([[User talk:Montgolfière|talk]]) 03:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I recently made a small edit, adding the word "parody" before the phrase "Golden Raspberry Awards" in the second paragraph of the lead section. I did this because, when I read the lead section for the first time, I personally found it confusing and had to click on the blue link to [[Golden Raspberry Awards]] in order to understand what was actually being said. But this edit was just reversed by an anonymous editor (109.77.209.211), on the grounds that "parody is not quite the right word," even though we currently call the awards a "parody" in the main [[Golden Raspberry Awards]] article. I think 109.77.209.211's reversal of my edit was rather silly and that the lead section reads better with the clarification. If there's no objection, I'll undo their reversal in the next day or so. [[User:Montgolfière|Montgolfière]] ([[User talk:Montgolfière|talk]]) 03:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
: I'm surprised you don't already know what the Golden Raspberry Awards are, but even so the award titles such as "Worst Picture" should be more than enough to make the context and nature of the awards clear. Further details are better left to the [[Golden Raspberry Awards]] page. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.77.209.211|109.77.209.211]] ([[User talk:109.77.209.211|talk]]) 16:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

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Unsourced production companies

The production companies were unsourced, so I added a citation for them (diff). This is to the American Film Institute. Crazybob2014 blanked the source and restored the unsourced production companies (diff). I reverted him (diff), and he reverted me back (diff). I would like to restore the reliably sourced production companies and remove the unsourced ones. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:16, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This says, "A Paramount release presented with Nickelodeon Movies of a Blinding Edge Pictures, Kennedy/Marshall Co. production." Paramount was the major studio involved, but not sure about the extent of Nickelodeon's involvement. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with Variety's reviews is that they don't explicitly identify the production companies. One of them could be a production company, another could be a financier, another could be contractually obligated to appear in the billing block. We don't know exactly which ones are the production companies, though I often use Variety reviews when I can't find anything else. It's certainly better than nothing. AFI, Screen International, and The Hollywood Reporter all explicitly list the production companies, which I think is more useful than looking at the billing block. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:55, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The BFI credit it as a Paramount/Nickelodeon presentation that was produced by Blinding Edge Pictures and Kennedy/Marshall Co. Both Paramount and Nickelodeon are owned by Viacom, so I doubt Nickelodeon would have been involved in the film's production because that is what Paramount does for Viacom. It looks to me that the two independents produced it for Paramount who funded and distributed it; Nickelodeon is likely just in the credits for licensing reasons. It's really a question of how you interpret the credits: either just the two production companies should be included in the production company field or all four companies should be included. I favor the latter because it relies on less editorial interpretation. Betty Logan (talk) 20:30, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The important thing is that it gets sourced. I think the AFI is a perfectly legitimate source for an American film, but if the BFI disagrees, fine, we can go with that instead. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:16, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think both sources are legitimate for any film regardless of the country they are made in, so the real question is how to handle the inconsistency? Betty Logan (talk) 03:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's true. I think I was feeling a bit tired and grumpy when I wrote that. What you suggested sounds fine to me. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I saw an IP editor screwing with the production companies and went back to the AFI's database entry, which was already in the article. I forgot about this discussion on the talk page, since there was no source for the production companies. Once I remembered, I cited the BFI source above for the production companies, which seemed to be the consensus. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Parts of the article read like promotional material for the production companies

The Special Effects section sounds like promotional material from ILM. Should be cleaned up and shortened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.10.80 (talk) 08:51, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifying that the Golden Raspberry Awards are parodies

I recently made a small edit, adding the word "parody" before the phrase "Golden Raspberry Awards" in the second paragraph of the lead section. I did this because, when I read the lead section for the first time, I personally found it confusing and had to click on the blue link to Golden Raspberry Awards in order to understand what was actually being said. But this edit was just reversed by an anonymous editor (109.77.209.211), on the grounds that "parody is not quite the right word," even though we currently call the awards a "parody" in the main Golden Raspberry Awards article. I think 109.77.209.211's reversal of my edit was rather silly and that the lead section reads better with the clarification. If there's no objection, I'll undo their reversal in the next day or so. Montgolfière (talk) 03:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised you don't already know what the Golden Raspberry Awards are, but even so the award titles such as "Worst Picture" should be more than enough to make the context and nature of the awards clear. Further details are better left to the Golden Raspberry Awards page. -- 109.77.209.211 (talk) 16:26, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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