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{{unblock reviewed | 1=It wasn't wrong to block me, but I understand why I've been blocked and I don't want to go against the tide any longer, in order to do this I want to recover my main account and disclose any future and current client I might have. I regret using multiple accounts but I had no other choice at the moment other than keep up and I did not really understand Wikipedia as I do now. Josher8a does not have anything to do with the sockpuppet farm, it was me the whole time, someone got it wrong from the beggining. [[User:Javieralexvr|Javieralexvr]] ([[User talk:Javieralexvr#top|talk]]) 00:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC) | decline = If this is true, then you have been running one of this year's most prolific paid editing sockfarms, and you have been doing so as recently as last week. The only possible route you have back to editing is the [[WP:SO|standard offer]], and I seriously doubt that the community would accept you back in six months' time without a firm commitment to avoid paid editing on Wikipedia altogether. The absolute earliest date that an unblock would even be considered at this point would be May 2020. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]] [[User talk:Yunshui|<sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub>]] 08:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)}} |
{{unblock reviewed | 1=It wasn't wrong to block me, but I understand why I've been blocked and I don't want to go against the tide any longer, in order to do this I want to recover my main account and disclose any future and current client I might have. I regret using multiple accounts but I had no other choice at the moment other than keep up and I did not really understand Wikipedia as I do now. Josher8a does not have anything to do with the sockpuppet farm, it was me the whole time, someone got it wrong from the beggining. [[User:Javieralexvr|Javieralexvr]] ([[User talk:Javieralexvr#top|talk]]) 00:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC) | decline = If this is true, then you have been running one of this year's most prolific paid editing sockfarms, and you have been doing so as recently as last week. The only possible route you have back to editing is the [[WP:SO|standard offer]], and I seriously doubt that the community would accept you back in six months' time without a firm commitment to avoid paid editing on Wikipedia altogether. The absolute earliest date that an unblock would even be considered at this point would be May 2020. [[User:Yunshui|Yunshui]] [[User talk:Yunshui|<sup style="font-size:90%">雲</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Yunshui|<sub style="font-size:90%">水</sub>]] 08:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)}} |
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::{{reply|Yunshui}} I wish it was prolific, most my articles and edits have been reverted or deleted. I wish to continue to do paid editting, this is not prohibited. why can't we get talk and get everything on rule without unnecesary punishments because I want to follow the guidelines, would you give me the chance to do this? I really don't want to have to hide my clients or use multiple accounts. I know I made a mistake but I was new, |
::{{reply|Yunshui}} I wish it was prolific, most my articles and edits have been reverted or deleted. I wish to continue to do paid editting, this is not prohibited. why can't we get talk and get everything on rule without unnecesary punishments because I want to follow the guidelines, would you give me the chance to do this? I really don't want to have to hide my clients or use multiple accounts. I know I made a mistake but I was new,and you have to understand that this was important to me and I did not know what I was doing. [[User:Javieralexvr|Javieralexvr]] ([[User talk:Javieralexvr#top|talk]]) 21:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC) |
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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (March 27) =
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Hello, Javieralexvr!
Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: CancerLinQ has been accepted
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.
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— Stevey7788 (talk) 14:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC)Paid editing disclosure
Thank you for disclosing your paid editing status. As per WP:Paid, please provide links on your Wikipedia user page to all active accounts at websites where you advertise paid Wikipedia-editing services e.g. your Upwork account etc. Thank you. GSS (talk|c|em) 04:29, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- No problem GSS (talk|c|em) but I am not currently advertising on any site. The first time I got the job reading a post on Reddit, after messaging the employer he gave me my first task (to make a draft on zach avery) which I did and he liked it. Now we just talk in private and discuss new clients. Not sure how he gets the clients though Javieralexvr (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Can you please provide a link to that Raddit thread? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- did not know that Gabrielle had her article deleted before but I will try to improve her article and do a AfC submission again, I think her career is growing. the reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/slavelabour/comments/b0qtyl/task_need_a_wikipedia_page_written_in_the_next/Javieralexvr (talk) 04:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Can you please provide a link to that Raddit thread? GSS (talk|c|em) 04:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- No problem GSS (talk|c|em) but I am not currently advertising on any site. The first time I got the job reading a post on Reddit, after messaging the employer he gave me my first task (to make a draft on zach avery) which I did and he liked it. Now we just talk in private and discuss new clients. Not sure how he gets the clients though Javieralexvr (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Also please note I unblocked you under the understanding you would keep all of your paid content in draft. That means you don't get to move it to mainspace. TonyBallioni (talk) 04:41, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Per WP:PAID you must not move affected article(s) from draftspace. GSS (talk|c|em) 17:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes but would someone review the articles? taking months just to reject...Javieralexvr (talk) 17:41, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Javieralexvr (talk) 17:51, 30 July 2019 (UTC)+
Your submission at Articles for creation: Gabrielle Ryan (July 8)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: CancerLinQ (July 8)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Plastiq (July 30)
Your submission at Articles for creation: CancerLinQ (July 30)
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Blocked again
MER-C what now? I am not a sockpuppet of josher8a, did you block me for editing drafts?
Your submission at Articles for creation: CancerLinQ (August 30)
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What can I do to recover my account?
Javieralexvr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
hello I want to to edit the encyclopedia again and I am not linked with Josher8a anymore. He is dead to me, What can I do? I will never use multiple accounts again but I had to test it. I know there isn't a short path with wikipedia Javieralexvr (talk) 00:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Hi — unfortunately I am not permitted to unblock you as the block was made by a Checkuser. I can decline to unblock you, however, which I am doing for bookkeeping reasons since you aren't contending the Checkuser results were incorrect in identifying you as a sockpuppet of Josher8a, which is (almost) the only reason for reversal of a Checkuser block. If, however, you intended to claim the Checkuser results were incorrect, then please feel free to make another unblock request. I'd recommend that in that request you more clearly explain your past relationship with Josher8a and how it is you are "not linked with" them anymore. To your question about how you can resume editing Wikipedia, please read the essay WP:STANDARD. There is also guidance here you might find useful. I hope this answers your questions, however, please feel free to ping me if it does not or you need additional assistance. Chetsford (talk) 17:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
I guess I could create a new account but its better to straight this account since it has my signature username.I am a real person you can check my social media or whatever you like Javieralexvr (talk) 00:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi — if you would like to request to be unblocked for purposes of changing the username of this account in order to obfuscate a real name, you can use this template. Chetsford (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks @Chetsford:. I will do that and I will follow your advice to persue the unblock.Javieralexvr (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Zach Avery has been accepted
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.
You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.
- If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk.
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Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!
~Kvng (talk) 15:04, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Hello @SamHolt6:@MER-C:@Chetsford: please assume good faith and have open mind while reading this. I am ready to confess I am the sockpuppet farm master, so I will just tell the truth about it, hope we can agree to something. I am investing too much time finding ways to do paid editting without having my accounts blocked, I want to change this, with this vision I have come to you to discuss my situation and why I've created the farm. Starting from the beginning, I live in Venezuela, I struggle with money and my country is going through the equivalent of US Great Recession or maybe worse. One day on my mission to make money online, I found an opportunity on Reddit to work on Wikipedia doing paid editing. At the time, I'd never used Wikipedia and I had a lot to learn about the mechanics of the page and the guidelines of the community, Josher8a is my friend from college and he is a 10 year old Wikipedia when I commented to him about Wikipedia he told me he was an experienced wikipedian and agreed to help me familiarize and get around Wikipedia. You could say that he was my teacher but he is not involved with the sockpupetry if you could free him from the issue I would appreciate it. My first article Cancerlinq wasnt paid editting, for me it was a learning article but I got me off with the wrong idea. The article was reviewed and approved very quickly and led me to think that Wikipedia was easy and I had nothing to worry about. I met the Reddit person and he started giving me clients for potential articles, my job was to get them live. Logically, I started using the moving article feature and somehow for the first two months nobody told me to stop and use AfC leading me to think that wikipedia was even more easy than I thought. One day I was hit by the truth and I got blocked. I still had clients and needed money so I looked at alternative ways to keep my edits going. This is where the real sockpuppet farm started and Josher8a was done with it. I had 'learned' and he was no longer involved. After that, I have been blocked for many reason but always learning and improving my methods to avoid being discovered and write better drafts. I no longer wish to do this, It has cost me too many clients and time. I want to be able to disclose all my clients and submit draft to AfC without being blocked for advertising, I know wikipedia discourage paid editing but for me it is the best opportunity to have a dignified life I've encounter so far. I am sorry but I am a survivor and my instinct told me to fight the system. I agree to stop abusing multiple accounts and let everything come to light but I want to find a way where I can work and sleep soundly. I am open to contribute in any way to the encyclopedia, getting webhost ips to block, copywriting, identifying other undisclosed paid editting, or whatever. I would really do anything to straighten this and maybe continue with our lives happily..Don't destroy me, Regards Javieralexvr (talk) 23:41, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
@Bbb23: @TheSandDoctor: @GSS: @ST47: @NinjaRobotPirate:
- note: paid editting is discouraged but not prohibited and I do want to follow every guideline there is. My inexperience and the circumstances encouraged me to do what I did but I would rather do it following policies and with your blessing. I hope to hear back from you all and close this investigation. Javieralexvr (talk) 20:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
@SamHolt6:
Hello, I did start the new draft on mark kendall and I don't think it was abusive but I understand why you can't have his page around or even review it. I don't even know why his references were unreliable or his article promotional but if it makes you happy I will never create a draft for him again. This is my main account not on proxy, can we talk, please? I long being able to edit and discuss like normal people. I don't care about going against you or any other mod.
What I want does not matter but I will ask anyways
Javieralexvr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
It wasn't wrong to block me, but I understand why I've been blocked and I don't want to go against the tide any longer, in order to do this I want to recover my main account and disclose any future and current client I might have. I regret using multiple accounts but I had no other choice at the moment other than keep up and I did not really understand Wikipedia as I do now. Josher8a does not have anything to do with the sockpuppet farm, it was me the whole time, someone got it wrong from the beggining. Javieralexvr (talk) 00:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Decline reason:
If this is true, then you have been running one of this year's most prolific paid editing sockfarms, and you have been doing so as recently as last week. The only possible route you have back to editing is the standard offer, and I seriously doubt that the community would accept you back in six months' time without a firm commitment to avoid paid editing on Wikipedia altogether. The absolute earliest date that an unblock would even be considered at this point would be May 2020. Yunshui 雲水 08:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- @Yunshui: I wish it was prolific, most my articles and edits have been reverted or deleted. I wish to continue to do paid editting, this is not prohibited. why can't we get talk and get everything on rule without unnecesary punishments because I want to follow the guidelines, would you give me the chance to do this? I really don't want to have to hide my clients or use multiple accounts. I know I made a mistake but I was new,and you have to understand that this was important to me and I did not know what I was doing. Javieralexvr (talk) 21:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)