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FeelThere

Regarding a post I made about Feelthere, It was not my intention to post any advertising, or marketing material, I just love the game and find it interesting that it is not showing anywhere on wikipedia, I have been playing it for a while now and would like to contribute so other people can experience the game and know what is it like to work as an air traffic controller. Again I apologize for any content that should not be published here your hlep if highly appreciated on how to include this game in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielazo (talk • contribs) 20:04, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Arielazo:, 3 important points:

• If you have any close connection to this game (for example as developer or other kind of employee) and want to suggest content in affected articles, you must disclose this connection per WMF's Terms of Use for this website (see WP:COI and WP:PAID).
• Content on Wikipedia should be primarily based on non-promotional independent 3rd-party sources, not on self-published information or PR platforms. If you have such independent non-promotional sources, it is a lot more likely that edits and edit requests with new content will be accepted.
• Entries in lists should usually have an article with independent sources written first, especially for large lists (see WP:WTAF and WP:YFA).

I hope these tips are helpful. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask or you can post for additional advice at WP:Teahouse, a forum for new editors. GermanJoe (talk) 20:39, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello German Joe, for your first point, I have no relationship with the developer, I mentioned this before there is no conflict of interest. For your second point, I understand that the link I used the first time was direct to the developer page and obviously their intention is to sell the game since we need third party websites that have written about the subject, I found this one written by sim flight a webpage dedicated to flight simulators, https://www.simflight.com/2010/01/24/review-feelthere-erj-145v2/ I'm working on an article in my sandbox about Feelthere, I find it interesting and challenging meeting all the requirements Wikipedia has, and will continue to work on this until I achieve a good article with several references that is worth being published.

Looking forward to hearing from you shortly. Thanks & Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielazo (talk • contribs) 15:12, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Arielazo:, I don't have time for a full review at the moment, but as long as you use independent non-promotional sources for your edits and the content is neutrally phrased, your edits should be generally fine. If you are planning to contribute flight simulator-related or similar content, you might be interested in Wiki-Projects such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Software, Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation and Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games (broadly construed). Beyond my more general tips, editors interested in these special topic areas might be better qualified to offer specific topic-related advice and assess topical sources if needed. Many Wiki projects for specific topic areas also provide detailed guidance for editing these topics in the form of project information and essays. GermanJoe (talk) 16:52, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello German Joe I read your recommendation about COI and I'm not receiving any payment to make these contributions, I see that the problem was that the webpage I used as a reference not only shows information about the game but also attempts to sell the product, I've made some research work here and Feelthere seems to be a good game developer I could find some references in the STeam Webpage but if I try using that it will also be closed because Steam webpage is about sales of video games. On the other hand, I found the following links that are from 3 party sources and would like to ask if it is ok to use them as a reference? I'm an aircraft maintenance technician and aviation enthusiast the reason why I want to bring this into Wikipedia is that back in 2007 I started playing the early version of the ATC game and that inspired me to pursue a career in the aviation field. I appreciate your help a lot.

• https://www.gamasutra.com/view/pressreleases/180815/FeelThere_releases_highly_authentic_Tracon_2012_air_trafficcontrol_simulator.php
• https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/embraer-e-jets-v-2-embraer-175-and-embraer-195-recreated-for-flight-simmers
• https://www.gaminginstincts.com/tower-3d-available-now/
• https://mafiadoc.com/ejets-v2_59877e701723ddd169540ed8.html

BTW happy thanksgivings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielazo (talk • contribs) 12:20, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Re: Using your own publications

Hello GermanJoe, according to the policy citing one's own work "is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive. Citations should be in the third person and should not place undue emphasis on your work". I argue the editing I did was within reason (also considering that I fixed technical issues in the original, rather poorly written text), the reference(s) are relevant, and are few.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangyuri (talk • contribs) 19:53, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Dangyuri, of course improvements especially from topic experts are appreciated. But you didn't add much new content and the existing content was already sufficiently sourced by other references. Anyway, "when in doubt" please suggest further similar additions of your own work on article talk, per WP:SELFCITE. Thank you. GermanJoe (talk) 16:46, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Creating Wikipedia Business Pages

Hello GermanJoe, I couldn't help but notice your tips on creating a business page on Wikipedia. Would it be too much to ask of you to look over a text edit I put together and give me some tips of any changes I should make for it to meet the guidelines of Wikipedia? Sean1sposato (talk) 19:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Sean1sposato:, I am sorry, but I don't have time for a review of the deleted draft. One important point though: please disclose a possible conflict of interest or possible paid editing, if either of these guidelines apply to your editing (see the linked pages for more details). Thank you for your consideration. GermanJoe (talk) 20:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

NO worries, and quick question: Where would I disclose the fact that there could be a conflict of interest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean1sposato (talk • contribs) 20:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

@Sean1sposato:, usually on your userpage and on top of the talkpage of affected articles. WP:DISCLOSE contains more "how to" details - please check such links for more information. GermanJoe (talk) 21:03, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

GermanJoe, thank you for all the help! I appreciate it. Sean1sposato (talk) 21:06, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

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16:51, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding my edits

Hi Sir,

I am new to Wikipedia. I made 2 edits today.

The first edit was related to Fairytrail (dating app for travelers which is safer than other dating apps). The second edit was related to Devblog (a tool that helps developers to create developer stories on their own domains instead of medium.com).

I was trying to add value to the readers since I thought they must know about both the products. It may look promotional as I am a new user. Please let me know where I went wrong. If you feel that the information I shared is genuine, please undo the changes you made.

Sincerely, Vikas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cryptochild07 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Both edits lacked independent 3rd-party sources and were clearly intended to promote these websites/products. Both aspects violate our most basic content guidelines - Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a PR platform for products and companies. If you have further questions, please feel free to ask at WP:Teahouse, a forum for new editors. GermanJoe (talk) 18:57, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Oops

I forgot that Twinkle notified of speedy deletions...sorry about that! As you realized, was just doing a merge. My apologies - should've done the manual way. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 16:08, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

No worries :). GermanJoe (talk) 16:59, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Help Needed

Thanks for your comment. I have an article created but still in the sandbox and not sure how to publish it as there is no drop down menu/publish button in my sandbox. Can you please help. My Sandbox/article are at:

User:Teslalover2019/sandbox

Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teslalover2019 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Teslalover2019:, you should try to find 1-2 more independent reliable sources to establish the topic's notability first. When you believe that the draft article is ready for publication, you can submit it for review by an uninvolved, experienced editor: just add {{subst:submit}} on top of the page (article reviews might need a few weeks, make sure to check back for eventual feedback). Hope this helps, but please feel free to ask me or at WP:Teahouse if you have further questions. GermanJoe (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello @GermanJoe:

Thanks for your help!

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SPICMACAY

I shall feel grateful if you could let me know which part of the edit was promotional. Undid revision 930777321 by GermanJoe (talk) This edit is very essential and it is not promotional. This is about an organisation which is approved by the government and works on cultural heritage of India. All mentioned points are pertinent to for one who would want to know about SPIC MACAY. if any point is objectionable, kindly write to us and the necessary explanations can be furnised. This update was done by an appointed member

Hello, as a member of this organization you should not edit the article yourself to begin with. Please read WP:COI for more information. I have added some more details and tips on the article's talkpage - please feel free to join the new thread to discuss this issue at Talk:SPIC MACAY. And you can also suggest policy-compliant sourced content on the article talkpage aswell, however Wikipedia is no PR platform for organizations to present themselves. GermanJoe (talk) 13:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Talk page access revocation

Hello GermanJoe, hope all is well. You might need to revoke talk page access for ScrõtumButt. They are creating bogus unblock requests. Thanks! -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

@LuK3: - already done. But thank you for keeping an eye out for such issues. GermanJoe (talk) 14:55, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thank you GermanJoe! You were probably the first ones on Wikipedia (I came across) to "actually" be so helpful. Great Work. Keep it up. Keep helping. (LOL) Createyoursunshine (talk) 14:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)