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Let me google that for you

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Pick any source, add it as you like, be fucking productive, Wikipedia has become a shithole full of pedantic reverters

Do you really think _I_ will spend _my_ time to add a source and try to create a link just so _you_ or any other dipshit (see my previous attempts) can revert that because the source is not _good enough_ for your liking?

I have been editing Wikipedia since 2004 and let me tell you kiddo, the fun is gone.

So leave it out, the oldest working organ in France, one of the oldest instruments in Europe. Just don't mention that in wikipedia, because I didn't add a fucking source.

What policy are you referring to that allows you to revert my addition? Add a fucking source yourself if you need it so badly.

/rant off/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 20:53, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What policy are you referring to that allows you to revert my addition? WP:PROVEIT maybe? Adam9007 (talk) 20:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Wrong. PROVEIT should be used for stuff that isn't easily verifiable, did you maybe click the pretty link I provided for your convenience. The bloody organ is there. There is no obligation the add a source for absolutely everything. Look it is stated "Lorris is located 7 km (4.3 mi) northeast of Sully-sur-Loire, 20 km (12 mi) southwest of Montargis, " without a source, oh noooo revert, revert it is not fucking sourced, what are we gonna do?

(talk page watcher) Please stop your obscene rants. Oshwah is a much respected editor and administrator who is only asking you to abide by Wikipedia conventions. If you continue you may be blocked from "contributing" to the encyclopedia. Thank you, David J Johnson (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Stop whining — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

If you're going to behave in this manner, at least do it toward me. There's no need to be uncivil toward the other users who comment, communicate, and respond here... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! As pointed out to you in the response above, Wikipedia's policies state that the onus of responsibility that a user demonstrate verifiability of content lies with the editor who adds or restores material or content to an article. You're of course welcome to edit, improve, and expand articles and content on Wikipedia - we're absolutely not trying to discourage you from doing so. However, your edits need to directly cite a source that's reliable and can be used to support the content, establish verifiability, and be reviwed by readers to make sure that the content added is genuine, accurate, and true. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:10, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

No, I will not edit a source in just so somebody else can delete it again, I am fed up with that. We'll just not mention in the english wikipedia that an old organ is there, we'll simply leave it out. As I type this I am listening to nice relaxing music played on the organ in LORRIS, one of the oldest (unverified claim) organs still in use. I also don't care that the rest of the LORRIS lemma is not sourced either, not the mayors, not the history, nothing is sourced and I am happy that you don't care about that either, otherwise the whole LORRIS lemma would not exist. Goodbye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

That's disappointing to hear... Looking at your contributions, you seem to have at least an intermediate level of proficiency, familiarity, and experience on Wikipedia and how to navigate and communicate. Given some additional time to learn and grow, understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines more in-depth, and make more edits and changes - I feel like you have the potential to become a great Wikipedia editor who can mentor others and make a big difference around here. I obviously can't force you to do anything you don't want to do, but should you change your mind and want to help us while we help you, I'm available and happy to help. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:44, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Been there, done that, made me into the old grumbling uncivil IP editor I am today. Thank you for staying so polite, but it is wasted effort on me. Sources exist, but I won't go through the trouble of giving it my best and then another blessed editor thinks it is not good enough for him and reverts. Now I will just go and look at some nice YOUTUBE videos of the old LORRIS organ. A very strange experience to watch a completely unverified organ playing, unreal, you should try it sometimes. No hard feelings, just a grumpy old disappointed editor (with ~100 started articles across 3 language wikipedias since 2004, when things were still fun and people tried to HELP each other to actually improve articles. I will stop wasting all our time now, you will have plenty more reverting to do, I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 22:05, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

You're not wasting my time at all, and I appreciate your compliment regarding my civility and conduct. I avoid battling fire with fire; it only just... makes more fire... and that's obviously not going to help. ;-) If you'll allow me, I'd like to add the content you wrote back to the article and then add a source as a citation for you. Do you know of a source that will be the best one that we can use? Would you be willing to locate one? I can do the rest from there. The most important thing out of all of this is that we're here to build an encyclopedia, and building an encyclopedia is what I must put above all else, including my wants, my "pride", or what would benefit me... This is why I'm here, and this is why I want to work with you. If anything, I hope to be the one user that you found to be different from the others and who cared enough to make things right. Who knows, maybe it'll help you consider changing your mind and perhaps joining us (or returning back) as an active member of the community (though having an account is entirely optional, it's definitely recommended). ;-) Let me know if you're okay with finding a source; I'll be happy to do the rest. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:27, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

see my comment further below. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 22:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

This is perhaps a silly question, but how do you know that that all this IP's edits were made by the same person? Adam9007 (talk) 21:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - I'm just looking at this user's formatting and edits to my user talk page here. This user picked up on how to indent their responses, was (attempting) to make an argument in regards to WP:PROVEIT (it seemed as if they've read this policy before), and the user has obviously been keeping an eye on this page in order to communicate. Compared to the level of skill that other new users have around here, this user obviously knows how to learn and has the potential to be a great editor if they really wanted to. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

I will conclude with providing two links (http://www.orgues-koenig.com/lorris-en-gatinais/ - the guys who did the restoration) and (http://lorris.org/index.php?action=orgue - "friends of the Lorris organ" group) that last one talks about "La date d'origine de l'orgue est indiquée par deux sources" two sources, neither of those we silly wikipedians can access easily. But for me it is safe to say that the organ dates from the early 16th century. An organ restorator and a group of friends of the organ say so. BUT those are self published web pages, no prime sources, so any proud trigger happy self righteous wikipedia editor will cite the appropriate policy and delete my hard work. no sir. The organ is there, but not according to Wikipedia policies. Keep up the hard work guys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.194.27.215 (talk) 22:35, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take a look and see what I can do. I can't make any promises. I know that we didn't meet in the best circumstances nor do so on the right foot, and I'm sorry for that. Please know that my user talk page is always open to you, and you are welcome to message me for input or assistance any time you need to. I'll be happy to lend a hand. Until we meet again... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:40, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Snapchat

Hi,

Are those violence threats? Adam9007 (talk) 00:45, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Adam9007! I'm taking a look now... They looked to be typical childish vandalism to me upon first read, but I'm gonna go back and get some more "context" out of what little sense they made... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Nah, they're just really crudely sexual in nature... AKA typical childish vandalism. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:53, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Yeah, it looked like childish vandalism to me too but of course I'm no expert in determining whether threats are genuine. Adam9007 (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Nah, you're fine. Had the vandalism said "slay her throat", I would've interpreted that as a potentially violent threat. Instead, it said "slay that vagina" followed by "smash her" afterwards in the next edit, with both terms being often used as a (pretty pejorative) reference to having sex. So, no violence. But definitely understandable for someone to raise concerns having read those edits... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Racist IP

Is this actionable, or should we just treat it as ordinary vandalism? Adam9007 (talk) 00:52, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - I just RD2'd it and blocked the IP for BLP violations. I was originally going to just leave it, but I have to put things in different shoes: If the edit had said the same thing but with the word "white" replaced with the word "black", it certainly would be considered an RD2. Hence, I went ahead and hit that revision with the revy devy. Vroom vroom! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm probably taking a risk by saying this, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who considers racism to work both ways :). Adam9007 (talk) 00:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - It's unacceptable in any form. While I believe that certain racist terms, remarks, and (horrible) jokes are much more severe than others (thinking in terms of the Jewish population, African American population, and others), I have to recognize that this is likely my own thoughts and bias. And I cannot let those thoughts influence how I handle situations and make decisions. I try my best to ask not what the easiest thing to do is, nor what the popular or the less-stressful thing to do is. I try to always ask, what's the right thing to do? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Well, racism is a sensitive subject, and I've been falsely accused of it here on Wikipedia more than once before. If an innocuous jocular comment can be misinterpreted as racist (you should know what I'm talking about), this report certainly could have been (yes, a part of me was actually afraid to make this report...). But I did it anyway because it was the right thing to do, as you say. Adam9007 (talk) 01:14, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

And speaking of racist edits: 1. Adam9007 (talk) 01:25, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Oh joy.... It is now smooshed. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Does this need revdelling?

This. (S)he's lucky that word means something else to people like me. Adam9007 (talk) 01:43, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Adam9007 - Argh another one... aaaand it's gone! XD... Oh, let's start emailing these requests to me instead of leaving them here. It's policy and we have to do it... not to mention the fact that I have 1000 people who actively watch this page... lol. Avoiding the Streisand effect is going to be especially important here. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Who are u

who are u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:19B:8500:4A50:C195:2EBD:16D1:9C66 (talk) 01:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm Oshwah! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:29, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

LakesideMiners^{Come Talk To Me!} 14:43, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

BDP/COI/UAA alphabet soup

Hi Oshwah! Hope all is well in your corner of the wiki. I saw some edits on my watchlist from a new account, and given their nature, I think the situation might merit some review from an admin who can handle things with sensitivity before the templates start flying. So I checked to see who was online and here I am. Contribs, for background. Thanks in advance! – Levivich 02:03, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Levivich! Sure, no problem; always happy to help! I'll take a look and see what I can do... ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Levivich -  Done (permalink). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the swift response as always! – Levivich 02:18, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Levivich - You bet. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Levivich - LOL, I just now read the section header you put for this discussion. For the record, I let out a loud snort while laughing in the middle of a quiet public place because of you... Thanks for that. Hope you got more of that alphabet soup to share :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Sure... whenever I stop by your talk page I try to bring some soup or something to go with my whine :-) – Levivich 14:01, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Murder of Tessa Majors

Here's the thing: it is objectively true information and my contributions are objective facts which do not include any point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hannahqfowler (talk • contribs) 22:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @Hannahqfowler: We actually don't care what the truth is; we care about verifiability. Further, you admit to having a conflict of interest compounded by the fact that you think your beliefs belong in an article. People like reading Wikipedia because they trust us to not let content become skewed. Please respect our policies and accept that you can't make edits this way. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hannahqfowler - I completely understand that you feel that way. But you went into this article with the intent on changing it from being focused on the murder of this article subject to be "remembered for her life", and because the way it's presenting information right now is "insensitive". You wrote this in your edit summaries while you were making inappropriate changes to the article. How is this thought, and your intentions on changing the article's narrative regarding the murder, not a particular point of view? How is this objective, as you worded it above?

Hannahqfowler, I'm not blaming you or trying to say that I don't have any level of compassion or understanding in regards to how you feel. However, I have to reemphasize my point: The fact that you are personally and emotionally involved with this article subject is causing you to make changes to the article that are inappropriate and not in compliance with Wikipedia's neutrality policy. This is why you cannot make edits to the article directly. If you wish to have changes made, you need to file an edit request so that another editor can review your request, approve it (assuming no issues are found), and make those changes on your behalf. Wikipedia has a number of core principles regarding how we build this encyclopedia, and I highly recommend that you take some time and complete our new user tutorial so that you can learn and understand them. After you've done so, I believe that you'll see why they're necessary and important. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you for the message. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Please explain

The International Bounty Hunter Union is a bona fide organization. Please explain why you deleted it from the page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.76.152.199 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

• Whether they're bona fide or not is irrelevant. We are not a directory for organizational links. Drmies (talk) 04:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! See the response left above. Wikipedia is not a directory or list of links to organization and company websites. Depending on the links being added, it can be considered as spamming or trying to advertise by doing this. Please review the policies and guidelines that I've lined you to, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Why delete my userpage?

It didn't have a webhost thing or something, i just said some things what i did and stuff. De --CBTover (talk) 09:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

CBTover, you added what appeared to be your Wikipedia account password to your userpage. It said, "Hi my pass is [PASSWORD]" (or something very close). I had to delete that page under any guideline so that I could suppress that information and make sure that it couldn't be found. If I am incorrect and if that wasn't you trying to put your password on your user page, please accept my apologies for the mistake and the misinterpretation. If that was you adding your password to your user page, yeah... umm... don't do that. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

understandable, have a nice day --CBTover (talk) 09:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

CBTover - That wasn't your Wikipedia account password that you added to your user page, was it? ... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for catching my mistake there. XXX antiuser ^eh? 10:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Antiuser - No problem; always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:33, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Ubnutu 18.04.3 lts

On virtualbox i have 10gb space, and 2.2 gib ram, it keeps freezing, do i need more ram? It only has 3gb space left. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:57, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Thegooduser - What happens exactly when Ubuntu "freezes"? You need to describe this much more in-depth so that I have an understanding of exactly what's going on. When is it freezing? What are you doing when it happens? Does it happen at the same place, in the same program, or during the same process each time? Or is it random or unpredictable? Is 2.2 GB how much RAM your physical system has? Or is it how much you're allocating to the VM? You can try increasing the amount of RAM, but I wouldn't expect having a less-than-adequate amount allocated to the VM to be the cause of crashes to the OS. If anything, it would run very slow and it would notify you of issues concerning low memory. Your hard drive is fine; if Ubuntu fits and installs, then it works. You'll just have only 3 GB of HDD space to play with is all... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:41, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

When I watch youtube it crashes, also when i plug in my computer while using virtual box the fan starts screaming and when i unplug it the fan goes quiet, does increasing the ram in it take up system ram? I have 12gb ram but only have about 8 gigs of system ram left... Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

2.2 gib is how much the vm has, physical system has 12. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 02:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thegooduser - You could try increasing the amount of RAM that you're allocating to the VM, but I very much doubt that it's going to resolve the issues that you're seeing with it. Yes, when you tell VirtualBox that you'd like it to allocate a certain amount of RAM toward the virtual machine you're using, it uses the physical RAM that you have in your system to make that happen. So, if your system has 12 GB of RAM installed and you tell VirtualBox to allocate 2 GB to your VM, you can expect your system to be unable to use that 2 GB of RAM while that VM is running. 12 GB of total system RAM seems like an odd amount to have, but it could be that you actually have 16 GB of RAM installed. It's perfectly normal in laptop computers for your graphics card or other hardware components to utilize the "on-board memory" it needs by telling your BIOS to allocate it from your system RAM. My old HP laptop does this for my graphics card's memory. It sounds like you need to change or reset your fan / cooling profile in your system to something else. It seems like it's not spinning up your fans automatically based on the current system's temperature and needs, but instead just setting them to 100% when certain events occur (such as you plugging your laptop into AC power). You'll need to check with your instruction manual for exactly how to do this. For my system, I can change its cooling profile in the BIOS or do so by downloading a program within Windows - I always choose the former. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar for you!

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		Thank you for telling that you can change my username i did not know that Sended by:Combo Panda

Peter Chinnery

Oshwah ref your message of Feb 19 I've just picked it up so apologies for not responding earlier. Its been so long I've forgotten the edit, can you remind me? """" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.74.139 (talk) 16:55, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The edit is this one. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 18:39, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk Abenaki Nation

Hi Oshwah. Could you please take a look at Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk Abenaki Nation? A new editor as well as an IP(could be the same person accidentally editing logged out) are removing sourced content and adding unsourced content. I added sources to the unsourced content they added yesterday, they removed the sourcing and added a bunch of new content that I simply do not have time to add sources to (it's kind of a lot). I left them a note yesterday about adding and removing content yesterday and low and behold they did it again today en mass. It is possible they are the (un?)official tribal historian given their user name. Thanks in advance. Indigenous girl (talk) 22:24, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

After taking a second look it was two IPs. This has been occurring over a four day period. Indigenous girl (talk) 22:46, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Indigenous girl! I took a look at the article's edit history and saw that you've reverted those edits made, and that some of those revisions were RD1'd. Your edit is still the article's current revision, and the net changes from before 2020 and today (diff) appears to be okay. I don't see any blatant red flags, paragraphs of unreferenced content, or possible original research added. Do things look okay as it is now? Or am I missing something? Let me know if the issues continue, and I'll close the front gate with a grey lock for awhile. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:09, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah! Yes I reverted and then Corbie hid the edits that were problematic after I dropped her a note as well and commented on the WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America. Hopefully the editor(s) will respond to my queries and add the content after they are able to source it and fix the copyvios :) Indigenous girl (talk) 20:56, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Indigenous girl - Sweet deal; thanks for the update! If there's anything I can do to help, just give me a holler! ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:59, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Rida888/sandbox

Hi Osh... You have blocked this user (socking I believe): I came upon the s/bx draft via AFC/userspace submissions. It had been tagged for speedy as promotional; which I removed. I then went to tag 'in use' so as to clean it up and got the blocked pink-message at the top of the page (didn't see it when rmvg speedy). I'm not certain of the correct procedure as the creator is blocked. Should it be speedied as G5? Cheers Eagleash (talk) 00:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh... never mind, Robert McL has moved it to draft space. Eagleash (talk) 00:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Eagleash - No worries; glad it's been taken care of. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:10, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

rollbacker

Hi Oshwah, I'm interested in having access to this tool. Tks, --Nyook ✉ 18:22, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Nyook - No problem;  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

You took away my correction for Unum

I am the Unum corrections person. I know what need me to be there. You don’t. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnumCorrect (talk • contribs) 19:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Really? Unreferenced?

I pulled it DIRECTLY FROM THE DEATHS IN 2020 ARTICLE AND IT IS ALREADY IN THE INFOBOX. SOMEONE FORGOT TO ADD IT TO THE MAIN ARTICLE. DO YOU PEOPLE JUST REMOVE THINGS BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE IT? DO YOU BOTHER TO EVEN READ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.156 (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

No. That's not how it works. If you add content like that to an article, you must support that content with citations to reliable sources - period. This is required for articles that are biographies of living persons (including recently deceased people). No source? Then no content. I've semi-protected the article due to this issue; you're welcome to discuss it on the article's talk page and collaborate with others in order to locate reliable sources and update the article in compliance with policy. Thank you - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:20, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	That has to be the fastest deletion i've seen, ever. You deleted it just as I was CSDing it! Thanks for your hard work on anti vandalism (and thoroughly surprising me) MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 19:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf! Thank you for the message, the barnstar, and for the very kind words. Yeah, I noticed that you had tagged the page for G11 at the same time that I was pressing the 'delete' button. HA! Good timing! ;-) Thanks again for the message, and I appreciate your hard work with recent changes patrolling and the time you spend keeping the project clean. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm honestly not the most capable when handling article space, so instead I handle everything else, and so far that's worked quite nicely. Any edit from new/learning users that are outside article space I'll notice.. Wish there was some sort of subdivision tool, that split the feed up a bit among multiple people so that trying to watch all recent changes wasn't a endless barrage that simply can't be methodically processed. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - Have you look at this list of tools? They'll definitely help make patrolling recent changes and reverting vandalism and disruption an absolute breeze. Let me know if you have questions about any of these tools or which ones to recommend, and I'll be happy to help. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer, but the main problem is that I do the majority of my editing on a school-provided chromebook, which does not support running the majority of tools (webapps only). --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 20:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - Oof. Yeah, that's going to restrict the list of programs and external tools you can download, install, and use. The tool that I'd recommend for you would be Lupin's Anti-vandal tool. It's web-based and and works right in your browser, it's easy to use, it filters recent changes based on their likelihood that they're bad faith, and it gives you the ability to easily and quickly revert bad changes. It's one of the first recent changes patrolling tools that I used back in the day when I was building my proficiency with patrolling, and I used it for many years. Give that tool a try and see what you think... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

One quick check later.. and the tool seems to no longer work, at least for me. Shame. Maybe, once I have freetime, and am at home, I could just work on my own tool (Haven't touched JS in ages, will have to jog my memory a bit. I've spent too much time using Rust.) We'll see. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Correction, it does work, but it doesn't like it when I tab away, which I do to an excessive degree. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 21:23, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - I was just about to say... I saw that you added the import call to the correct page; it should work. ;-) "Tab away"? As in you navigate or click over to another open tab in your browser? It seems to work fine when I use the filtered changes feed and go back-and-forth between tabs in my browser... What exactly does it do when you do this? Yes, it's definitely an old tool. It was around when I was somewhat new to patrolling, so we're talking 11 years at least... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

tl;dr it slowly accumulates "Updating..." notices, as Chrome doesn't seem to like it processing in the background, likely due to the low-end hardware. I might try and fix that myself in a bit, as the script seems fairly well documented. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 21:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - Interesting... I'd see if it does the same thing on an entirely different computer and OS. If it doesn't, then you're probably correct in that the Chromebook is to blame. If it does, then you'll obviously know that the issue isn't related to any factors outside of the browser. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:39, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I decided that poking around at designing my own tools would be more fun. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - Yeah, that would sound like more fun to me as well. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:37, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

1 hour and 40 minutes later, I have the heart and soul of a antivandal tool, pattern matching, in a nice, configurable, and usable state. Now just to draw the rest of the owl. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 04:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I am so glad I chose to use OOUI instead of doing what tools like twinkle do (build their own UI from scratch). Now I got something of a test bed, which really I should've made earlier. User:Moonythedwarf/HandymanFilterInterface. And of course I have a frontend now. libavtools provides the underlying vandalism-fighting/detecting tools, handyman functions as a frontend and UI for these tools, and provides some of its own tools as well when they're not really appropriate for libavtools (i.e. anything messing with UI). So far so good. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 17:45, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - NICE! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!

You're better and smarter than all the Microsoft technicians combined ;), just don't eat the goat, i don't know if it taste good...

Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:50, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Thegooduser! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Huggle

Huggle Mess Up

I messed it up by accident, right clicking to add back the stuff don't do anything, and reinstalling it does not do anything too... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Those settings might be saved to your huggle.yaml.js file instead of your computer's settings (I've noticed that some are and some aren't). Does reverting that file back to the day before you messed up your Huggle resolve the issue? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, I might actually be incorrect here. The last change that was made there was when you resolved the issue with the oldest edits being automatically removed from the queue when it fills up, which was back on December 27, 2019. Local computer settings for Huggle will be saved in your AppData folder within Windows. You could try locating it, renaming the folder to add a '1' or something similar to the end, and then re-launching Huggle afterwards. It'll believe that no local settings are saved and it might resolve that issue when it reverts back to default views. Be warned that you'll need to change some Huggle settings back to the values you wish before using Huggle again; those local files store those settings and won't be available after you rename the directory. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:47, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Civility

Hi Oshwah, could you please try to explain this new editor that this sort of comments are not per Wikipedia:Civility (plus the edit-warring) - [2] ? I did my best here to go per BLP which was met with the same sort of comments - [3] Thank you kindly, cheers Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 01:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Sadko - Sure, I can talk to the user about it. Thanks for the message and for letting me know. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Sadko -  Done (diff, permalink). ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Revert and revdel on The Amazing Johnathan

I was about to revert that same edit because it looks like typical vandalism, but a quick Google search shows it was probably accurate. The added content was cited to the documentary, so it wasn't unsourced. Surachit (talk) 02:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Surachit! Thanks for leaving me a message about this and for letting me know. I understand that the content points to the documentary itself as a reference, and that your research shows this to likely be true. However, any content that's contentious or negative in nature about a biography of a living person must reference a reliable source that's secondary and independent of the article subject. Merely pointing to that documentary or the IMDb link of the documentary isn't enough. Hence, I'm going to leave the revision alone and keep it rev del'd. If anything, this will prevent someone from accidentally restoring the article to that revision in the future, which would publish the content and without the references required. If you have any further questions or objections, please let me know and I'll be happy to discuss this with you further. Again, I appreciate you for taking the time to message me and let me know about this. I hope you have a great day and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:35, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit Reverted

Hello,

I recently attempted to revise the article page named "Mobolaji Dawodu" and wanted to know how I could fix it? thanks in advance for the help.

Dawodu Assistant (talk) 02:27, 21 January 2020 (UTC)Dawodu Assistant

Hi Dawodu Assistant! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your wish to modify the article and improve it. Looking at the edit summary that you left with your edit to the article here, you state that you were attempting to edit the article "to have updated information while removing information that was too specific per the request of Mobolaji Dawodu himself." Are you editing Wikipedia and this article on behalf of Mobolaji Dawodu himself? If so, then you have a clear conflict of interest with the article subject and hence you should not edit the article yourself. You should make edit requests on the article's talk page instead, so that other editors can review, approve, and make those changes for you. You should also encourage Mobolaji Dawodu to follow these instructions in order to contact the Wikipedia Volunteer Response Team. They have the tools and training necessary in order to verify his identity and resolve his particular issues and concerns with the article. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you further. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great rest of your day. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Hakethant

Looks to me like he was reverting vandalism. DuncanHill (talk) 03:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi DuncanHill! The user's edits themselves seem okay, but their edit summaries were the complete opposite. They were blatantly malicious and sexually explicit, and there's no question that they were inappropriate. I'm almost wondering if this account is part of a series of "good hand, bad hand" editing... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

I can't say I recall the summary at Slum, but I don't think it struck me as objectionable. DuncanHill (talk) 03:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DuncanHill - "Decadent fart queef" is what it said. That one was probably the least-explicit and least-inappropriate edit summary compared to the others he left... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:15, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Ah, Decadent Fart Queef, fell apart after their difficult second album. DuncanHill (talk) 03:22, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

DuncanHill - Heh, what? Am I missing something? lol... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Usernames and email addresses

How come IP addresses don't have an email address here? 2001:569:78BE:4700:A8BF:5DB1:C76:8CC8 (talk) 03:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your question! That's because of the fact that IP addresses refer to anonymous users who don't have an account on Wikipedia. IP addresses can also often be public networks, shared between many users, and are often reassigned from one end user to another and without their knowledge or control. If we were to establish and hook email addresses to non-static information such as an IP addresses, it would result in numerous problems that would be wide-reaching and impossible to resolve. Your IP address could suddenly be assigned to someone else, and your email address would no longer be connected to the correct IP address that your computer or device uses. To be able to add an email address and configure it in your preferences, you will need to create and use a Wikipedia account. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

A Request

Would it be possible if you could hide this edit [4] due to vilely worded harassment by, apparently, an IP-hopping troll?--Mr Fink (talk) 06:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Apokryltaros!  Done. :-) Next time, you'll want to email rev del requests to me instead of leaving them here where they're publicly visible. At the time of this writing, just over 1000 editors have this page added to their watchlist, and emailing me these requests privately will help to prevent the Streisand effect from taking place, as people will be notified of your request, and will then quickly rush over to view the content before they lose the ability to see it. ;-) No worries though; it's not a big deal... we just want to make sure that we avoid drawing attention to revisions that need to be hidden from the public, and for obvious reasons... lol. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

And now I know better.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Apokryltaros - No worries; please don't hesitate to reach out to me if I can be of assistance with anything else. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:04, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Email usage notice

You have quite the notice there with your Email User page. Is it possible to set up a custom notice for my own email, or is this a right reserved for Interface Admins? --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 07:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Moonythedwarf! Nope, you can do it too! Just go to this page in order to set one for yourself! Let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:54, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:Featured Article deletion.. failed?

Even after you deleted it, all edit history somehow persisted and rose from the grave. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - The user recreated the template page after it was deleted (twice) and added the same content back to it. Edits were made back-and-forth since the last recreation, which made it appear as if the template was recreated and pulled out of the grave. However, this didn't happen. Also, make sure you're not confusing Template:Featured Article (the template that the user created) with Template:Featured article (the legitimate template used on featured articles)... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Oshwah, Yea, I wasn't making that mistake, mostly due to the fact every single retag was me clicking [rollback] from the recent changes page. --MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 09:31, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Moonythedwarf - Heh, well, the user is blocked now. If you see this page get recreated, let me know so I can take a look. It'll likely be because of sock puppetry... ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

source / citation for my edit on "Maria B" wiki

Hello!

please have a look at this source. This is so far most relevant and useful information found on the subject. Everything You need to Know about Maria B. Let me know what do you think. :) Moreover, if you Google "who is Maria B" , this source pops up in Google Feedback too. just FYI :)

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmad affan x (talk • contribs) 10:52, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ahmad affan x, and thank you for leaving me a message here regarding your edits to Maria B. Unfortunately, the reference you linked me to above appear to be from a blog or similar website. This external page also does not cite or reference any of their sources to support where they are getting their content or information from, which makes this unverifiable to readers - especially when it comes to a biography of a living person. Please see Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources, and reliable sources for biographies of living persons for more information. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Death threats

Did you tell the foundation? I also found this.[5] Doug Weller talk 14:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Doug Weller! Yes, I've emailed the emergency team regarding the threats. Thanks for letting me know about the additional account. If you see any more, do let me know so that I can make sure that everything on my end is taken care of (assuming you don't already have it handled). I'm also available to help with anything if needed; you know where to find me! ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:42, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. No point in my dealing with it as I'm sure you're doing a good job of it! Doug Weller talk 14:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Doug Weller - I appreciate the confidence and the kind words - Thank you. :-) Nonetheless, feel free to reach out to me should you have questions or need anything. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:50, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello

HI my name is chad. Whats your name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chad12345654321 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Chad12345654321! Welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Oshwah. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can answer any questions or help you with anything, and I'll be happy to do so. Have you gone through Wikipedia's new user tutorial yet? If not, you definitely should! It'll provide you with a lot of good information and help with getting started. Happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

New message from Target Barsado

Hello, Oshwah. You have new messages at [[User talk:Target Barsado#Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed|Target Barsado's talk page]].
Message added 17:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, I would like to apply for the Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed in good faith to contribute and use tools and assist in vandalism. Thanks, Target Barsado (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)