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::Normally we dont cover these 'new' concepts at wikipedia. I '''support merge''' as this content would be fine in the existing article. Thank you! [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 18:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::Normally we dont cover these 'new' concepts at wikipedia. I '''support merge''' as this content would be fine in the existing article. Thank you! [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 18:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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== usage: blockchain phone, blockchain OS ==

World’s First True Blockchain Phone is “BOB,” which stands for “Blok On Blok.” -users will be able to switch between Android and blockchain modes on their phones. ''BOB has its own blockchain operating system or OS, called Function X or f(x). When BOB is set to blockchain mode, every bit of data sent through the phone is executed through a blockchain, which makes BOB the first truly blockchain-powered phone in the world.'' [https://medium.com/swlh/blockchain-phone-secure-decentralized-98aa370f3ef2]

First blockchain phone call was made in 2018[https://medium.com/pundix/making-the-worlds-first-blockchain-phone-call-66784b5436ee]

there were prior to that " blockchain-based" phones but were really more blockchain-focused phones starting with HTC. [https://medium.com/@bitassetglobal/5-blockchain-phones-for-crypto-holders-899a56c1cd8c] [https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/02/28/66000/what-the-hell-is-a-blockchain-phoneand-do-i-need-one/]

Revision as of 02:08, 27 April 2020

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The lack of commercial deployments

I was going to add the following however I note that it was written 10 months ago. Include or not? The lack of commercial deployments for blockchains has been attributed to their expense, complexity and inefficient energy use.[1]

References

  1. ^ Saifedean Ammous (4 February 2016). "Blockchain Won't Make Banks Any Nimbler". American Banker. SourceMedia. Retrieved 8 December 2016.


Unreadable to the uninitiated

For someone uninformed about the general subject matter who, say, simply wants to understand what blockchains are sufficiently to comprehend the text in which they first saw it used, this article is useless. It gives no actual explanation of what they actually are, and only confuses further by using a plethora of what some might call additional technical mumbo jumbo. There's plenty of room for that stuff, but the introduction should at least in part be used to give context to the topic, explain the very basics and give a small number of tangible, comprehensible facts which help readers place blockchains in a sort of mental category, before the article delves into rattling off all the theoretical specifications, history and various uses of blockchains.

File size convention

I added a sentence that updated the discussion of the Bitcoin ledger for 2020. It felt appropriate to give size in gibibytes rather than gigabytes, as the normal convention has changed in the last few years. For something that is changing daily, it doesn't really change substance to say "over 200 GB" vs "over 200 GiB", and past year figures are round numbers not precise as well. But this does leave a minor inconsistency in units in the article. I'm tempted to change the rest in same paragraph to 'GiB'. Memories of lost time (talk) 18:10, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Blockchain-based database into Blockchain

The subject is not particularly notable to warrant a separate article of its own, and there are substantial overlaps between the two articles. Mopswade (talk) 10:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The sources referenced in the Blockchain article claim that a blockchain is a database. Thus, the "blockchain-based database" term is similarly meaningful as a "database-based database" term. Are you sure that the sources using this problematic term are reliable and independent? Ladislav Mecir (talk) 11:44, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@David Gerard: comments on this? The merge looks logical to me at first glance, as I thought that all blockchains were a database by definition. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 12:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, they're definitely a datastore, and I've never heard "blockchain-based database" used as a technical term. Looking at Blockchain-based database, it's not clear why anyone would do this ... but I'd say that article should be a section of this one - David Gerard (talk) 17:19, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I checked the text of the article proposed to be merged. As far as I can tell, the only source mentioning the "blockchain-based database" term is [1], while the source [2] and other sources use the standard blockchain term instead. When merging, I think that we should use the standard blockchain term when referring to such databases exactly as, e.g. the source [2] and many other sources do. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 05:35, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Guys! This article somewhat mixing new blockchain tech with old database tech. And, we are looking at a very new application or an iteration.[3][4] At present, I am not sure whether this topic deserves a separate article or not. But, it does have the potential to have one in the near future. - Hatchens (talk) 15:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
For everyone's attention, this particular source [5] is talking about Blockchain relational database. And, it is explaining the same concept as mentioned in the article (which we intend to merge). - Hatchens (talk) 16:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Normally we dont cover these 'new' concepts at wikipedia. I support merge as this content would be fine in the existing article. Thank you! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 18:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Gaetani, Edoardo; Aniello, Leonardo; Baldoni, Roberto; Lombardi, Federico; Margheri, Andrea; Sassone, Vladimiro (2017). "Blockchain-based database to ensure data integrity in cloud computing environments" (PDF). Edoardo Gaetani, Leonardo Aniello, Roberto Baldoni, Federico Lombardi, Andrea Margheri, Vladimiro Sassone. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
  2. ^ a b Casino, Fran; K. Dasaklis, Thomas; Patsakisa, Constantinos (March 2019). "A systematic literature review of blockchain-based applications: Current status, classification and open issues". Telematics and Informatics. 36. Elsevier: 55–81. doi:10.1016/j.tele.2018.11.006. ISSN 0736-5853 – via Elsevier Science Direct.
  3. ^ U.S. Air Force to pilot blockchain-based database for data sharing https://www.computerworld.com/article/3519917/us-air-force-to-pilot-blockchain-based-database-for-data-sharing.html
  4. ^ IBM Files Patent for a Blockchain Database Management System https://www.ccn.com/ibm-files-patent-for-a-blockchain-database-management-system/
  5. ^ NathanSenthil; GovindarajanChander; SarafAdarsh; SethiManish; JayachandranPraveen (2019-07-01). "Blockchain meets database". Proceedings of the VLDB Endowment. doi:10.14778/3342263.3342632.

usage: blockchain phone, blockchain OS

World’s First True Blockchain Phone is “BOB,” which stands for “Blok On Blok.” -users will be able to switch between Android and blockchain modes on their phones. BOB has its own blockchain operating system or OS, called Function X or f(x). When BOB is set to blockchain mode, every bit of data sent through the phone is executed through a blockchain, which makes BOB the first truly blockchain-powered phone in the world. [1]

First blockchain phone call was made in 2018[2]

there were prior to that " blockchain-based" phones but were really more blockchain-focused phones starting with HTC. [3] [4]