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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Forbidden History (talk | contribs) at 08:25, 19 January 2021 (→‎Forbidden History arbitration enforcement sanction). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

IP block evasion

Hello! Thank you so much for banning 93.164.22.202 yesterday following their edit-warring behavior. However after about 3 hours later, another IP (192.38.140.42) went and reverted one of the pages again. This was the same IP that I suspected to be the same person in the report as they have been editing and reverting the same information as 93. Here are some of their past reverts that exhibit the same behavior: [1] [2] [3] They all follow the trend of adding fake Denmark positions and reverting whenever someone reverts their fake positions. It is also almost always accompanied by "(Tags: Mobile edit, Mobile web edit, Visual edit, Manual revert)" and nothing else in the edit summary.

But that's not all! After I reverted 192's edit and fixed the rest of the vandalized articles, a second IP (192.38.136.10 - note the last two numbers are different from the first one) appeared and reverted the same exact things as the first two. If you look at their contributions, you will find that it's a new account that only reverts the same things on the exact same pages. Here are their reverts: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] I'm pretty positive they are all the same person.

Not only is this a form of IP block evasion, but they clearly have not learned their lesson on edit warring and have continued to do so. I'm hoping something can be done about this. Thank you! T  CloseDatMouf 16:50, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked Special:Contributions/192.38.128.0/20 for a month. Hope that helps. Let me know if further IPs appear doing the same things. EdJohnston (talk) 17:52, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! I'll be sure to let you know if they come back. Cheers! T  CloseDatMouf 18:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of Box-Office bombs

I have articles that show Justice League was able to break even after release like Waterworld was. Zomgrose (talk) 03:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Zomgrose: - you should be posting to Talk:List of biggest box-office bombs to discuss issues regarding that article, not people's user-pages. FYI - wolf 03:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]

Anorther long Balkan discussion

I am coming here due to your experience with this kind of stuff. There is an ANI discussion that has basically attracted half of Balkan editors. They are accusing each other and proposing sanctions against others involved. Maybe you are willing to take a look, and maybe act or close the discussion. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That complaint should be at WP:AE. An admin who tried to take action based on a thread like this would risk making a mistake, since the evidence is not well organized and is not easy to digest. EdJohnston (talk) 17:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, AE is much better place. However, Balkan editors rarely are willing to go there, as reports there are more likely to end with both sides sanctioned :P If nobody closes the report without action, I assume it will be automatically archived after a few days. It is sad so much energy is wasted while it could be used to improve content. Ktrimi991 (talk) 18:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AN3 Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

I wanted to think you fro responding so quickly on my report of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). I was trying, and it looks like some other people were also, to credit cast members for guest appearances. In the history, it looks like the user keeps arguing with people about it. I know IMDB links were sourced, but user kept deleting and saying this isn't IMDB. Is that no longer a valid source for media pages here, and is there anywhere I can go from here to correct this? Thanks! Ev Thom (talk) 17:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Try asking at WT:TV. EdJohnston (talk) 17:49, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Block-evading sock

Hi. You recently blocked 197.89.10.25, now IP 197.86.195.162 has appeared to take their place editing Baby Esther.

Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have semiprotected Baby Esther due to the IP-hopping edit war. EdJohnston (talk) 01:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ilirida article

Has been disrupted by two IPs trying to add a country infobox, although the subject was never a country [10]. Since persistent socking took place in the past to add the same infobox, maybe a short semi-protection would be of help. Ktrimi991 (talk) 00:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Due to the long history of trouble at this article while it was named Republic of Ilirida, I've applied indefinite semi. This protection can be lifted if the problem goes away. EdJohnston (talk) 01:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Since the article has a very low traffic with minor edits once in a few months, indefinite semi-protection is a good idea. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:33, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apollonia

There has been no opposition about the use of the Greek name as the talkpage topic reveals Talk:Apollonia_(Illyria)#Alternative_names (since 11 Jan.). Nevertheless Iaof decided once again to resort in revert warring without slightest talkpage page participation. Definitely a page protection is thnot the most appropriate way to deal with this kind of disruption.Alexikoua (talk) 21:12, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is the easiest way to always blame someone else. Anyways danke EdJohnston for the protection, it is definitely of help.--Lorik17 (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Iaof: endless revert warring without taking time to discuss the issue is not cool. Page protection is not enough for this kind of disruption.Alexikoua (talk) 21:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Warring about a map of the Republic of Mahabad

Original title was: Disruption (again..)

Hi Ed, you might remember this user [11] - he has been more or less disruptive in all his edits. His edits mainly include attempts to remove this map of the Republic of Mahabad from articles and replace it with an altered much smaller version of [12] and even [13], which is not even a map of Mahabad, but the Kurdistan province. He has been reverted multiple times, yet he occasionally comes back and tries his luck again [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]. Seems like WP:TENDENTIOUS and WP:NOTHERE to me. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(The capital of the Republic of Mahabad was the city of Mahabad, in northwestern Iran. The state encompassed a small territory, including Mahabad and the adjacent cities of Piranshahr and Naghadeh.[7] The republic's foundation and demise was a part of the Iran crisis during the opening stages of the Cold War.)Please read the text of this article here is for by Mahabad and the surrounding cities, but in the map of Urmia, Salmas, Mako, Khoy, Shut, etc., it is part of the Republic of Mahabad. Mahammad tt (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(From Sardasht to Mahabad and Buchan and Saqqez, the republic stretched)source:https://www.dana.ir/news/1285607.html/واکاوی-یک-واقعه-تاریخی--جمهوری-مهاباد-از-ظهور-تا-سقوط,Historians Ehsan Hooshmand and Abdolaziz Moloudi Mahammad tt (talk) 18:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear EdJohnston, these are Armenians and anti-Turkish Kurds, and they spread hatred against the Turks without any source.I hope you judge fairly Mahammad tt (talk) 18:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Who exactly are the 'Armenians and anti-Turkish Kurds'? When you answer, be careful about WP:ASPERSIONS. EdJohnston (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am careful not to slander anyone, I mean these are the people who spread hatred without a source(sumsuri,luckie luck,historyofiran) Mahammad tt (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My other sources:http://wikifeqh.ir/حزب_دموکرات_آذربایجان ، http://www.ensafnews.com/203165/در-مورد-قاضی-محمد-و-حکومت-جمهوری-مهاباد/ Mahammad tt (talk) 19:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:Mahammad tt, since you have accused User:HistoryofIran of 'spreading hatred without a source' I've indefinitely blocked your account. See WP:GAB for your appeal options. EdJohnston (talk) 19:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You closed a recent 3RR discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive424#User:ThereWillBeTime reported by User:Ss112 (Result: Page protected) about some reversions at Season of the Witch (song). I came across the article through an orphaned fair use file and reverted the section deletion, not knowing there was a talk page discussion at Talk:Season of the Witch (song)#Lana Del Rey Section (which the two editors involved did heed your instructions to use the talk page). I added my thoughts to the discussion and explained how the article should be taken back to the pre-BOLD edit per WP:BRD with an ongoing discussion and no consensus for the change. I then reverted the section deletion, which User:ThereWillBeTime reverted five minutes later telling me to use the talk page while they did not do the same. I feel that ThereWillBeTime is edit warring and I would appreciate it if you could at least explain to them the concept of WP:BRD, which both @Ss112: and I tried to do unsuccessfully. Aspects (talk) 00:35, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I left a note for User:ThereWillBeTime. EdJohnston (talk) 05:19, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Forbidden History arbitration enforcement sanction

Hi EdJohnston, I've been notified about the sanction, but I didn't found any summary that explains my faulty behavior that led to this sanction. So, I would like to understand what I did wrong (so, I don't repeat them in the future (Except the 3RR-which I explained why I did it)), to get this sanction. Thanks, --Forbidden History (talk) 12:38, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The problems were explained at ANI, prompted by a dispute which began on 9 January at Law for the Protection of Macedonian National Honour. The rest of the story is in the AE thread which is linked from your ban notice. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:13, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
EdJohnston, on that ANI explanation, there are my concerns about the user Jingiby as well, but I don't see that he was sanctioned or warned about his WP:BITE. Initially this started as 3RR-not respected by my side (and I explained why and how it happened). So, limitless topic ban for 3RR, I think it's way to rigorous sanction. That's why I'm asking to give me a summary of my violated rules per Wikipedia, so I don't do them in the future, or to appeal. Thanks,--Forbidden History (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About my restriction

Hey, in regards to my temporary ban on editing articles on American politics post-1932, would articles like the Abraham Accords, Israel–Sudan normalization agreement and Israel–Morocco normalization agreement count towards this? Just wanted to double check since I'd assume not as they are not to do with American politics per say but America had a minor role as a mediary for some of these agreements between other countries. Like, how big is the scope in regards to "American" politics? Is anything not US-internalised or US-centered fair game or is anything that has had any involvement with America whatsoever off limits no matter how minor like say a UN resolution article that's not US focused at all but was signed by 50 countries with one of them happening to be the US? Davefelmer (talk) 00:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that the United States was involved in arranging those agreements, so unfortunately those fall under your American politics ban. EdJohnston (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]