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Question on remix title formatting[edit]

Hi, Ss112. Sorry to both you again, but I've learned a lot from your edits and asking you questions. Do you know if it's preferred to write the title of a remix like "Song Title (Name of Remix)" or "Song Title" (Name of Remix), the difference being the placement of the close quote? I've seen both used on different featured album articles, and I can't find anything in manuals of style. Anyway, thanks in advance. CelestialWeevil (talk) 00:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@CelestialWeevil: It's mostly a matter of personal choice. Personally, I prefer "Song Title" (Name of Remix) as generally, the remix is a note of a version of that song and not the actual title. The song's name is "Song Title" and what's in parentheses is a note. Same with "Song Title" (acoustic version) or whether it's live, a demo, etc. Ss112 00:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Music/Archive 8#RfC: Descriptive phrases and song titles is probably relevant. (I've also just noticed that no one actually edited the guidelines to reflect this, so maybe that should be done...?) Jc86035 (talk) 18:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Source stating it.[edit]

I know you said you were done discussing that but I hope that what I do now is okay. While the article does not state it, I wonder, if Cher's Billboard chart history (of course the lne published by billboard) is enough of a source for the claim. When going through her history on album charts, no number one position can be found on any chart.

If that is not enough, then no problem. TioTayumi (talk) 21:13, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@TioTayumi: The issue I have with that is that Billboard also publishes things like the "German Albums Chart", where they measure the sales of albums and songs in other countries. Most of these are relegated to being published on, but technically if Cher's even had one album reach the top on any of those lesser-known charts for other countries' sales, she's had a number-one album on a Billboard chart. There's 185 pages of results if you want to check: [1] Ss112 21:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I understand. My claim came from checking this: (after selecting and going through everything of course) but I guess since you gave me the other link, I guess the one I just handed is not enough. I might check your link over the course if time but unless the one I gave is enough, I completely understand it and will leave it with "on that chart". — Preceding unsigned comment added by TioTayumi (talkcontribs) 21:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Hi Ss112, do you have access to by any chance? —IB [ Poke ] 10:57, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Hey, unfortunately I don't. Are you sure whatever you want to look for isn't accessible through the home page by clicking on the "Charts" tab and searching? I think most data is accessible through that method, although it's very disorganised and a pain to get through for artists with long histories. Ss112 11:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Yeah I was searching for "Shallow" on the Luxembourg and Portugal charts, but the search did not return anything. No problem thanks for your response :) —IB [ Poke ] 11:12, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Ss112, do you know how to find out the direct link to the Swedish Compilation chart like how you added for "Shallow"? —IB [ Poke ] 14:13, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
@IndianBio: I suppose there is a way to find the link (maybe in the page source?), but I don't know it. Sorry! Ss112 15:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar Hires.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I gifted you a barnstar two years ago, and I'm quite sure you're due for another. We haven't always agreed, and sometimes we step on each others' toes, but please know how much I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia. I see you on my watchlist all the time, which makes you a truly tireless contributor. You've earned this recognition, and I hope you continue editing for a long time. Keep up the amazing work, and thanks again! --Another Believer (Talk) 14:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Thanks! Ss112 15:04, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Gaon Chart Sourcing[edit]

I hope you'll be able to help me, as you're familiar with Gaon Chart.
Recently i wanted to add sales data from the foreign album chart for Adele's album "25", as over the last 3.5years it has accumulated close to 30k sales (which, in my opinion, is decent enough number). But my edit was reverted listing WP:SYNTH as reason by IndianBio. I did not aggree and tried to discuss it with him on his talk page User_talk:IndianBio#Sales data, but we have come to a stalemate and 3rd party opinion is needed.
As you have been an editor much longer than i, i hoped you could help with opinion, and maybe suggest more editors who work with Music Articles who could give their opinions on this as well.
It's quite a shame to dismiss legitimate sales data only because there isn't a fancy article written, or that there is no cumulative (past yearly) overall sales chart. Kleool (talk) 09:04, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

@Kleool: I don't really know much about Gaon's sales, as I never added much of them before they got rid of the weekly sales amounts they displayed. Maybe propose it at Talk:25 (Adele album), as a user's talk page isn't the place to get consensus. In addition, you can post a notice at the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums asking for editors to contribute, even if they don't know much about Gaon. Hope that helps. Ss112 00:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Writing in Talk:25 (Adele album) would be a bit too focused, as the problem itself isn't with album but how the editor is against using several year summed sales from the chart. I'll try the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums. Hopefully someone answers. Have a nice day. Kleool (talk) 07:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi, could you please help me with the article for Rossendale United F.C.? Best, JV5, Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 23:37, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

@Joe Vitale 5: Hey, was there anything in particular you wanted me to help with? I don't know much about football/soccer myself, so I don't think I'd really be able to contribute much in the way of content. Ss112 00:39, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Maybe just a little copyediting here, and there, and some help with references, I'm not sure. I want to add more to the main body of text at the start of the article but I wouldn't even know where to start! Ahah. Best, JV5, Joe Vitale 5 (talk) 01:03, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi Joe Vitale 5. Your best bet is to drop a line on the talk page at WP:FOOTY. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:05, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

List of music considered the worst[edit]

I stumbled on this via RfPP and it looks pretty dreadful in its own right. What do you think? -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:29, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Ad Orientem: It looks like it's already been nominated for deletion five times over the years, and four of those times the consensus has been to keep it. I do agree with the tagged assessment that it's a subjective list and doesn't even attempt to be exhaustive (over the years I'm sure there's been far more than what is listed there that's been called "the worst"), but I think if it were nominated again it would be a similar outcome of editors defending it for the sources it does have, so to bother seems like a waste of time. Ss112 02:57, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Sigh... -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:01, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Accidental revert[edit]

Sorry for that. I was on mobile and accidentally reverted.—NØ 22:09, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Question bout NZ Hot[edit]

Hi Ss112, do you know why in this link it still shows "Shallow" even though it debuted on the main chart? —IB [ Poke ] 09:29, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: The Hot Singles is a different metric from the old Heatseeker Singles chart. It's not songs that haven't reached the main singles chart, it's just "The 40 fastest-moving tracks by sales, streams and airplay" per, so singles can be on the main chart and the Hot Singles too. It's like an alternate metric to the main chart. Ss112 09:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Ss112[edit]

I am new to the wikipedia so I may have made a mistake on the page editing. I come in peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariosheats (talkcontribs) 17:18, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail[edit]

Hello, Ss112. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. aNode (discuss) 07:59, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
@ANode: Hey, got your email, I'll reply in a bit! Ss112 08:36, 23 October 2018 (UTC)


Is there a reason why my edits for Phoenix were deleted when there’s actual proof of her tracklist being confirmed? Grigioboy1 (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@Grigioboy1: Yes, because you didn't cite the source yourself. WP:V. Ss112 17:45, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Ireland charts[edit]

To be fair won't turn this into the template anymore as every week its updating lol. Let the song reach its maximum peak and then maybe. What do you think? —IB [ Poke ] 16:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Sounds good. Ss112 16:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the World (Kevin Rudolf song)[edit]

I don't know how I missed that cut and paste move. Nice catch. Onel5969 TT me 18:41, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

Hi again. Clicked on your user page and saw that you were a member of the MJ project. An interesting tidbit -- I was the production manager on the Pepsi commercial where Mr. Jackson had his hair incident back in 1984. Onel5969 TT me 00:07, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Holy bleep! -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:34, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
@Onel5969:@Ad Orientem: I concur—holy bleep! Seems like more than an interesting tidbit to me! Ss112 06:20, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Help Life (Boy George and Culture Club album)[edit]

I just notice the banner on Life (Boy George and Culture Club album) after editing it - the interface I use for disambiguation doesn't show the banner until the edit is done - sorry if that interrupted you.— Rod talk 09:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

@Rodw: No trouble, I wasn't editing it at that time. Ss112 09:39, 28 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi Ss112, I thought you said you'd try and avoid redirects to album tracks when a dab page is required. Just come across some more. If it's a mistake, then fine. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@In ictu oculi: You did not "just come across" them, the amount you've been focusing on redirects I have made in the past few days indicates you are looking at a list of redirects I have made. I don't know why you can't just admit that. It happens from time to time and you've done it again. Also, don't put words into my mouth. I never agreed with you that dab pages were a requirement. I said I might make an effort to make more disambiguation pages if I do searches and it's obvious there are other options. Occasionally I do research the titles of redirects I make. I do not have the time to go and inspect every single one I make. No user is required to make disambiguation pages if, in what is your opinion, it's "obvious" there are other things that title could mean. We could make a disambiguation page out of probably every damn name or configuration of words. At this point in human history there are very few titles that haven't been used by someone, somewhere at some other point in time. To expect or even ask a user to do that in every instance is ludicrous, nor can you ask them, as you have to me in the past, to "just stop making redirects then". Ss112 11:44, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
No as I said before the last time, I come across them when I look for misdirects. The fact that so many of them are yours is due to the fact that you make so many, not because you are the only editor who does this. If you want to keep doing it fine, then I withdraw the request above. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:47, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
@In ictu oculi: I'm sorry, I'm not aware there's such a thing as a page of "misdirects", as you like to call them. How exactly does one look for "misdirects"? I'd really like to know. Ss112 11:53, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
They come up by themselves, but typically can be found within year categories for recent entertainment products, indicating that a redirect has been created pointing all readers at one author, album, artist etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:08, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
@In ictu oculi: I didn't add any categories to any redirect I made and nobody else had yet either. I'm still confused as to where exactly they come up by themselves then. Ss112 12:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
I said typically, or in clusters with new albums. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Music Weekly Asia[edit]

Ss112, do you know about these set of charts? —IB [ Poke ] 14:11, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Yeah, I've seen those used before. The site looks like a blog and it's not the official chart of any of the countries it has charts for—the RIAS publishes charts for Singapore, for instance. It fails WP:BADCHARTS logic because it has an unclear methodology. Ss112 14:55, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, will remove its addition. —IB [ Poke ] 14:56, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit summary comments[edit]

Your grievances with VisualEditor are not my grievances, nor are even problems concerning me directly—which you clearly understand. I'm not going to change my preferences just to suit you. Maybe you should take your issues up with with the project instead of leaving passive aggressive comments? diplomat’s son (talk+contrib) 00:44, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

@Diplomat's Son: Do you realise if I've reverted you directly and spoken to you directly, that is not what "passive aggressive" means? And yes, they are my "grievances" with you because you are the one continuously using Visual Edit on these particular pages and thus adding unnecessary parameters that others who don't use Visual Edit recognise as junk (because they serve no purpose and are not applicable) and have to remove. Maybe as I said, you can consider not using it every time you edit? Ask yourself whether you really need to. Pretty sure it's there to aid newbies who don't know basic HTML and unless you are in that category it's not really that useful. Ss112 02:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Ss112: my bad, improper wording, it was straight up aggressive. Look, I don't care to get into this any further than it is (especially when we're making the same rounds on these pop music articles), but we both understand that the editor has its unintended consequences–I am not adding these parameters on purpose, I do not realize that it is making these changes until I save the page. But I'll be more proactive in the future and clean up after myself. Again, I don't have to ask myself if its "necessary" to use it each and every time, I want to. Have you considered that the maybe the WYSIWYG editor just aids in accessibility on my end? It's not fun (for me) to have to read past the HTML tags. I'm more than capable of editing in plain text, I just don't want to. diplomat’s son (talk+contrib) 02:48, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Addressing unfair templates usage.[edit]

You seems to have full knowledge of the problems on Shatta Wale page, so why don't you solve it yourself if there is any? I think you are using the templates unfairly. Wikipedia is always imploring it users to expand every page they chance upon and this is what we get in return? Wells.grace (talk) 19:10, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Wells.grace I don't think you understand what the templates in question are. This is not an attack on you or an implication of bad faith editing. All it represents is an editor, in this case one who is highly experienced and who works a great deal in music related genres, and who has looked at the article and thinks it may need some work to get it into full compliance with our standards as an encyclopedia. It should not be taken personally. The best way to quickly remove tags from an article is to work collaboratively with the editor who put them there in order to resolve any issues. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
@Wells.grace: I already have tried to fix the issues. You came in after I cut quite a bit out, removed the templates, added more fan POV in, and restored some more poorly written prose where I had removed it. Clearly you're going to continue doing it, so it needs somebody who can clear it out once and for all and who can get through to you in telling you to write in a more neutral style, no matter how much you might like somebody. Wikipedia is not the place to gush about how much you think somebody means to Ghanaian dancehall and music. Start a blog and do it there. Ss112 22:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Music genres[edit]

Hi. Since you are active in the area of music articles (and I am not), can you review/comment on this genre edit and the handful of other edits by that IP user? I looked around for a guideline I could point to about the need for sourcing of genres, but can't seem to find it. Thanks! —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:15, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Well, you can simply cite WP:V, as they're not providing sources for their changes or explaining why. That's an IP evading a block anyway; their summary on Call the Shots gives them away. "I don't think [such and such] is sourced" is a well-known summary of Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Wikidestruction vandal. You can revert them for being a genre warrior, as Binksternet already has, as well. Ss112 00:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Unsourced genre[edit]

I added genre to aid readers have full knowledge or details about the Reign (Shatta Wale album). It was last reverted by you for lack of source. Do we need a source to know the genre of the album after listening to the production? Furthermore, it is classified as Afro-Beat on iTunes so why do you still ask for source? The purpose of creating a page is not achieved if some editors on here seems to deem every content that is not coming from them as invalid or inaccurate. -- Wells.grace (talk) 07:32, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@Wells.grace: What you deem the genre to be is not relevant, so no, you can't assess the genre yourself and then add it to the article (WP:SUBJECTIVE). You should know by this point Wikipedia relies on independent, reliable published secondary news sources per WP:V and WP:RS. What critics have said the genre is is what matters. iTunes' assessment of genre is automatic and is not considered a reliable indication. The purpose of creating a page is not achieved if you think everything doesn't need to be sourced, especially something as contentious as genres. Ss112 15:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Mía and Bebé songs articles[edit]

Hi, I saw your edit summary about the accents in the songs "Mía" and "Bebé" on the list of number-one Billboard Hot Latin Songs of 2018. I know that neither article supports those accents. Both singles' titles were released in capital letters: "MIA" and "BEBE". Those words have an accent mark in Spanish and writing them without accent is wrong.

  • "Bebe" means "drink", while "Bebé" means baby/babe/girl (depending of the context). In the song, the performers say "bebecita" ("little baby") and "baby".
  • "Mia" is a proper noun, while "Mía" means "mine". In the song, the rappers say "tu eres mía" ("you are mine"). Brankestein (talk) 23:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
@Brankestein: I already know what the titles mean (it could be figured out from the context anyway), and I know simple Spanish words. However, using accents is a matter of what sources say. The same argument has been had over famous sportspeople of Latin descent, whether to use the "correct" accenting of their name per Spanish naming customs or to go with WP:COMMONNAME. Similarly, if the Spanish speakers who write and perform these songs don't want to use accents in their song titles when referring to them on social media or can't be bothered to, why are we doing it for them? Ss112 23:45, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Because one should not allow others to write badly. Brankestein (talk) 00:02, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Brankestein: You're saying the performer of a song is "writing badly" by neglecting to use accents on letters in their own language? That could be a stylistic choice, like an English speaker using "U" instead of "You" and so on. We can't retitle it "You" for them because we think it's leading to the degradation of the language. We can't decide for others how to title their songs (unless it's something like capitalisation or stylisation rules), whether you think it's badly written or not. As far as I know, Wikipedia's MOS doesn't say to insert accents where a language would ordinarily use them if sources don't. Ss112 00:05, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
I understand the hypothetical stylistic choice, but in Spanish an accent changes the meaning of a word, like I said before. If you read "U" instead of "You" in the title of a song, you know what it means. If I read the title "Mia" I have to believe that the song is about a woman named Mia. Various Spanish-language news websites write "Mía" and "Bebé". Brankestein (talk) 02:13, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Brankestein: You still know what they mean given the context of the song. Sources have to be consistent for us to change all uses of a song's title and they almost never are. You do realise that the article for "Mia" is at Mia (Bad Bunny song) without the accent over the "i", right? Perhaps request a move citing whatever proof you can find, and then we can change all uses of it. Same with 6ix9ine's article. At most, I'm being consistent with the title of that song's article. Also, I don't think I need to tell you, but as this is the English Wikipedia, we would care more about what English language sources have to say/use. If there were none or very few, then Spanish language sources would take preference. I'm saying that not to say Spanish sources don't mean anything, but that's something that's taken into account when articles are moved or we're arguing to adopt a uniform way of writing something. So really, at the end of the day, you're raising your case with the wrong person or at the wrong place. Request a move at Talk:Mia (Bad Bunny song). Ss112 02:21, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Then it's going to be impossible to change the titles. Thanks for your replies and sorry for bothering you. Brankestein (talk) 18:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Discography help[edit]

Hey Ss112, A while back I also wrote an article for two Dominican singers Santaye and Giselle Tavera as part of an editathon for WP:WIR. I attempted to add some Billboard charts but know that they are missing info and are poorly formatted. Any assistance you could provide for those would be greatly appreciated. As an aside, I also started Erika Costell but I think she has only charted once. I'd be interested in better learning how to do it myself. Frequently, when I edit a discography table in the visual editor, it looks fine....but when I switch to source editing and then return to visual, the table becomes mal-formatted. Thanks! Thsmi002 (talk) 19:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Own It (album)[edit]

Have you been able to find producer credits anywhere? This album isn't even listed on Allmusic. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 03:07, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

@TenPoundHammer: You can right click each track on Tidal here, click "Credits" and see each producer listed. Ss112 03:33, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Treat Myself[edit]

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I have an article for the album already drafted at Draft:Treat Myself. Although I’m not too bothered by you starting the mainspace article, I think you’ve written it really well. How would you like this situation to be handled, should the draft just be deleted? Thanks in advance for your response!—NØ 21:58, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Oh, I had no idea you'd started a draft. I thought the notice would show up if somebody had started one...maybe it's because you don't appear to have submitted it for AfC (even though sometimes even if the notices do appear, I barely notice they're there). I think as they're parallel histories, unfortunately not much is likely to come of the draft so it should probably be redirected to the main article (what I've seen most other editors do). You can nominate it for speedy deletion if you want, or I'm pretty sure if it's not worked on any more/empty it will be deleted in several months per standard draft procedure. Ss112 22:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I redirected the draft to the article. By the way, since the article has been expanded fivefold, its also eligible for DYK. I think you should submit it with the fact "Did you know... that Meghan Trainor delayed Treat Myself because she wanted to add more songs to it?" I'd have nominated it but I believe its not my place since you're the page creator!--NØ 11:22, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Margaret (singer)[edit]

Hey. A while back you told me that numbers below 10 should be written in words instead of figures and we had a bit of an argument about it but that's water under the brige now I hope. Anyways, since then I've changed all figures to words here because in some instances there were smaller and bigger numbers in one sentence, eg. 'the singles reached numbers six and 12' and it looked inconsistent. However, now we've also got something like 'on the list of one hundred most influential...' which looks a bit odd, so I was wondering if you could do a run through the article and change what needs to be changed with the numbers, so that it nice and clear. Best. ArturSik (talk) 23:26, 8 November 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I'd like to report a possible vandalism. One or more anonimous users are continuously adding a genre in the page Folklore (Nelly Furtado album) using a source that doesn't confirm it, and everytime I revert the edit they accuse me of being a sockpuppet. I don't speak very well English, so I don't think I can handle this situation alone. Ikcir (talk) 15:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ikcir: I think you're dealing with a sockpuppet of MariaJaydHicky, who's edited that page a bit before. You should request page protection at WP:RFPP and note that it's a sock of MariaJaydHicky who keeps reverting you and accusing you. Ss112 19:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Ikcir (talk) 19:52, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


I haven't made any changes to this or related Little Mix articles yet, because I wanted to wait until the album is released to be able to check, but technically speaking, I don't believe the album will be released on RCA Records. The press release says "LM5, the forthcoming Little Mix album A&R’d and released on Syco Music (my emphasis), is to be serviced by RCA at the request of Syco and Simon Cowell"... to me, that says quite clearly that it will be released on Syco/Sony Music, and distributed (not released) by RCA – RCA will only be the label for all future releases, not this one. That makes sense – the album covers and booklets for the physical editions will have been printed a couple of months ago, and there's no way they could scrap them and reprint them all by replacing "Syco" with "RCA" in time for the album's release... plus I'm sure the album would already have been contracted to Syco for release ahead of the split. But perhaps I'm wrong – we'll see if tomorrow the physical copies are released with an "RCA Records" sticker on them, and what iTunes, Amazon, etc. list as the record label for the digital versions. What do you think? Richard3120 (talk) 14:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

@Richard3120: You might indeed be right—the Australian deluxe iTunes page is showing "Simco Limited under exclusive licence to Sony Music Entertainment UK Limited". Ss112 14:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
I thought I'd mention it to you, because as an Australian-based editor, you're going to be one of the first Wikipedia editors to get a look at the album , while here in Colombia, I'm going to be one of the last :-) it's still only 9:30am on the 15th here as I type this... Richard3120 (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

The Simulation listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect The Simulation. Since you had some involvement with the The Simulation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Jax 0677 (talk) 14:12, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey Ss112[edit]

Hey Ss112, I have taken onboard your comments regarding "the correct classes for newly created articles" and "reverting edits without explanation" left on my talk page. I would like to thank you for all your contributions you've made to the articles i've created or watch. All the best, Vistadan 22:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


Ss112, do you know what happened to the Mexican albums chart? Last update I can see was from July 2018, did they stop completely? —IB [ Poke ] 11:49, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: No idea, I never followed the Mexican chart. But by the looks of AMPROFON's website, it appears they have stopped: the last time they updated was August 2018. The last time their apparent Facebook account posted was September. Not sure what happened there. Ss112 12:25, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Dummy Boy[edit]

Are you not allowed to edit unsourced content on 6ix9ine's album dummy Boy Oreratile1207 (talk) 19:11, 23 November 2018 (UTC)


Hi, LM5 debuted at #13 on the Spanish Streaming Chart I wasn’t sure if this should be added to the page. I did attempt myself but was unable to add a title(?) so I felt it’d be best just to ask you.

Thanks Lmarmy (talk) 19:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Lmarmy: It's not really relevant to add, because the overall album peak is higher and streaming figures into the overall album position anyway, so the streaming albums chart is a component chart we shouldn't bother adding. Ss112 19:45, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Pinkfong redirect you created[edit]

Hi User:Ss112, I see your name all over pages! I am asking a special favor from you. I have created a new page for Pinkfong that I would like to add to Wikipedia Asian Month. It will be my 4th page for the project, which is the goal for November. The articles must be created by the contributor and must be uploaded in November and tomorrow is the last day.

I want to ask you can you request a Speedy Deletion of the Redirect you created? Then I can post the new page this month, with my name on it.

I think the Template you use is this one here Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Deletion templates at the bottom of the page you will see the DB or Delete Because templates. I think the Speedy Deletion|Reason one will work well, with you typing the reason that "I created this Redirect and another User wishes to create a page with the same name." Thank you!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 13:21, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sean, have you had a chance to read this over yet? I hate to bother you. The Asian Month project first rule is: "The article is newly created by you (i.e. not expanding stubs) between November 1, 2018 0:00 and November 30, 2018 23:59 (UTC)." So I believe I have to have the page information show my name and this month's dates. Sorry I am being so persistent. I never actually checked to see if there was a Redirect until yesterday. Then I had already done massive work on citations and writing the page. Please let me know what you think?--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 00:24, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Bonnielou2013: You can G6 it yourself. Thanks for seeking my approval, but you don't technically need my blessing. Ss112 05:14, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I will, but it may take a couple of days as it has to go to Discussion, since I am not the page creator, you are. But I will tweak the name to get it uploaded today, then do the Deletion process for the actual name. Thanks for approving!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 05:22, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sean RE:name for Pingfong....See above sentence where I said I will tweak the name of the page to get it uploaded on time for November 30. Let's try to communicate with each other on talk pages instead of on Summaries. I didn't know exactly when WP time ended on Nov. 30.....I am in Korea and needed to go to bed. But, thanks for the name change, which I meant to do when the Deletion process happened. I knew it would take longer, as I was not the Creator of the Redirect. Anyway, I don't think the process about Redirects is perfect....but we got it all worked out anyway. Thanks again.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 20:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC) Ok all Pinkfong! are taken care of. (I left the ones that actually belong to the titles of their videos) I was going to do the Move to the real name, Pinkfong, after the Deletion process....but it worked out well, it just got Reviewed, so there was no confusion, thanks to you moving it while I was asleep. As I said, the Redirects cause a new article to be assigned to the Redirect creator....I had this happen before with a band started adding information (with no citations) to create the page over the Redirect and WP notified me about my new page that I created! Since I liked the band I waited until they were notable....later that year they put out their first album....I felt responsible since my name was attached as the creator. Anyway, long story...I felt I complained at you, but I am a little sleepy. Talk to you later!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 21:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Bonnielou2013: I don't see the point in bothering to go out of my way to visit somebody's talk page and start a new section and wrote a longer message than I have to when what I want to write can fit in a (more concise) edit summary. It was not meant to "attack" or "complain" at you, I was just confused. I don't believe most edit summary mentions require replies or responses. It's just wasted energy. Yes, generally, talk pages are the go-to form of communication—but on most occasions I see edit summary mentions as more like dropping a note, or a memo. Ss112 06:26, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Yo (Inna album)[edit]

Hi! Because there's no other album on Wikipedia named "Yo", this album should be at "Yo (album)". However, "Yo (album)" already redirects to Alex Greenwald. What should I do? Best regards; Cartoon network freak (talk) 06:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Cartoon network freak: You can request it be moved at WP:RM/TR. Ss112 12:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Party for One[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 4 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Party for One, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Carly Rae Jepsen teased "Party for One" by posting a picture of herself? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Party for One. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Party for One), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 12:02, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Ghostbusters Soundtrack[edit]

Since you seem to be everywhere when it comes to chart positions, can you take a look at the Ghostbusters soundtrack chart position for Australia? I found a source to replace the old one but I can't figure out how to replace it. The link is on the talk page.


CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 03:00, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

@CAMERAwMUSTACHE: Never mind, I fixed the chart link. Ss112 03:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Look What I Found[edit]

Thanks for catching this, copy-paste errors *facepalm*. —IB [ Poke ] 10:35, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Pleses Help!![edit]

List of Billboard 200 top 10 albums well I made this page After seeing the astralian version of it and I thought I could make but I clearly can't so I'm asking you to Help me make it a thing. Kay gee 2019 (talk) 01:52, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Have you[edit]

Seen this? What a mess! Imagine if they revert Travis Scott and give it to 6ix9ine now lol. —IB [ Poke ] 11:04, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Yeah, it's been a whole big debacle for days. Nielsen Music announced a sales discrepancy, recounted, are saying 6ix9ine's now ahead, but I think Billboard's resistant to the idea and are delaying it as long as possible—people think Billboard don't like 6ix9ine because the custom short URL they used and linked to on Twitter for Astroworld regaining #1 over 6ix9ine was (which still works, but they deleted the tweet for obvious reasons)...Apparently Sony want Astroworld to be number one and lodged a complaint as well. It's a complete shambles. Ss112 11:27, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
OMG, that link hahaha! This is such a shady business going on and I'm finding myself more invested in it day by day. —IB [ Poke ] 11:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

About citation variation[edit]

I don't want to feel like I'm nitpicking but per WP:CITEVAR: If you are the first contributor to add citations to an article, you may choose whichever style you think best for the article. I will now caution on using the tidy script for citations. Nevertheless, everything else you stated in your edit was correct - so thank you for the feedback of the edits! – The Grid (talk) 20:53, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@The Grid: I'm aware of what CITEVAR says. However, as you may be aware, your version of the article was redirected and then Lazz R restored it, and that version stuck. So I don't think if somebody else restored the article with more information/reworked it, that you then still get to decide (for them/the article) what the citation style is, because redirecting the article is tantamount to deleting it and starting over anew when somebody chooses to do so. Ss112 04:59, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Ss112, do you know if Hung Medien has stopped updating Or they do it quarterly or something. —IB [ Poke ] 11:27, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

@IndianBio: Hey, no idea. Maybe they're just extremely behind, or decided to stop doing updating with whatever formula they concoct for charts that seems to heavily favour downloads hahaha. Ss112 11:59, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Treat Myself[edit]

Updated DYK query.svgOn 13 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Treat Myself, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Meghan Trainor's 2019 album Treat Myself has been characterized as "filled with self-love anthems"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Treat Myself. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Treat Myself), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Page-mover rights granted[edit]

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Hello, Ss112. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

This seemed like a practical tool that you have both the requisite experience as well as a demonstrated use for. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:55, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
This was unexpected, but I suppose it will be helpful. Thanks! Ss112 09:13, 16 December 2018 (UTC)