Talk:Quebec

Québec

Bonjour, le nom de la province est « Québec » et non « Quebec. » unsigned
The above recommendation has gone unanswered; the Canadian Style does indeed specify that Québec should be spelled with l'accent aigu in English, and as the page is written in Canadian English I propose “reversing” the redirection of this page to Québec. Nebes (talk) 00:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

• Is the federal government style guide really appropriate though - it's rather political. What matters is common usage. Look in any newspaper, there's no accent. Refer for example to The Globe and Mail style guide here which has no accent. Or better yet, our OWN style guide at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Canada-related articles which is very clear there shouldn't be an accent. Also refer to previous discussions here, most recently at Talk:Quebec/Archive 8#Edit Request: Use proper accents Nfitz (talk) 23:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

The name of the country is the name of the country. If the Americans and British and other countries wish to disregard the proper, correct spelling, that’s on them, but shouldn’t a neutral representative use the name by which we call ourselves? There is no circumstance under which there is no accent on Québec; be it the province or the city. The same goes for Montréal. The accent is on the city logo. Be sensitive for once in your lives Alehanro999 (talk) 18:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

"The name of the country is the name of the country." But the names of countries change in different languages. The French speak and write about Les États-Unis and L'Allemagne and L'Écosse, which is very different from what the inhabitants of those countries themselves use. So it is in English. Try to be objective (I won't add "for once in your lives", not wanting to be discourteous). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.39.58 (talk) 13:45, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Actually, you just did. Was that passive-aggessive attitude productive? Please, let's be more respectful to one another. 49.184.212.125 (talk)

No, I said "try being objective" in this single case. What they do in the rest of their lives I have no idea.

Aerospace Industry

An inset graphic shows a model of a modern jetliner with a caption that begins like this: Since 1856, Quebec has established itself as a pioneer of modern aerospace industry. Huh? Quebec had an aerospace industry back before the 1903 invention of the airplane? The reference points to "HISTOIRE DE L'AÉRONAUTIQUE AU QUÉBEC," which says this: Si la première ascension libre d’un ballon avec passagers au Canada a lieu à Montréal en 1856, il faut attendre le début du XX ième siècle pour voir apparaître les premiers aéroplanes au Québec, comme dans le reste du monde. I don't read French, but my internet-translation has this as If the first free ascent of a balloon with passengers in Canada took place in Montreal in 1856, it was not until the beginning of the 20th century that the first airplanes appeared in Quebec, as in the rest of the world. It doesn't say anything about an aerospace industry in Quebec back in 1856. Could somebody who reads French come up with a more accurate caption for this graphic? —MiguelMunoz (talk) 23:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

The boundary between Quebec and Labrador

When did the Privy Council of the United Kingdom establish the boundary between Quebec and Labrador? Peter Horn User talk 21:09, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

See Talk:Labrador#Border dispute Peter Horn User talk 21:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Quebec as a nation

Two editors have added detailed explanations to the lead about Quebec being a "nation". Quebec's "nationhood" is symbolic, and including a detailed explanation about it in the lead may mislead readers. Quebec's status as a nation is discussed within the article. The following was added to the second sentence of the lead by User:Safyrr:

Quebec itself is said by many to be a nation. This statement is supported by many people, including politicians like Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and the Canadian House of Commons as a result of a symbolic motion passed in 2006 which states "That this House recognizes that the Quebecois form a nation within a united Canada". Linguistic and cultural differences, as well as vague definitions, have resulted in different interpretations of the 2006 motion, which themselves constitute a source of tension in discussions about the status of Quebec. There exists differences between the terms "nation" and "country" as well as "Québécois" and "Quebecer" that are often misunderstood. All of these terms also have different definitions in French. For example, "country" in French is a more flexible term that can either refer to a region, the territory of a nation or a sovereign entity. The word "nation" in French refers to a group of people living on the same territory whom constitute a political entity and whom are aware of their shared history, culture and values. Finally, in English, "Québécois" refers solely to residents of Quebec with French Canadian ancestry and "Quebecer" is any resident of Quebec. In French, "Québécois" refers generally to residents and the word "Quebecer" doesn't exist.

References

The input of others would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Magnolia677 It is clear that an explanation about different viewpoints between communities, including French and English communities, needs to be included within the intro since the status of Quebec is such an important and contentious topic. It doesn't need to be detailed, but simply present. To not mention the varied opinions about how or why Quebec would or would not constitute a nation (an important thing for a territory to be as this affects how others will see it and interact with it) may be misleading the reader. Why would Quebec's page (especially the introductory paragraph) be so prone to vandalism otherwise? The French article states that Quebec is a nation in the first sentence and the French article is not prone to often being modified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safyrr (talk • contribs) 14:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Wrong pronounciation in Intro (Its not "Kwabec", its pronounced "Kebec")

In the intro, the uncommon pronouciation "Kwabec" is given in IPA and the common pronouciation "Kebec" is not presented at all. "Kebec" should be included and presented first, before "Kwabec" and the French "Québec". Safyrr (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Cleanup time

Think its time we take a look at helping cleanup this article...needs lots of sources...proper sources....cleanup of charts to pross all over...image cleanup to helpl with accessibility .trim gigantic lead..merger of one sentence sections ... etc..... Will post help message at project page.--Moxy- 22:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Moxy: went ahead and condensed the lead over in my sandbox (User:WildComet/sandbox/Quebec rewrite), sans sources, which I can look into improving if people like this. As for the text, Government and politics definitely also needs a rewrite. WildComet (talk) 06:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Great! still a bit long but much better....added lets see if there is any push back. Sources not needed all in prose of the article anyways.-- Moxy- 12:48, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good. WildComet (talk) 21:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)