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RFC on flags

A RFC is underway which might have a considerable effect on the usage of flags in the articles in this WikiProject. Any input is welcome and you can join the RFC here.Tvx1 00:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Flags in 2021 British Touring Car Championship article

An IP editor seems to be adding large number of unnecessary flags to 2021 British Touring Car Championship article. They do not seem to be otherwise communicating through edit summaries or talk pages. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 11:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Warn them. If they keep up reverting and without communication, report them to Administration Noticeboards, and might also ask for page protection if IP's keep doing that.Rpo.castro (talk) 12:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Karting results in biographies and other junior level formulae

An editor has added tables (claiming to) detail the karting careers of numerous drivers to their biographic articles. I have removed some of these as they were unsourced. Many of these articles have also had detailed results for low-level series like Formula 4 added, also usually without sources, and I have removed some of these as I believe the consensus is to only cover Formula 4 results in reduced detail in the career summary table. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 07:00, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

How to deal with annual title sponsor changes

See also [1].

A question in the round: Wouldn't it be better and easier to use a generic name for the races of all series and to redirect the current official race names with the current title sponsor than to move dozens if not hundreds of articlesraces every year? --Mark McWire (talk) 06:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

If the title sponsor isn't exceptionally longstanding then where possible we should seek to use a WP:NDESC purely for the sake of complying with the recognisability aspect of WP:COMMONNAME. Ten years after the fact nobody is likely to remember that a particular race happened to be sponsored by Woolworths one year and British Home Stores another, but "CART race at Cleveland" will consistently remain easy to recognise and understand. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 07:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree with HumanBodyPiloter. In "european" motorsports, the official name usually isn't the common name or the only common (Vodafone Rally de Portugal or Heineken GP of Portugal). For "american" motorsports, if one sponsor name lasts so long as Coca-Cola 600, seems ok. But if the sponsor keeps shifting, better use a more stable and recognizable name. Rpo.castro (talk) 18:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

• I agree that this is an issue, much moreso with American and Australian racing than with European racing, since the names seem to change a lot more. I definitely don't think we should not use a sponsor name where it is the common name (eg the Clipsal 500 was undoubtedly the common name for the Adelaide 500, certainly people were referring to it by that name even after the sponsor changed, even calling it "the Clipsal"). But I do have a problem, especially in cases where there WAS a longstanding name which changed, when the article gets renamed to reflect a new sponsor to something pretty much unrecognisable. As a minimum I feel it needs to be made clear that the race did not always have the new name as that seems awfully revisionist to me. A7V2 (talk) 23:22, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Freedom 100

The article says this race no longer exists, but the claim for it, is based on the cancellation of the 2021 race due to COVID. This seems to be weird to claim the race is no longer to be held, as both 2020 and 2021 are affected by the pandemic. Is there a source saying that this race no longer will be held? Clearly any near future possible edition of the race (ie. 2022) could still be affected by ongoing COVID pandemic, as it hasn't ended yet. This seems to be crystalballing the event into the dustbin without a firm source. -- 65.93.183.191 (talk) 05:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Formula Women

Should Formula Women (2004) and Formula Women (2021) share the same article? Are these two even related, except for the name? I will note that XFL (2001) and XFL (2020) do not share the same article, even though the championship league has the same name, and one is a revival of the other. -- 65.93.183.191 (talk) 04:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)