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Is Massachusetts a Southern State?

The first sentence in this article says that Jim Crow refers to southern states. But the first sentence in the Wikipedia article "List of Jim Crow law examples by state" under Massachusetts says: The term "Jim Crow Law" was first used in 1841 in reference to a Massachusetts law that required the railways to provide a separate car for black passengers and the "separate but equal" doctrine, Massachusetts.[21][22] Are both statements ok? N0w8st8s (talk)N0w8st8s — Preceding undated comment added 09:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "white Southern Democrat-dominated state legislatures" to "Democrat-dominated legislatures in the south" 47.147.6.87 (talk) 20:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Please seek consensus for this change. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Jim Crow laws were enforced until 1965"

Is this a true statement? For example public schools in Houston, Texas didn't begin to desegregate until 1970.^[1] Despite the Brown v. Board of Education ruling of 1954 that ruled school segregation as unconstitutional.

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^ Waldron, Martin (1970-03-01). "Houston Moves to Desegregate Schools Amid Clamor of Protest". The New York Times. With about 250,000 students and 10,000 teachers, it has been the largest segregated school district in the United States....The school district said that on Feb. 13 of this year more than 19,500 Negro pupils were attending previously all‐white schools. However, only 7' per cent of Houston's 160,000 white students had crossed over to Negro schools and more than 50,000 Negro students were still in all‐Negro schools.

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Grammar mistake. Change "The exclusion of African Americans was also found support in the Republican lily-white movement." to "The exclusion of African Americans also found support in the Republican lily-white movement." Wellivea1 (talk) 02:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Good catch, Wellivea1! Thanks. DMacks (talk) 02:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image of sign from South Africa should be replaced

The image - titled "Sign from the Apartheid era in South Africa: FOR USE BY WHITE PERSONS. THESE PUBLIC PREMISES AND THE AMENITIES THEREOF HAVE BEEN RESERVED FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF WHITE PERSONS. By Order Provincial Secretary" - should be replaced because this article is about an issue of United States history, not South Africa.Meakakauwikiwiki (talk) 16:48, 4 August 2021 (UTC)^[1][reply]

The sign is part of the sidebar, that is for discrimination globally, not just USA or South Africa. Red Jay (talk) 18:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Does not explain term origin adequately

The title term is not explained clearly as in; how was the term “Jim crow” became conjoined with “laws”.

Lightly touched on in “etymology” but the main article body should explain the term itself, not just its common definitional usage. Without the etymology section the article could just describe “American racist laws”. But it is about “Jim crow laws”. A term used almost always without explanation.

As an English person I came to this wp article for an explanation of how the term came to be, not just a usage definition with examples. Jennpublic (talk) 20:31, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws#/media/File:ApartheidSignEnglishAfrikaans.jpg

[1] Waldron, Martin (1970-03-01). "Houston Moves to Desegregate Schools Amid Clamor of Protest". The New York Times. With about 250,000 students and 10,000 teachers, it has been the largest segregated school district in the United States....The school district said that on Feb. 13 of this year more than 19,500 Negro pupils were attending previously all‐white schools. However, only 7' per cent of Houston's 160,000 white students had crossed over to Negro schools and more than 50,000 Negro students were still in all‐Negro schools.

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