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Gilroy Gardens

Although Gilroy Gardens was sold to the City of Gilroy, it remains under the operation of the Cedar Fair Entertainment Company, contrary to popular belief. [1]

Gilroy (formerly Bonfante) Gardens is not a Cedar Fair owned park. It is owned by a not for profit board of directors. [2] Cedar Fair does, however, manage the park under a contract with the board that they purchased when they bought out Paramount Parks. I have clarified that fact in the article. Dblevins2 03:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8478853?nclick_check=1
  2. ^ http://www.gilroygardens.com/about.html

CoastersNSich (talk) 19:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Mercury News article appears to be behind a paywall now, and the Gilroy Gardens site (dot org, not dot com) doesn't mention Cedar Falls. I was able to find a reference to Gilroy Gardens on the Cedar Falls official site, though, which I assume to be current. It's not a neutral source, but the best neutral source I could find was a years-old press release, which isn't much better. I've updated the article with the cite. JeffLicquia (talk) 18:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek: The Experience

Cedar Fair will also be managing this as they will with Bonfonte (as they once did with the KC @ Mall of America). I've edited the article.

Cedar Fair Entertainment Company

While officially the company's name is still Cedar Fair, L.P., they are now referring to themselves as Cedar Fair Entertainment Company, reflecting the fact that they own more than just rides. They also have water parks, live shows, restaurants, two marinas, six hotels, and two campgrounds.

192.85.50.2 22:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC) Jeff Harper[reply]

Peanuts, Politics

Someone might want to incorporate some info about Cedar Fair's parks' use of the Peanuts characters.

Also, does anyone know of any documented political involvement/bias (campaign contributions, etc.) by Cedar Fair? I notice quite a bit of stereotypically conservative tendencies at Worlds of Fun. Among these include the "Cedar Fair Image" of clean-shaven, short-haired males, with no exceptions, and the playing of God Bless America every single night park-wide at closing time. --Xyzzyva 07:21, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Ride Additions

The current 2009 section is quickly becoming outdated. Kings Dominion on thier website announced a new ride for 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.121.18.98 (talk) 19:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I am removing the external links to the fan sites for Cedar Fair's parks. These links already appear on each of the parks pages on Wikipedia and do not contribute to anything on this page. I am leaving the fan site for Cedar Fair, as that applies to this page.TPOLMike (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lawsuit and Settlement against Cedar Fair

Not sure if this is capable of being mentioned in the article itself, but recently Cedar Fair is in the midst of settling a lawsuit against a former employee. The settlement amount is $9 million.

Proof and information regarding the lawsuit and settlement is located here: https://www.cedarfairsettlement.com/ssl/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.51.55 (talk) 10:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality Dispute Resolution

From what I can discern, there is little bias in the text of the article. In fact, there is little text in which bias could be present. I will remove the tag for neutrality disputes (and the advertorialistic bias claims) in ten days if no one objects. After this time, objections may still be raised, in which case the tag will be reimplemented. The lack of citations and references tag will remain in place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Poxywallow (talk • contribs) 02:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New CEO and References to Charlotte

On October 22, 2017 Cleveland.com discussed the transition of outgoing Cedar Fair CEO Matt Ouimet and incoming CEO Richard Zimmerman... profiling both to some degree and giving some interesting hints toward future projects. Information regarding the transition needs to be added to the article. Additionally it was stated that the new CEO will be based out of the company's corporate offices in Charlotte North Carolina instead of the "Executive Offices" in Sandusky, OH. This statement directly contradicts the sentence in this article that states that Cedar Fair shut down Paramount Park's corporate offices in Charlotte NC in 2006 and relocated operations to Sandusky Ohio. I review the source that was cited in that statement and there is Zero mention of the old Paramount Parks offices being closed in the source. This new information regarding the new CEO implies that the old Paramount Park offices were kept after the acquisition. Additionally based on the wording of this new article it also implies that the old Paramount Park offices were not only kept, but became the companies corporate offices and the office in Sandusky became the companies Executive Office. These discrepancies will need to be corrected. The article can be found here: http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/10/outgoing_incoming_cedar_fair_c.html

Changes made. Cedar Fair has regional offices in several states including the former Paramount offices in North Carolina.—JlACEer (talk) 20:39, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:21, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Fair Entertainment Company → Cedar Fair – per WP:COMMONNAME. The current title is clearly the company's official name, but since the common name of an entity is preferred on Wikipedia I am requesting this move. The query "Cedar Fair" -"Cedar Fair Entertainment Company" gets approximately four times as many results as "Cedar Fair Entertainment Company" in a Google News search. Many instances of the latter are straight from press releases anyway. I believe this shows "Cedar Fair" is the common name. Themeparkgc  Talk  07:30, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wasserfest at Schlitterbahn Galveston

Should Wasserfest at Schlitterbahn Galveston be counted as indoor waterpark?DisneyAviationRollerCoasterEnthusiast (talk) 05:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Era"????

Are these "Era" time-periods, truly technical divisions? Or are these "Era" divisions merely colloquial references arbitrarily assigned by CP fanatics? Anyway I am sure we can clean up this whole Article along with the CP business-enterprise Article, when time permits. In the interim, I am still attempting to locate a copy of that publication about CP's racist past as mentioned by another editor on the CP talk page. Based upon what that other editor mentioned about its contents, it may very well clear up many of these questions, especially the questionably accurate ones. With any luck, maybe I can acquire copy of it, in time for the mass overhaul needed on both of these Articles, early next year. 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 14:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"A period is defined as a large interval of time which has a specific characteristic and is important in history and the life of man. An era is a long period of time which is marked by the beginning and end of a significant event. In most of Asia, an era marks the period of each emperor or king's reign." http://www.differencebetween.net › ... Difference Between Era and Period - Differencebetween.net ------ and WIKIdiff states that "an era is a time period of indeterminate length" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 14:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Therefore, not only do these Cedar Fair "era" divisions seem to be arbitrarily assigned by CP fanatics, but the editors here are apparently using the terminology "era" in a very questionable and NON-encyclopedic manner. In the very least, the word "era" should probably not appear in these sub-headings?. NOTE: this Article is not a blog, and if blogging is the actual goal of any editors here, there are other websites designed for that sort of fandom activity.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Early history

Per this discussion, apparently there may be a need for broader discussion concerning Cedar Fair's early history. Can Cedar Fair be traced back at all to the companies that ran it during its first 50 years or so? I restored some content with a source, and obviously more expansion would be needed if we continue down this route, but it would seem somewhat odd to me if we didn't talk about Cedar Point's founding and early beginnings in some way if there is a connection at all. Otherwise, we may need a separate article that deals with Cedar Point Pleasure Company and/or G.A. Boeckling Company. We can be very brief about it if we keep it here, because I agree this article should focus on the modern entity Cedar Fair. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:54, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When Cedar Point refers to its own history (as written by Cedar Fair), it seems to mention and bring up the older entities that were consumed and eventually became absorbed by Cedar Fair. If that's legit, then it would seem to make sense to include the earlier iterations as a prequel historic perspective to give readers some background. --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:57, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@gonein60: just as a minor technical correction, to my knowledge there was no such company as the Cedar Point Pleasure Company. That seems to be a conflagration of the actual legal name of the Cedar Point Pleasure RESORT Company, which was the predessor company of the "Cedar Point Pleasure Resort Company of Indiana". So be sure to check the David Frances book and etc. for confirmation of these official legal names. It's time these faulty facts get removed at least from Wikipedia, wouldn't you agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What are you referring to? The article currently states "Cedar Point Pleasure Resort Company" and "Cedar Point Pleasure Resort Company of Indiana", respectively. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was specifically referring to your above statement,, and also the CEDAR POINT article. Also @gonein60: the odd statement you just now made in your article edit. I am not aware that even Cedar Fair itself claims that any public business operated anywhere upon the CP peninsula in 1873, 1874, 1875, 1876, or 1877. Please let's not be sloppy with wild editing assertions, but if in doubt then instead let common-sense reign. Ok??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 21:06, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That was simply a typo on my part here. When I restored article content, I got it right. Also feel free to correct it on the Cedar Point article, or discuss it on that talk page if needed. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"the odd statement you just now made in your article edit"
What statement are you referring to and what change are you proposing? The content in the article follows the Francis book source and how it refers to the 1870s as a part of the park's "rustic beginnings". This statement is provided for context, leading up to the formation of CPPRC. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
According to Francis, the popularity of the peninsula "grew slowly" in the 1870s. Your own statement seems quite an embellished leap from that. Such as "success". What 1870s success are you referencing? Not from Francis, nor any other published source that I have seen. Nor does Francis state that any of that "slow growth" occured during 1873-1877. Anyway this article is a technical article about the business proceedings of Cedar Fair. So be sure your editing assertions match what Cedar Fair asserts about their own business predecessors, not what historians said. Reserve the historians' versions for the Cedar Point article. Or if perhaps you discover a discrepancy between Cedar Fair's assertions and other reliable sources, it is your obligation as a Wikipedian, to present the opposing viewpoints here in this Article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 21:52, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
anyway I have already expended too much of my time at the moment, so I must attend to other, and more pressing matters. When I am able to resume here, I will assess what progress has been made. In the meanwhile, it is actually the Cedar Point article which needs more attention, as per my many suggestions there. But it's certainly your prerogative to devote your time to this Cedar Fair article, instead of the article that is probably much more accessed by the public, than this one.

@JlAcer

For JIAcer, regarding your recent deletion of pertinent information which I attempted to post to the Article as corrections to faulty prior edits. Some portions of the faulty text were very pertinent to the article, if, and I stress the word IF, that prior text has been accurately stated. But they were not accurately stated, which is why I had posted the corrected information , and included my source references within the reason for the edit, because, as you asserted on my talk page, those source references were already within the CP article itself, so, based upon your own assertions, it was not necessary for me to add those pre-existing refs. However, you deleted my corrections anyway, under the sole premise that I was an "IP vandal". Can you please explain your "IP vandal" reasoning, here on this thread? And also please explain why you don't feel that my corrections were pertinent. Also please explain why the former, faulty information is no longer pertinent, because apparently all prior editors accepted that former information as being pertinent, despite being faulty. What now suddenly changes the pertinence of the prior official legal predecessor names of the Cedar Fair company? Thank you. 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 20:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The comment was explained to you here. We can use this talk page to discuss article content issues including the edits you were trying to make, but it should not be used to discuss a behavioral dispute that you may have or be insinuating. Take that to your talk page, JlACEer's talk page, or to WP:ANI. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:14, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@gonein60: all of my above comments were in direct relation to improvement of the article. Including any behavioral issues with others, as you called them. I could care less how someone behaves elsewhere on Wikipedia. But, in my opinion, specific behavior in regard to specific subjects surely belongs attached to that same subject, so that other editors of a specific Article are aware of that behavior concerning that specific subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:100B:2D6C:84D3:617C:5031:C149 (talk) 20:27, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The comment, "explain why you don't feel my corrections are pertinent" can and should be discussed here. The "IP Vandal" reasoning was already explained on your talk page, and there's a link to that comment here in this thread. If further back and forth is needed concerning that issue, then this is not the appropriate forum to continue that discussion. --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is the text that was deleted: "Cedar Point opened in 1870 as a recreational area. The park was developed over the years rarely changing management. The park belonged to the Cedar Point Pleasure Company." YOU (unnamed IP user) DELETED it — NOT ME — YOU. I RESTORED it, then you DELETED it again. It was at that point that I decided the deleted material (1870 beginnings) may not be pertinent and certainly was not worth my time to argue over. This is the problem that we have had in the past. You can't follow along with how things transpired. I never said the information you added was not pertinent. I didn't think the information YOU DELETED needed to remain. That is why I left your edit in place. Do you understand that? YOU DELETED the text, not I. I never stated that anything that you added was not pertinent. I said the deleted text (1870...) may not be pertinent. In any event, I am not going to continue to engage you. You need to step away again. You are clearly not here to improve this article, all you want to do is debate, and you can't even do that properly. You are arguing about things that didn't even happen.—JlACEer (talk) 22:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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