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Can "building" be the subject of "evicted"?

I'm doing a GA review of Squatting in the Czech Republic. The author uses the word "evicted" in a way I'm not familiar with, but I'm not 100% sure it's wrong. Is it OK to say, "The building was evicted"? I had suggested either "The occupants were evicted" or "The building was cleared", but maybe it's correct the way it is? -- RoySmith (talk) 13:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a good copy-editor but I do work with repossession, and we would never in a professional setting evict a building; you can repossess a building or evict inhabitants. If it's not used as professional jargon I can't imagine it would be used in lay english either. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ 13:24, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
IMO, you're both right. "The building's occupants (or 'tenants', depending on context) were evicted" is clear and makes sense. All the best, Miniapolis 14:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Probably "tenants"; temporary "occupants" of a building are evacuated (during a bomb scare, for instance). Miniapolis 14:19, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In that article, I think it should be the squatters or occupants who are evicted, not the building. I fixed one sentence. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:35, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wrote Squatting in the Czech Republic and am happy to see this discussion, thanks for the opinions. I agree with Miniapolis. In British usage at least and in academic writing on squatting, it is considered normal to talk of a building being evicted. I suppose my position is backed up by buildings empty of squatters also being evicted, as in there are no occupants to evict, yet the building is still evicted as part of the legal process of repossession. Jonesey95 thanks for the edit, but you actually introduced an error by removing the subject of the clause "then re-squatted". I've changed the sentence already as part of my responses to the GA review but happy to change it again as necessary. Mujinga (talk) 16:09, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is {{British English}} appropriate for this article? -- RoySmith (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I guess in the absence of Template: Czech English then Template:British English is adequate in keeping the language style at least consistent throughout the article. Or maybe I misunderstood the thrust of the question? Mujinga (talk) 18:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There was no hidden meaning to the question. I speak American English. If the article is written in a different dialect, then we should identify the dialect to prevent people like me from making "corrections" which aren't really corrections. That's all I meant. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:06, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mujinga, I have never seen that usage (I am American, obviously, but I have encountered a lot of Britishisms in my reading and television/film-watching). Can you please link to a couple of reliable sources using this phrasing? Thanks. In any event, I think it may make sense to use language that is familiar to all English speakers. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:28, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
sure no probs
from the article's sources:
  • "was illustrated by the fact that Klinika was not immediately evicted by riot police" and "Milada was evicted at the time of the global economic crisis of 2008–2009" - 'Rethinking radical activism: Heterogeneity and dynamics of political squatting in Prague after 1989'
elsewhere:
  • "The CSO was evicted in 2013 and was later converted into an elderly activity centre by the municipal administration" Bloomfield: 'Ethnography of the uses, practices, and socio-spatial interaction in okupa (squatted) spaces'
  • "While Wijers was evicted" Owens - 'From Tourists to Anti-Tourists to Tourist Attractions: The Transformation of the Amsterdam Squatters' Movement' - http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/14742830801969340
  • "Weijers was evicted to make room for the construction of a Holiday Inn hotel. When Weijers was evicted" - Pruijy in 'Public Goods versus Economic Interests' ISBN 978-1-138-11897-3
  • "In fact, on 17 December the CSO was evicted by the police executing an order by the judiciary, requested by the Superintendence of Cultural Heritage" Piazza - 'Squatting Social Centres in a Sicilian City: Liberated Spaces and Urban Protest Actors' - doi: 10.1111/anti.12286
Mujinga (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fascinating. I learn something new every day on Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:58, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Struck requests

Hi all, I've just struck two requests here and here. Feel free to review and revert if needed. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 01:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Baffle. I didn't realize until I checked that you struck the acceptances, not the requests themselves All the best, Miniapolis 14:10, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, yes I should have written more clearly; I was a bit tired when I wrote that. I wish these new editors wouldn't ghost us like that. Grrrrrrr! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 21:21, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for keeping up with that stuff, Baffle; it's a PITA. All the best, Miniapolis 23:39, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've also left a note for the acceptor of Einár (rapper). Feel free to act in a week or so. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 04:20, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unfinished conversation

Hello. Today, I heard the sad news about User:Twofingered Typist :-( We were in the middle of a conversation. I would greatly appreciate it if another member of guild would answer my questions: User_talk:4nn1l2#Ayşegül_Coşkun. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 10:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About whether Ayşegül Coşkun's music video Cuk should be in italics, as TfT changed it, or in quotation marks, I'm not sure enough to say definitively. As for She told the Akşam Daily that because she is a Gemini, she felt herself a different person every day she woke up and that was why her works were so different from each other., I believe the emphasized verbs are correct. She told the newspaper in the past about something that continues into the present ("is a Gemini"; "was" would have to be explained further). Dhtwiki (talk) 11:51, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would put the title of a music video for a song in quotation marks, per MOS:MINORWORK: Titles of shorter works should be enclosed in double quotation marks ("text like this"). It particularly applies to works that exist as a smaller part of a larger work. If you want a definitive answer, your best bet is Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Titles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with using quote marks for the music video and the verb tenses given by Dhtwiki. Tdslk (talk) 18:56, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all, one last question: wouldn't it be better (i.e., more natural to a native speaker) if I changed all the following verbs to the present tense? She told the Akşam Daily that because she is a Gemini, she feltfeels herself a different person every day she wokewakes up and that wasis why her works were so different from each other. I intentionally excluded the last verb, because I think she can't predict the future. Sorry if I come across pedantic. I'm really baffled by verb tenses in English. I always have doubts which tense is best to use. Thanks 4nn1l2 (talk) 01:14, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think the present tense looks right in that sentence. I would also change the final "were" to "are". Let us know if you would like someone to look it over once you are happy with the whole article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this request was added with a {{Partly done}} template that seemed to have been added in error here. After checking the requester actually wanted a c/e, I left a message at the talk page here. I got no reply but removed the template. The requester has now been checkuser hard-blocked for incompetence and trolling, see here, so I've put this request on hold and suggest we decline it. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, Baffle. All the best, Miniapolis 00:27, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree with a decline. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:58, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed as well. Tdslk (talk) 02:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Decline. I have good-faith tagged this short article for copy editing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all, I might go over it quickly tonight. That editor reminds me of another whose incompetent copy-edits had to be cleaned up.... but I doubt it's the same person. Is this what happens when copy-editing becomes a "newcomers' task"? Cheers, Baffle☿gab 19:15, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

() c/e done and tags removed. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:05, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yuko Ichihara

Hi all; I've abandoned my attempted c/e of Yuko Ichihara because I found the text too confusing to fully understand. I hope someone else will do a better job than I can. It's quite a word salad in places. I'm sorry. Baffle☿gab 23:14, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To make up for a lost opportunity, would you like to c/e Keladi Kannmanii instead? If not, I hope at least @Miniapolis will. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:08, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Kailash29792, but I'm very busy IRL and determine my own workload. Miniapolis 14:45, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No ta, @Kailash29792:. Baffle☿gab 04:03, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've started looking at the article. Hopefully it's just convoluted plot that's the issue. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:23, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request: Crew resource management

The requester for Crew resource management, NightWolf1223, has been blocked under claims of sockpuppetry. Shall we procedurally decline the request? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:24, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. Yes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:54, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Decline; there's no point wasting time on requests from blocked sock accounts. Baffle☿gab 04:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
no Declined. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

() The requester's account has been unblocked after an appeal to the ArbCom. See the block log. Should the request be restored? Baffle☿gab 04:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, yes. All the best, Miniapolis 19:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. Might as well go with ArbCom. Tdslk (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all; I've restored the request as it was without the decline discussion. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 06:42, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

De-listing of "Karnataka" and "Calculus"

Karnataka and Calculus were both recently de-listed by two different IPs. Both were nominated by User:TheEpicSnek. Plausible reasons were given (and I don't mind seeing the load here lightened), but this is irregular. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I dont see how this would be seen as irregular. I feel that these pages are quite deserving of GA criteria and should be Copyedited. EpicSnek Talk to me here 00:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And also my apologies. I forgot to remove the request from the page as it has already passed GA.EpicSnek Talk to me here 00:24, 28 January 2022 (UTC)\[reply]
After reading the reasons for them to be de-listed, I do find them somewhat peculiar.EpicSnek Talk to me here 00:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What was irregular was their being removed by anonymous editors. You yourself are quite welcome to remove requests that you think no longer need our services. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I apologise for not remembering to remove my requests. I will also make the selections of which pages need to be requested carefully. Thanks.EpicSnek Talk to me here 02:01, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]