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Hi editors, I'm KC and I work for Ascension. I was hoping to make some updates to the article so that the numbers are more accurate. I noticed that the infobox is a little out of date. Our latest hospital and employee numbers are 142 hospitals and 142,000 employees, per this Fierce Healthcare article. I won't make any edits myself because of my conflict of interest. I'd really appreciate the help! Also, if you are interested, I created a draft of what a fully updated Ascension article might look like. You can find that here. Thanks in advance for your help! KC at Ascension (talk) 17:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Partly done: Hi, thanks for using the edit request system and following Wikipedia's COI guidelines! I have implemented the numbers fix. The draft would have to be a separate conversation; at first glance, one thing that raises a flag for me is the minimized content about the Project Nightingale controversy and several lawsuits. It's not necessarily the case that those should be narrated in extensive detail (relevant information that may be of use: WP:IMPARTIAL, WP:PROPORTION, WP:UNDUE and WP:BALANCE) but you will need to justify specifically why that coverage is decreased in your draft body of the article. Remember that Wikipedia's aim is to collect reliable coverage about a subject, which is subtly distinct from cataloging the capital-t Truth. To use an overly simplified analogy, if, say, 30% of reliable source coverage about X is about a lawsuit (even if that lawsuit is ultimately spurious), that's roughly how much attention Wikipedia ought to give to the lawsuit, while remaining careful to avoid taking sides (something that may well need to be corrected in the current form of the article). WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 17:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the quick response and the feedback, WhinyTheYounger! I will definitely take a look at those policies and add my reasoning for wanting to reduce the content related to Project Nightingale and the lawsuits in a separate request. Thanks again! KC at Ascension (talk) 13:44, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi editors, KC here again with another request. I've seen a lot of company articles that have a version of a Company overview section that provides some of the basic operating details, like the revenue, locations, and leadership in one spot. I was wondering if we could try something like that in the Ascension article. I wrote something that may work and would love some feedback on it.
Company overview
Ascension is the largest nonprofit and Catholic health system in the United States. It operates more than 2,600 health care sites in 19 states and Washington, D.C., including 142 hospitals and 40 senior living facilities. It employs more than 142,000 people as of 2021.[1][2] Ascension had an operating revenue of $27.2 billion at the end of fiscal year 2021.[3] The company is led by president and CEO Joseph R. Impicciche and is headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri.[1]
In addition to health and senior care facilities, Ascension also operates a for-profit venture capital subsidiary called Ascension Ventures, which invests in medical startups.[4]
I think this new section helps improve the organization and keeps similar information together, while also creating a more complete and accurate picture of the full range of things that Ascension does. I have seen these sections as the first in the main body of the article, so maybe it could go there? As before, I won't make any edits myself because of my conflict of interest.
Partly done: Hi, thanks for using the edit request system and following Wikipedia's COI guidelines! I have implemented the numbers fix. The draft would have to be a separate conversation; at first glance, one thing that raises a flag for me is the minimized content about the Project Nightingale controversy and several lawsuits. It's not necessarily the case that those should be narrated in extensive detail (relevant information that may be of use: WP:IMPARTIAL, WP:PROPORTION, WP:UNDUE and WP:BALANCE) but you will need to justify specifically why that coverage is decreased in your draft body of the article. Remember that Wikipedia's aim is to collect reliable coverage about a subject, which is subtly distinct from cataloging the capital-t Truth. To use an overly simplified analogy, if, say, 30% of reliable source coverage about X is about a lawsuit (even if that lawsuit is ultimately spurious), that's roughly how much attention Wikipedia ought to give to the lawsuit, while remaining careful to avoid taking sides (something that may well need to be corrected in the current form of the article). WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 17:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
