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Is he of Italian descent? Newager 15:22, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Kevin Sorbo is of Norweigen heritage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.46.73 (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
I have a link to a page of mine about his hometown of Mound, Minnesota. It is www.MoundWestonka.com. I'd like some opinions about whether or not it belongs on this page, before I would post it. As far as I know, the last time he was here was in 1997 for his class re-union. My pages have a picture of the park named after him, and him appearing on a mural.
And yes, I would say he is a Lutheran Norwegian, from what I recall, and his parents first names. Ask him if he eats Lutefisk sometime? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 (talk) 18:37, 24 February 2007. Edited 18:38. (UTC)
As to what a Lutheran Norwegian is, see Garrison Keillor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 (talk) 18:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
It's been a couple weeks, and no one has commented on my above. I'd appreciate an admin posting the link on the page, so that I can stay in Wikipedia's good graces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.214.202.204 (talk) 15:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
He can act!
I'm watching The Santa Suit as I write this -- and Sorbo can actually act! He gives a subdued and affecting performance. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 11:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- No. No, he really can't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.162.105 (talk) 22:06, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
On The Guild
Kevin Sorbo had a cameo in Season 5 Episode 8 of The Guild http://www.watchtheguild.com/its-a-celebrity-party/ --Vampus (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Why Christian faith not mentioned in the Personal section?
In this 100 Huntley Street interview he openly talks about being a Christian in Hollywood, including mentioning he has turned down roles due to his faith http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=bn4MnuSGIko 142.229.80.250 (talk) 01:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- His Christian activism really belong into the article:
"As he takes on Christian films, such as What if … and Soul Surfer while also leaving room for secular films, his only wish is to change the face of Hollywood as we know it. His personal worry is, what will the public consider normal when most things portrayed tell us that our innate moral views might probably be wrong.“Hollywood likes to put out their own message out a lot of times, and that message isn't the best one for everyone,” he noted. “If you keep saying two plus two equals five over and over again, then that is what people are going to think. Maybe it does equal five if we keep changing the definition of what’s normal and what's right and what's wrong.” Sorbo’s concern also carries over to how much Christianity is being bullied by the press over and over again. He lamented, “Christianity takes this beating that I really don’t understand and yet you can't say anything negative about the Muslims because that's horrible, you can't say anything negative about other faiths.“ Through his new roles, he hopes to not only stop the big bullies from beating down Christianity but also transform Hollywood by refining its definition of what is truly right and what is truly good."(Kevin Sorbo – Christian Hercules in Hollywood March 2011 interview on ChristianPost.com)84.152.41.50 (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Julia X
This film is missing from his history. Was this an oversight? 2601:D:1100:430:3510:DB05:B0DD:D6B3 (talk) 06:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Ferguson Controversy
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. Should Sorbo's recent appearances in the news for his commentary on Ferguson be a part of this page? 05:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC) My thoughts: Hullaballoo_Wolfowitz removed additions to this entry regarding Sorbo's controversial comments about demonstrators in Ferguson, citing them as distortion not true to the sources (though they were quotes from Sorbo himself unaltered, so that seems odd.) Perhaps the wording of that content is questionable and should be altered, but if so some suggested edit would be more appropriate than deleting the content wholesale. Consider these points, however: 1) This is probably the only time Sorbo has made headline news in years. 2) His politics and personal beliefs (including his belief that he's the target of industry discrimination) are all over this article as it stands, and not including this part seems like cherry picking. If we're going to devote time to talking about his relationship with the media and his beliefs, this seems like the most notable example of that playing out. Does anyone agree, or have a better way of writing it, or is the consensus that this information shouldn't be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.211.150 (talk) 00:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for opening up a line of dialogue (even if it took some prodding.) I'm not an editor here and use public wifi, so I'm not sure what other history you think I have, but I only know how to start a discussion because I Googled it—it doesn't take a genius. Even so, if I were a sockpuppet (again, I'm not) that seems like an ad hominem issue unrelated to whether I'm wrong or not. And it's certainly not assuming good faith, which I do know to be a thing we're encouraged to do. To your point, however—"Wikipedia is not a place where we memorialize any stupid thing a celebrity may said" — no, certainly not, at least not just for the sake of doing so, but controversial events (related to celebrities or not) are indeed something common in entries, and in this case I maintain that it's the most noteworthy instance of Sorbo's activities even being relevant in modern years. Mainstream news didn't follow the gripping story of the time he hurt his shoulder filming Kull the Conqueror or whatever, but it certainly has followed this. Is it not noteworthy just because it's "embarassing" to the subject? I'm not going to argue it, I certainly have better things to do, but that's my point of view—I'll leave it to others to form a consensus and whatever happens, happens, but I honestly don't get where you're coming from (or your passive-aggressiveness about it.) 50.194.39.67 (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
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Infobox photo caption
I'm not a regular editor here and have no plan to return after posting this. Just wanted to point out that, as I write this, the infobox photo caption reads: "Sorbo at GateCon in 2013" while the file description by the photographer at Wikimedia Commons reads: "Kevin Sorbo on the set of "House of Fears" in 2013." 5Q5 (talk) 17:44, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Done. I returned and revised the caption to just "Sorbo in 2013." I did some research on the photographer and he's a camera operator in film/TV so he must have been working with Sorbo when it was taken. 5Q5 (talk) 17:42, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Kull more notable then the Jim Beam commercial?
I replaced "Kull" with the Jim Beam commercial as one of the roles, he is most known for, and this edit was just undone. I find this rather odd. "Kull" was a generic direct-to-video Fantasy flick, which was rather "most known for starring Sorbo, who at that time was already known as Hercules", then the other way round.
The "Jim Beam" commercial on the other hand was the one production, his face at least (of course not his name) was getting some buzz. The "This ain't Jim Beam" line was often cited, and also I remember, when the first four "Hercules" movies were aired, virtually everybody, in class room as well as in TV guide articles, stated: "That's the guy from the Whisky commercial." I even know a couple of guys, who got their first drunken stupor with that brand of liquor, because of that commecial. And I think, it was aired as well for a long period of time after he became "Hercules", and even in commercial breaks during the Hercules show. So, add that together, there is NO WAY, that he is better known for "Kull".--93.111.43.22 (talk) 11:41, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Changes like that need to be supported by sources: see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Such sources do exist for the Jim Beam commercial, and it probably should be added, with sourcing, to the body of the article. For example, here's the Los Angeles Times, from 1994:
- Sorbo is one actor who doesn't mind being identified with a character. He appears in commercials and is now in the second year of a contract with the makers of the bourbon whiskey Jim Beam. He's played "the Jim Beam guy" in countless commercials--which are played everywhere in the world, except in the United States. His catch-phrase, "It ain't Jim Beam," is often quoted back at him when he travels. "Like I've never heard it before," he says laughing. [4]
- So there's good reason to add the Jim Beam commercials to his bio. But I don't think this necessarily warrants removing Kull the Conqueror from the lead: it was still his first starring role in a feature film. --Arxiloxos (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- That source is more than 20 years old, and can't possibly support what he's known for today. In the absence of sourced content in the body of the article, the claim absolutely didn't belong in the lede. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 15:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'd dare to say, outside the USA, he is better known for the Jim Beam commercial, then the bible belt feature film production, even today. Not sure, how good a source this is, but a quick google search of "Sam Raimi Jim Beam" found e.g. this site: https://phantanews.de/wp/2016/01/kevin-sorbo-in-neuer-serie-von-raimi-und-tapert/
- Final sentence (as a punchline) translated from German: "It is still to be confirmed, if Jim Beam will get a cameo."
- But anyway, is it really that importent, how old the LA Times article is? What, if Kevin Sorbo is complettely forgotten in 100 Years, should his entry then be ereased from Wikipedia? Don't think, that's what this site is aiming at? Regarding Kull, IMdB does not list a theatrical release. As far as I know, this was DTV. So what's the big difference to the four feature lenght Hercules TV-movires, the series started with? Other, then this made him better known, while the Kull movie was made withhim to participate on the Hercules publicity.--78.142.179.31 (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Notability is not temporary, but some descriptions are transient. If you're going to make a claim about what he is best known for currently, you need a reasonably current source. Courtney Cox was once best known for appearing in a Bruce Springsteen video. To say that's among the roles she's best known for decades later would be preposterously inaccurate. Bernie Sanders isn't best known for being mayor of a town in Vermont, either. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 16:16, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Regarding your second sentence, there still is no reasonably current source for the other parts, either. I won't argue his notability for Hercules and probably the other leading part in a TV-series (since it span as many episodes) to be the two top known performences in his carrere, but where is the source for "God's Not Death" or "Kull"?--78.142.179.31 (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- On some reflection, I think 78.142.179.31 makes a cogent point here; I would not oppose a change in the lead section to say simply that he's best known for his starring roles in Hercules and Andromeda—since I don't think anyone disagrees that those series are his best known efforts—and leave the rest out of the lead. I will also add a reference to Jim Beam in the Career section (but not the lead).--Arxiloxos (talk) 15:28, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
- Regarding your second sentence, there still is no reasonably current source for the other parts, either. I won't argue his notability for Hercules and probably the other leading part in a TV-series (since it span as many episodes) to be the two top known performences in his carrere, but where is the source for "God's Not Death" or "Kull"?--78.142.179.31 (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- Notability is not temporary, but some descriptions are transient. If you're going to make a claim about what he is best known for currently, you need a reasonably current source. Courtney Cox was once best known for appearing in a Bruce Springsteen video. To say that's among the roles she's best known for decades later would be preposterously inaccurate. Bernie Sanders isn't best known for being mayor of a town in Vermont, either. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006. (talk) 16:16, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
- But anyway, is it really that importent, how old the LA Times article is? What, if Kevin Sorbo is complettely forgotten in 100 Years, should his entry then be ereased from Wikipedia? Don't think, that's what this site is aiming at? Regarding Kull, IMdB does not list a theatrical release. As far as I know, this was DTV. So what's the big difference to the four feature lenght Hercules TV-movires, the series started with? Other, then this made him better known, while the Kull movie was made withhim to participate on the Hercules publicity.--78.142.179.31 (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
College attendance
Kevin lived on my dorm floor at MSU-Moorhead. In the celebrity ghost story section there is a reference to him graduating from college but I believe that is not correct. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.18.53.159 (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2019 (edited 02:02) (UTC)
Error Corrections regarding his health scare in the 90s
The time of his strokes is accurate, but the article states that this affected the last two seasons, season 5 & 6 being the last two seasons. This is not correct. This also affected the 4th Season, and probably more heavily than others, as large parts of the production wasn't finished until 1998, such as the episode "Porkules" which was shot in January of 98, several months after his health crisis. The episode, featuring Sorbo voicing over for a pig, as opposed to featuring him in a major on screen presence, even serves as an example of how they adjusted film production around. I suggest better wordsmiths than I, adjust the article to reflect that it was the 4th (in particular) and 5th Season that was most heavily affected by Sorbo's health problems.
173.218.98.78 (talk) 01:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
The Health section included "Sorbo experienced an aneurysm in his shoulder which caused four strokes.", but the HuffPo reference says "aneurysm followed by three strokes". cbn.com ref not useful, because now redirects to CBN homepage and wayback doesn't have useful text:
- without Ruffle: "You need the latest version of the flash player and JavaScript enabled to view this content." (but flashplayer defunct)
- with Ruffle: "Ruffle failed to load the Flash SWF file. The most likely reason is that the file no longer exists".
Changed "four strokes" to "three strokes". --EarthFurst (talk) 00:37, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Sorbo has been accused of antisemitism. [citation needed]
Is there really a need for citation right before the whole part of him saying that jews killed jesus? Seems unnecessary and self-evident.
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Under personal life, it should be included that Sorbo publicly supported the storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021 via Tweeting from his verified account.
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346898602984144896
https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1346913575080759314 2600:6C67:5000:6448:6184:6599:6C01:6292 (talk) 00:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done for now: Please provide reliable sources discussing this to show it's WP:DUE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
I agree that this should be brought up in his personal life section. Basically his entire social media presence revolves around his political beliefs, which include the false claim that the 2020 United States Presidential Election was stolen. However, there is zero reference in the article to his political beliefs. Source: Nearly all of his Twitter posts. https://twitter.com/ksorbs Wikipedian24601 (talk) 02:05, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Stolen election claims: https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1326179983954505729 https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1324117412246147073 Wikipedian24601 (talk) 03:17, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- User:Wikipedian24601 this is the same IP that posted the same edit over and over. Will seek admin if this persists for disruptive edits. It may result in ban and it seems maybe even sockpuppeting.
- Also, WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTGOSSIP policies apply to any biography. People say lots of stuff on twitter. None of it belongs on Wikipedia. Lucy Lawless does not have anything on her political views for example. Ramos1990 (talk) 06:04, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorbo's entire online existence right now is about pushing Trump's election fraud lie. He's pro-insurrection, in addition to his already having been a racist, antisemitic, misogynistic bully whom no one wants to work with.
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