Talk:John Cleese
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2019
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I'd like to propose that (in section Fawlty Towers):
- Characters Manuel and Polly ought to be linked to;
- Catchprase (or whatever it's) "He's from Barcelona..." ought to be trimmed out - it's unnecessary sidetracking in this there article and sufficiently covered in respective articles about Fawlty Towers and Manuel. Thanks. -90.179.120.43 (talk) 18:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020
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If someone could remove "voice actor" from his occupations sections, that would be good. It's because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work. 2600:1000:B04F:5154:D4AE:DDDD:C5D8:A0DA (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2020
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"Voice actor" in the first sentance of the article still hasn't been removed yet, because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work. As shown how it should be here: "is an English actor, voice actor, comedian, screenwriter, and producer." to "is an English actor, comedian, screenwriter, and producer. 2600:1000:B039:1953:A076:752:8884:90F5 (talk) 17:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Done: Being a voice actor is a subset of being an actor.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:20, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
please fix the bang bang link
The "Bang bang!" link should point to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang_Bang!_(play) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.64.249.221 (talk) 23:21, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
- Done: It was going to the correct article but there was a WP:PIPE. The article was renamed in February 2020.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:28, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Surname pronunciation
The article currently gives the pronunciation of Cleese as /kliːz/
Do we have a source for this? Because I've always heard his name as being pronounced /kliːs/
Oska (talk) 10:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- I've tried, but I can't get the hang of the phonetic stuff. I would simply say that Cleese rhymes with cease and geese. HiLo48 (talk) 10:56, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- S or Z, now there's a question. It may depend to some extent on the speaker. IPA is never an exact science and is usually given when there is a risk of the name being mispronounced. It's interesting that the family's name was Cheese at one point, and this is definitely with a Z.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 10:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- No it doesn't. It rhymes with "these" and "cheese". So the IPA phonetic transcription is correct, as far as I know. Maybe there is a UK/US divergence here? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC) e.g. c/o Michael Parkinson in 2010: [1]
- You're right that Parkinson pronounces it with a /z/ and I've just watched a BBC clip where the presenter pronounces his name with a /z/ too when she introduces him. So perhaps I've just been wrong all this time. (Of course, my thinking on the matter is immaterial.) Oska (talk) 12:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- As a life-long UK resident and native English-speaker, and fan of Cleese since my early teens, I've never heard his name pronounced to rhyme with geese. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- This is an interesting problem. In Australia, the name always rhymes with cease and geese. Obviously it's different elsewhere. Wikipedia should probably mention both pronunciations. HiLo48 (talk) 20:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- I think you'll find it's pronounced /bɹuːs/: [2]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:20, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Blbliography
Shouldn't the Bibliography include something like:
John Cleese & Connie Booth The Complete Fawlty Towers Methuen Mandarin 1989 ISBN 0 7493 0159 7
There's also an earlier edition (1988), but I don't have any other details, other than that it's published by Methuen.
Cheers,
115.189.95.100 (talk) 01:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- The purists might say that this is not a book but simply a written collection of the scripts of Fawlty Towers. What do others think.?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Well, it has got an ISBN, so it's probably a book. It also has eight pages of black & white photos, with amusing captions. (incidentally, they are not the pictures I would have chosen - for instance, if there had been one illustrating Page 137, The Germans, it would have clarified the point that Basil is being appallingly racist when he 'collides' with the black doctor.)
115.189.88.127 (talk) 20:41, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2021
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In the 21st century section, paragraph 3, please add a {{citation needed}} tag after the following: Also in 2005, a long-standing piece of Internet humour, "The Revocation of Independence of the United States", was wrongly attributed to Cleese.
-- I cannot find evidence that such a thing exists. Or, add citation if it does.
Thanks, 107.15.157.44 (talk) 01:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
- Deleted the sentence. It didn't add much, if anything, to the article. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 4 September 2021
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The google synopsis for this page does not include the fact he was in monthly python. The synopsis for all other members of monty python does include this information. Please update Cleese’s bio/synopsis so this information would be included on the google search Wikipedia synopsis 2A02:C7F:F4B9:E000:2596:83ED:1437:D65F (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: This is also a can't do, because Wikipedia has no control over how articles appear in search engine results, which are on external websites. Here is a screenshot of how it currently appears on Google. What seems to have happened is that they have used the opening paragraph, but chopped it off before it gets to the part about Monty Python.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:55, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
Smoking cessation edits
An edit has been made to this section changing the.positive effects of the campaign from "half again" to "half". In numeric terms this is changing fron 150% to 50% implying that the cessation advertisements had a negative rather than positive affect. Whilst this might be comically amusing it's not true.
I have reviewed the link cited and it states that there is an overall positive benefit from the adverts.
Please review and correct, or point out that I'm wrong, as i believe it reflects poorly on JC 80.229.39.99 (talk) 07:46, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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