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Earl of Wessex and Forfar

Prince Edward is now listed as this, but does it not suggest that it is one title? The Earldom of Forfar was bestowed upon His Royal Highness in 2019, ostensibly to give him a Scottish title, and is in no way linked to the English one. 92.30.70.49 (talk) 14:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He has been referred to as the Earl of Wessex and Forfar in court circulars, press releases, and news reports. Falls under WP:COMMONNAME HolaQuetzalcoatl (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 September 2022

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Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex → Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and Forfar – I think in the UK he's known simply as "prince Edward", and if we're going to start saying his titles, naming the English earldom of Wessex and not the Scottish earldom of Forfar sounds a bit disrespectul to Scotland. Alternatively, something that doesn't mention any of the 2 earldoms would also be fine. And this may become a moot point in the future if he gets given the dukedom of Edinburgh (but, of course, that would be WP:CRYSTAL). Dr. Vogel (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support We don't know if he'll ever be created Duke of Edinburgh. That's WP:CRYSTAL. At the moment he's the Earl of Wessex and Forfar, per official palace statements.^[1] He has since been specifically referred to as the Earl of Wessex and Forfar when information was published on his father's funeral arrangements,^[2] and in statements made by charities of which he is either a patron or trustee, such as the Duke of Edinburgh's Awards and the Seafarer's Charity.^[3]^[4] So the title has been in use since 2019-2020 and this is a clear case of WP:NAMECHANGES. Also, per MOS:IDENTITY a person's choice of name must also be considered and he has chosen to be known as the Earl of Wessex and Forfar, rather than the Earl of Wessex (just as his nephew William was known as the Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge for a day but that didn't prevent a page move). And regarding to the point that he's known simply as Prince Edward in the UK, no, he's not and that's because there's another Prince Edward, the Queen's cousin Prince Edward, Duke of Kent. Keivan.f^Talk 19:02, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Several court circulars, press releases, news reports, and members of the public have been using 'Earl of Wessex and Forfar' to refer to The Prince Edward since at least last year. Falls under WP:COMMONNAME. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HolaQuetzalcoatl (talk • contribs) 20:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "A statement from The Earl of Wessex and Forfar". The Royal Family. 16 September 2022. Retrieved 17 September 2022.
^ "The Funeral of The Duke of Edinburgh". royal.uk. 4 December 2017. Archived from the original on 2 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.
^ "HRH The Earl of Wessex and Forfar KG GCVO". The Duke of Edinburgh's International Award. Archived from the original on 11 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.
^ "To our Merchant Navy… THANK YOU". The Seafarers' Charity. Archived from the original on 11 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.

[1] "A statement from The Earl of Wessex and Forfar". The Royal Family. 16 September 2022. Retrieved 17 September 2022.

[2] "The Funeral of The Duke of Edinburgh". royal.uk. 4 December 2017. Archived from the original on 2 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.

[3] "HRH The Earl of Wessex and Forfar KG GCVO". The Duke of Edinburgh's International Award. Archived from the original on 11 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.

[4] "To our Merchant Navy… THANK YOU". The Seafarers' Charity. Archived from the original on 11 February 2022. Retrieved 11 February 2022.

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