User talk:Simulaun
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Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!
Mitch Ames (talk) 05:44, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
April 2022
Hi Simulaun! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Perth that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Most of your edits are tagged as minor but are not minor. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:56, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Melbourne, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Gain consensus for the removal of sourced content; stop edit warring. —MelbourneStar☆talk 15:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Rottnest
Hey, it is great that you are keen on Rottnest history, but the content you've been adding about Terra Nullius go against Wikipedia policy of no original research as none of those sources make any claim about Rottnest being 'bona fide Terra Nullius'. The source provided that claims it was 'officially discovered' by Vlamingh is just a blurb about a pamphlet and is really insufficient for making the claim that a place that had already been inhabited, as well as visited by other explorers. I'd suggest using the Rottnest talk page if you want to make the case for either of those matters further, rather than making the same edits repeatedly.The Logical Positivist (talk) 07:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
June 2022
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Geelong. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. There is ongoing discussion on this issue on the Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board. Making any more edits of this kind while the dispute is active is against Wikipedia policies. Poketama (talk) 08:25, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Geelong=Djilang/Djalang (just different spellings), so there is not really a need to state it three times. My previous edit briefly explained the origin/etymology of the name, which is in keeping with the core mission of Wikipedia (NPOV information). Simulaun (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate that and your prior work, we'll have to fix things up after the RfC is done. Poketama (talk) 12:48, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
July 2022
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Sydney, you may be blocked from editing. Padgriffin Griffin's Nest 13:20, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- My intention is to provide informative and unbiased content, which I presume is one of Wikipedia's key missions. Adding physical evidence (in this case a map by an unrelated third party) seems fully in line with this objective as well as "progress toward improving an article or building the encyclopedia", so please provide more details why you nonetheless consider this to be disruptive editing. Also, the map in question is the first item in 'Images' when 'Eora map of Sydney' is searched in Google, so please also provide more details why you consider the number 1 Google Images search result to be unsourced or poorly sourced content. Simulaun (talk) 11:39, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
consensus?
Hi! Before edit warring ensues, can you please point to where on Talk:Melbourne there is consensus for this edit, which you claim was "per WP:Talk"? because I don't see it. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆talk 12:28, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
- Concern 1: The initial edit was considered on WP:Talk to 'probably be a good addition to the article, but it needs a source'. As stated in WP:Talk, the source is 3AW. Additional sources pertaining to the issue more generally, and the quoted individual, have now also been provided.
- Concern 2: By quoting someone, it was alleged on WP:talk that the initial entry amounted to a single point of view. As pointed out on WP:Talk, this is not a particularly valid criticism. Moreover, this has now been addressed by presenting the topic more broadly ("The introduction of indigenous names...", as stated in reference by lonelyplanet.com)
- Concern 3; It was claimed that the quoted individual (Ian Hunter) is non-notable. Although this does not appear to be a valid or relevant criticism (e.g., not all quotes on WP need to be from well-known individuals), this concern has now been addressed by the addition of four additional references documenting significant exposure of this individual's views and activities on public news outlets.
- Concern 4: It was claimed that the quoted individual cannot have been an 'elder' for 30 years. Although this criticism also appear to lack validity or relevance (e.g., there can be a degree of variation in how one interprets 'being an elder for 30 years'), this concern has also been addressed as the four additional references attest to broad-based recognition of the quoted individual's involvement in Aboriginal culture and their apparent credentials as an Aboriginal 'elder'. Simulaun (talk) 09:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's not consensus. Your opinion, only your views or mostly yours is not consensus. You are simply edit warring, and I'd encourage you to either continue the discussion on talk - or cease adding disputed content. —MelbourneStar☆talk 09:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- "The introduction of Indigenous names for places to honour Aboriginal culture is not straightforward, however. Naming entire cities, such as Sydney or Melbourne, which did not exist as a single entity prior to British colonization, means a name has to be chosen that doesn’t always represent the whole geographical footprint" is not disputed content. Please explain your reasoning for deleting it. Simulaun (talk) 12:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
- That's not consensus. Your opinion, only your views or mostly yours is not consensus. You are simply edit warring, and I'd encourage you to either continue the discussion on talk - or cease adding disputed content. —MelbourneStar☆talk 09:05, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Edit at Hobart
I reverted your edit on Hobart. The use of dual naming on the Hobart page and other Australian pages has been the subject of massive debate both on Talk:Hobart, other city talkpages, and wp:WikiProject Australia. Presently there is no consensus to remove Indigenous naming, and in the case of Hobart, it is used official by state and local authorities as I have outlined on the talk page previously. If you have further evidence to counter this, I would be happy to hear it on the talk page, but given that there has been consistent vandalism on this topic from multiple editors, please refrain from editing out "nipaluna" without discussion. JTdaleTalk~ 14:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
- As "The city lies on country which (sic) was known by (sic) the local Mouheneener people as nipaluna, a name which (sic) includes surrounding features such as kunanyi/Mt. Wellington and timtumili minanya (River Derwent)" appears to be plausible information, I see no pressing need to edit/correct this sentence. But as Nuennonne/Palawa kani: nipaluna 'includes surrounding features such as kunanyi/Mt. Wellington and timtumili minanya (River Derwent)', it clearly is not the same as the city Hobart (which does not include these features) and should hence not be presented as such on WP:Hobart, even if others are prone to making this error. Simulaun (talk) 12:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)