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Tech News: 2022-46

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 November. It will be on all wikis from 17 November (calendar).
  • There will be a new link to directly "Edit template data" on Template pages. [3]

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:53, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Great baths (disambiguation)

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-MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Great Baths (disambiguation)

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username MPGuy2824, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I have tagged Great Baths (disambiguation) for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. You may find our guide for writing quality articles to be extremely informative. Also, you may want to consider working on future articles in draft space first, where they cannot be deleted for lacking content.

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-MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Citizens through descent categories deletion question

Hi, I saw that you closed the discussion Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_November_6#Category:Citizens_through_descent as merge per proposal – the proposal being for "citizens of X by descent" categories to be merged to "people with acquired X citizenship" categories – despite there being:

  • 1 !oppose, as the result would be confusing. A comment against this from the proposer acknowledged that there are two 'categories' of people included in the category to be merged and a better solution could be discussed.
  • 1 !merge per proposal, and
  • 1 !merge to a different set of categories, as the commenter noted that more articles in the category were "citizens of X nationality born abroad" than those who later acquired citizenship

I agree with the first and last !votes, and perhaps the category should have been split so that there will be less confusion in sorting the articles, but in any case, three contrasting !votes is not a consensus at all, and I don't believe this discussion should have been closed. I am here to encourage you to reverse the merges and relist the discussion, rather than taking this to the more laborious WP:DELREV. Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

@Kingsif, I agree this should be relisted. I didn't notice the second merge !vote mentioned different merge targets. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:07, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
@Kingsif,  Reverted and relisted. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
@Qwerfjkl: Ah, thanks! Kingsif (talk) 22:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

DabCatter

DabCatter is working well but I found one minor issue: the page may get deleted between compiling the list and editing the page. I think the only cases are Great Baths (disambiguation) and Great baths (disambiguation). Can you check the page still exists immediately before editing it? Certes (talk) 23:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

@Certes, sure, I just didn't think any would get deleted. I could also check if it's already tagged with {{R to disambiguation page}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
We're now down from about 1300 to 27 untagged redirects: quarry:query/68885. The ones I checked are now. Would another run pick these up, or shall I edit them manually? Certes (talk) 12:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
@Certes, I've added the exists() check, and I've run it on those pages. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:53, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Category:Ancient Egyptian Royal Seal-bearer

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Did you intend to tag this category page for deletion? You closed a CFD with this category as a merge but the other category has not been created yet. Please do not just close the discussions but also handle the follow through on what should happen with the categories involved in the discussions. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz,
As with § CFD categories, I've listed the category on the WT:CFDW page. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #547

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming:
      • Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #130, November 27 at 13.00 UTC
      • Wiki <3 Data - How to use Wikidata for data visualization. Join us on Monday 28 Nov. from 13:15 - 17:00 at Aalto University in Espoo, Finland or online! - Hosted by Visual Communication Design programme at Aalto Arts, workshop by Yamen Bousrih.
      • Next Wikidata Bug Triage Hour about Entity Schemas and other topics, on December 6th at 17:00 on Jitsi
    • Ongoing:
  • Development
    • REST API: continuing work on adjusting JSON request and response format (phab:T321459)
    • Lexicographical data:
      • Added separation between identifiers and other statements on Lexemes (phab:T318310)
      • Fixed the case where language fallback indicators where shown on Special:NewLexeme when they should not be (phab:T322687)
      • Adjusted the help link for the spelling variant input field (phab:T315161)
    • Mismatch Finder:
      • Finished work on better handling of dates (phab:T288511)
      • Finished work on allowing mismatches with empty Wikidata values to make it possible to use the Mismatch Finder also for suggesting missing data (phab:T313468)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Tech News: 2022-47

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Recent changes

  • The display of non-free media in the search bar and for article thumbnails in Special:Search has been deactivated. Further details are in T320661.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 22 November at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 24 November at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:19, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox/34 (November 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gobonobo was:
This submission seems to be a test edit and not an article worthy of an encyclopedia. Please use the sandbox for any editing tests, but do not submit for review until you have an article that you want reviewed for inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
gobonobo + c 16:27, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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Question from Ameer al safar (08:17, 22 November 2022)

Hi Mentor, When I recently created a film article, I found the producer Sandip Senan and director Tharun Moorty don't have a Wikipedia article, when I check to create Sandip Senan, I found there are some warnings about previous deletions. Could you check and advise me regarding this? Do I need to try it or avoid creating it ? awaiting your response. --Ameer al safar (talk) 08:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ameer al safar, it appears the page was moved to draftspace because it was not ready for mainspace, at Draft:Sandip Senan, and then deleted because that draft was abandoned (CSD G13). You can request it be restored at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/G13. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:24, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
@user:Qwerfjkl Hey, just got it recovered, could you check? Only the filmography section I can add, some rest details are there, could you give me an advise that do I need to work on it or not? Because now I have doubt that the topic is eligible or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameer al safar (talk • contribs) 07:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
@Ameer al safar, it could be notable under either WP:FILMMAKER or WP:GNG. The subject seems to have produced a lot of notable films, so they might be notable. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Ok will collect more details as I can. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameer al safar (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Eton college categories

You closed the CFD Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 14#Eton College categories in accordance with the unanimous opinion. Thank you. Sadly the outcome is unreasonable. For example the bot upmerged the category at John Moyer Heathcote[5] which had the effect of removing the article from the Category:English barristers tree because Category:Barristers educated at Eton College was a subcategory of that also (see archive) and so the English barrister category was not required directly in the article. This seems likely to be a general problem. I have corrected only two cases. What should be done? Thincat (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

  • The creation and populating was done by Rathfelder quite recently at his usual breakneck speed. (People educated at Eton are of all nationalities, so the inclusion was wrong anyway.) Would it be possible to undo the edit made by Rathfelder to populate the category? Most of the Eton categories will be OK but I agree that barristers will not necessarily be in another 'barristers' category. Clergy too perhaps. (This said, an upmerge to 'English barristers' (or British would be better) would be correct most of the time.) Oculi (talk) 13:07, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #548

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events
    • Upcoming:
      • Save the date! The next WikidataCon will take place on October 28-29, 2023, and will be organized by Wikimedia Taiwan and Wikimedia Germany. The hybrid event will be streamed from Taipei and accessible for everyone online. More information and updates on d:Wikidata:WikidataCon_2023
      • Next LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 29, 2022: We will be discussing openly managed data gathering and management with Holly Little (Smithsonian), Sabine von Mering (Museum für Naturkunde), Erica Krimmel (Florida State University), and Debra Paul (University of Illinois)! Agenda
      • A Hands-On Introduction to Wikidata: Thursday December 1, 2022 at 17:00 UTC. By the end of this session, you will be able to edit Wikidata records about the cultural venues that matter most to you.
      • Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #131, December 4 at 13.00 UTC
    • Past:
      • Wikibase live session (November 2022) log
  • Development
    • REST API:
      • Finished the adjusted statement data structure (phab:T321459)
      • Simplifying the structure of sitelinks in Item data (phab:T321483)
      • Simplifying the value format for entity ID, time and globecoordinate value types (phab:T322734)
      • Investigating the way forward for rate limiting (phab:T322746)
    • Ontology issues: Preparing a survey for re-users of Wikidata's data about the different types of ontology issues and which ones are causing the most issues for application builders
    • Mismatch Finder:
      • Finishing the work on making it possible to provide mismatches with an empty Wikidata value so the tool can also be used to suggest new data (phab:T313468)
      • Finishing the work on better handling of calendar models and precision for dates (phab:T288511)
    • Lexicographical data: Fixing bugs:

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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Tech News: 2022-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

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  • A new preference, “Enable limited width mode”, has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also available as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. It allows for increasing the width of the page for logged-out and logged-in users. [6]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 November. It will be on all wikis from 1 December (calendar).
  • Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 29 November at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 1 December at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
  • Mathematical formulas shown in SVG image format will no longer have PNG fall-backs for browsers that don't support them. This is part of work to modernise the generation system. Showing only PNG versions was the default option until in February 2018. [7][8][9]
  • On some wikis that use flagged revisions, a new checkbox will be added to Special:Contributions that enables you to see only the pending changes by a user. [10]

Future changes

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Growth team newsletter #23

Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights

Screenshot of the positive reinforcement module improvements.

Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test

The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.

Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.

This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.

Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback

After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.

We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:

  • Patroller fatigue:
    • By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.
  • Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
    • Add a Link
      • Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
      • The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
      • The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
    • Add an Image
      • Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
      • Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
      • We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023. [12]

The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.

Recent changes

  • All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request. [13]
  • The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available. [14][15]
  • Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.

News for mentors

  • All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
    • We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
    • Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting Special:MentorDashboard.
    • Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
    • A new special page — Special:ManageMentors — now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
  • The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees. [16]

Deployments

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20:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ameer al safar (07:58, 30 November 2022)

Dear Mentor, I have created a bio article Sreejith Sarang, he is one of the well-known editors in India. could you check and advise me on anything else I should improve? The article has a deletion history 3 years back. But I believe that he is eligible with his current portfolio. I have added a stub temp too, as the article lacks some information. Please check and give me a concise advice. --Ameer al safar (talk) 07:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ameer al safar, it was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sreejith Sarang as failing WP:GNG. You need to make sure there is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". — Qwerfjkltalk 09:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Amadea (yacht)

Information icon Hello, Qwerfjkl. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Amadea (yacht), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:00, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget. (T319449)

Arbitration

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from Akashbajwa111 (19:58, 2 December 2022)

Does Wikipedia pay? --Akashbajwa111 (talk) 19:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Akashbajwa111, pay editors? No, see WP:VOLUNTEER. — Qwerfjkltalk 21:42, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
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