Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Podcasting

Rotating List of Podcast Proposals

Feel free to add a podcast if it's trending on iTunes or you think it qualifies as a well-known classic TipsyElephant (talk) 01:17, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Podcast of the Month Proposals

Fiction	Fiction AfC	Non-Fiction	Nonfiction AfC	Networks, Platforms, and Genres
Within the Wires		Revolutions		Decoder Ring Theatre
The Far Meridian		Radiolab	Canary: The Washington Post Investigates	Radiotopia
Welcome to Night Vale	Six Minutes	Serial	Something Was Wrong	Wondery
Alice Isn't Dead	Steal the Stars	Dissect	Red Collar	AntennaPod
The Black Tapes	Supernatural with Ashley Flowers	Reply All	The Mismatch (podcast)	AudioBoom
Lore (podcast)	Get Sleepy: Sleep meditation and stories	Crime Junkie	Ten Percent Happier with Dan Harris	Podcasting in India
	Blood Ties (podcast)	The Moth	On Purpose with Jay Shetty	Podcast Movement
The NoSleep Podcast	Full Body Chills	The Daily	Myths and Legends (podcast)	Earwolf
Sleep With Me	Ghost Tape	This American Life	The Vergecast	Draft:The podcast revolution
Hank the Cowdog (Podcast is a section of this page)	Wow in the World	Code Switch	Misfits Podcast	Draft:Podcasting during the coronavirus pandemic

Prior collaboration discussions

January 2021 Added some more based on the top 5 in every iTunes category. starsandwhales (talk) 18:03, 6 December 2020 (UTC) The list is getting pretty long. Do you think there's a better way to organize the information or be more selective with our choices? Also, should we remove podcasts that we've already had as a podcast of the month? Any preferences on the January podcast? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC) I'm nominating Stuff You Should Know as the podcast of the month for January. Since The Adventure Zone is a fiction podcast and we decided to alternate each month between fiction and non-fiction. Unless there are objections I'll change it tomorrow. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC) Oh I didn't see this before choosing another article, sorry. We could have Stuff You Should Know as the March article? starsandwhales (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC) That sounds fine to me. To be honest, I just chose at random so I could keep the article of the month going. Would you like to switch it to 99% Invisible? It looks like it's still Stuff You Should Know on the main page. We could do 99% Invisible in March too, either is fine and I don't really have a preference. Starsandwhales TipsyElephant (talk) 21:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC) February 2021 I'm nominating Dirty Diana for the February podcast of the month. The previous podcast was non-fiction so I picked a fictional podcast, and we have yet to nominate a podcast that doesn't have an article yet so I figured I'd pick one this time. It's also a romance podcast of sorts and Valentines day is in February so I feel like it is appropriate for the month. It also appears to have the most news coverage compared to the other AfC fictional podcast proposals. I'll get the article started today. Let me know if anyone objects. TipsyElephant (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC) Sounds interesting! Are you planning on making it a DYK for Valentines day? Did we ever figure out the January article? (I've been working on other articles so I haven't had time to work on the afc) starsandwhales (talk) 22:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC) @Starsandwhales: to be honest I don't know anything about DYK so I'd have to spend quite a while reading up on it, but I'd definitely be open to it if someone is willing to help. I decided that 99% Invisible should be the article of the month because you had nominated it and it seems to be a fairly important podcast with extensive coverage and relevant content. I've made some minor improvements on the page, but I haven't spent a ton time on it yet. I've mostly been spending my time working on stubs and drafts (Enhanced_podcast, Come to Papa (podcast), Draft:Music podcast, Draft:Dirty Diana (podcast), and Draft:IHeartRadio Podcast Awards) adding categories to podcast articles and getting the "fictional" categories sorted out (here) TipsyElephant (talk) 16:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC) I've done DYK a couple of times so I'd be totally willing to walk you through the process. I can also nominate the article for you when you like. You can read up on the criteria here, DYK eligibility criteria, it's not too stringent. starsandwhales (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2021 (UTC) I think this recommendation is fine. Has there been much collaborative improvement to 99% Invisible for this month? Speaking for myself, sometimes I find it hard to think of how to improve an article that is in pretty decent shape. Starting new articles seems like something easier to contribute to if not familiar with the podcast. Perhaps the list above should list some goals of each recommended collaboration? It's self explanatory for the redlinks and drafts, but sometimes not as clear for existing articles. Perhaps a way to gage who has interest in any of the items in the list as well? -2pou (talk) 18:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC) I think the goals for the collaboration should be a month by month discussion, so when more people in the project have more time the goals will naturally be loftier. I think we should also have discussions on what the next collaboration should be. Maybe we can alternate between existing and new articles? starsandwhales (talk) 22:01, 26 January 2021 (UTC) I'd be okay if you guys don't want to do Dirty Diana and we can discuss alternative podcast nominations. Do any of you have recommendations Starsandwhales 2pou? I just figured I'd make sure to keep nominating and pushing for the collaboration of the month to continue. I think 99% Invisible was significantly lacking in sources (like there were plenty available but very few cited). I added a few for the book but I didn't spend much time on the article because I keep getting sidetracked. I can look into providing a list of needed improvements unless someone else wants to do it. I'd also be totally up for alternating between existing and new articles. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:44, 29 January 2021 (UTC) I think we both thought it was a good recommendation. Sorry that wasn't clear on my part. -2pou (talk) 23:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC) March 2021 What are people's thoughts on doing MBMBaM for March?starsandwhales (talk) 18:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC) (edit conflict)What is the goal? Get it to GA status? It's already at C, and looks decent, so I guess that's the next logical step. Build a reception section? I'm not really familiar, but I'm certainly not opposed. -2pou (talk) 18:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Nevermind they already have an article! It's under My Brother, My Brother and Me. starsandwhales (talk) 18:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC) Don't know if we should have articles for podcast networks on the rotating list as well. These articles are listed (under our new guidelines) as being top/high importance, but there really isn't much coverage of them.starsandwhales (talk) 18:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC) I personally want to get Forever Dog and QCODE articles at some point. Maybe Pineapple Street Studios. I didn't think many would be interested in having those be a collab project, but maybe I'm wrong. -2pou (talk) 18:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC) I noticed while working on creating the guidelines for importance that high importance articles have very little editing activity because they are so difficult to add to or they are boring in some way. For instance, genres like Political podcast and Horror podcast have very few edits despite being so broad in scope (on the first page of revision history you can see all the way back to 2016 for both pages). I still think they're far more important than most podcasts simply because of scope and the fact that categories are somewhat based on them or vice versa. Not to mention most podcasts should eventually link to a genre and network because they're parameters for the podcast infobox. I would be fine with editing or creating pages for networks, but I hadn't suggested it yet because I wasn't sure anyone was interested. I'd also be okay with working on My Brother, My Brother and Me, but I think if we do then our goal should definitely be to at least get it to a B status if not a GA status. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC) April 2021 After nominating Dirty Diana (podcast) I feel like I should nominate something with less of a mature theme. So I'm nominating Draft:The Alien Adventures of Finn Caspian or Hank the Cowdog for the collaboration of the month in April. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:26, 27 March 2021 (UTC) May 2021 Unless someone objects I'm nominating Serial for the month of May. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC) June 2021 Should something LGBTQIA+ related be put forward for June? Gnittopsniart (talk) 10:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC) @Gnittopsniart: Seems fine to me. Do you have a suggestion. I think The Two Princes and Las Culturistas fit, but I don't know much about the topic... -2pou (talk) 05:35, 1 June 2021 (UTC) Oh, I guess there are these ones as well (for existing pages, that is): Category:LGBT-related podcasts. -2pou (talk) 05:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC) I'll change the collaboration of the month to The Two Princes unless anyone objects. If someone would prefer a different podcast feel free to change it. TipsyElephant (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC) July 2021 I would like to nominate a podcast about Islam or hosted by Muslim creators for the month of July because Eid al-Adha is on July 20th. I don't know a ton about Islam, but I found a few podcasts that might meet WP:GNG. The three I've found that are most likely to meet Wikipedia's guidelines are The Mo Show, Higher Ground: Tell Them, I Am, and This Being Human. I'm nominating This Being Human. Here are some sources that could be used: Toronto Star Toronto.com Broadway World Wallpaper* TipsyElephant (talk) 14:20, 30 June 2021 (UTC) August 2021 I would like to nominate Blowback for the collaboration in August. I checked and I was able to find enough sources that it will pass AfC. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC) September 2021 I nominate QCODE for next month. TipsyElephant (talk) 11:29, 11 August 2021 (UTC) Considering there has aready been a draft for Draft:QCODE and it did not pass AfC I'm changing my nomination for next month to Draft:The United States of Anxiety. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC) October 2021 I'm recommending a horror podcast for the month of October. Does anyone have any suggestions that they would like as the collaboration of the month? TipsyElephant (talk) 14:58, 20 September 2021 (UTC) I'm nominating Draft:Knifepoint Horror for the month of October. There are plenty of sources when doing a simple google news search. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:43, 29 September 2021 (UTC) It's a pretty important podcast for horror, so that sounds good to me. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:49, 29 September 2021 (UTC) November 2021 I'm nominating Draft:Red Man Laughing by Ryan McMahon for the month of November because it's Native American Indian Heritage Month and there really aren't many articles about indigenous podcasts on Wikipedia. The only other ones that I'm aware of are Toasted Sister and This Land. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:31, 29 October 2021 (UTC) December 2021 I'm nominating The RobCast for the month of December because Chistmas is a Christian holiday and it's one of the few Christian podcasts that probably pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines. TipsyElephant (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC) I also found sources for Draft:The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill and Draft:Preach (podcast) so if anyone wants to help with those feel free to pitch in. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2021 (UTC) After some pretty thurough searching I think the Robcast has borderline notability, which suprised me. However, I stumbled upon this Vanity Fair article with 6 Christmas poscasts that look promising if anyone is interested in starting a draft. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:42, 16 December 2021 (UTC) January 2022 I'm nominating the remaining WNYC Studios podcasts that do not have articles for the month of January. In particular, I'll be working on Draft:Free Shakespeare on the Radio, Draft:Only Human (podcast), Draft:Adulting (podcast), Draft:American Fiasco, Draft:The Realness (podcast), and Draft:Come Through with Rebecca Carroll. If anyone wants to pitch in then feel free. I would also appreciate anyone starting drafts for the last couple I missed. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC) February 2022 I'm nominated Draft:Archive 81 (podcast) for the collaboration of the month in February. There is already a page for the TV show adaption Archive 81. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC) Spiceislandseabird and Richard Nevell, you were both somewhat interested in Knifepoint Horror. Feel free to contribute to Archive 81 if you have time and are interested in another horror podcast. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:12, 20 January 2022 (UTC) @TipsyElephant: I'd be happy to chip in – I just finished the Netflix series and was planning on re-listening to the podcast – but I can't promise I'll be particularly swift as late January and early February are pretty busy. Richard Nevell (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2022 (UTC) March 2022 I'm nominating Draft:Nicholas Quah for the month of March because we don't have many Wikipedia pages dedicated to the journalists who cover podcasting topics. TipsyElephant (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2022 (UTC) April 2022 Does anyone have a nomination for the month of April? Draft:Boomtown (podcast) and Draft:Floodlines would be my suggestion if no one else makes a nomination. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:04, 29 March 2022 (UTC) May 2022 Anyone have a nomination for the month of May? I'm thinking maybe Draft:The Unexplainable Disappearance of Mars Patel? TipsyElephant (talk) 14:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC) June 2022 Unless someone else has a nomination, I'm nominating Draft:Unlocking Us for the month of June. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC) July 2022 I'm open to other nominations, but I'm nominating Draft:Story Pirates (podcast) as the COTM for the month of July. There is a section dedicated to the podcast on the Wikipedia page for the organization here, but I think there is plenty of content to spin it out into a separate page. TipsyElephant (talk) 15:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC) After searching for some sources I've discovered that the Story Pirates Podcast is not quite as notable as I realized. It's won a few awards, but there really isn't a ton of coverage specifically about the podcast. So I'm proposing that the COTM should be focused on the Story_Pirates organization as a whole and the entry at Gimlet_Media#Story_Pirates / Story Pirates (podcast). TipsyElephant (talk) 14:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC) August 2022 I'm nominating the Magnus Archives for the month of August unless someone has a different page they'd like to collaborate on. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC) September 2022 I'm nominating OPB and all the podcasts produced by the radio station for the month of September, however, I'm open to other recommendations as well. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:56, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Latest

I'm nominating Within the Wires for the month of October. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:45, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I think I've decided that I'm going to do Darkest Night (podcast) for the COTM instead of Within the Wires. Maybe we'll do that next month. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

I think we'll skip the month of December. Does anyone else have a page they'd like to collaborate on for the month of January? TipsyElephant (talk) 02:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Creating new categories

@Mukilteoedits, Starsandwhales, Broccoli and Coffee, Leftist Commentary, Auric, Timdwilliamson, 2pou, EverythingisntCaaDath, FalconMillenium, Richard Nevell, Sdkb, and Tcr25: I'm pinging you all because you've shown some level of involvement with the project or this topic specifically. I think Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Podcasting/Archive_6 is particularly relevant to what I'm saying here if you want a point of reference.

I'm planning on creating a category under Category:Podcasting called something like Category:Podcasts by format or Category:Podcasts by style, which will contain categories related to how content is delivered in a podcast rather than the topic. For instance, an interview podcast can focus on sports, politics, or comic books so "interview" as a descriptor has to do with the "format" as opposed to the "genre." This of course will be in contrast to Category:Podcasts by genre which will only contain categories that are typically thought of as genres or only focus on one specific topic such as Category:Horror podcasts, Category:History podcasts, Category:Political podcasts, Category:Science podcasts, and Category:Technology podcasts. Currently, the categories I intend to move from Category:Podcasts by genre to Category:Podcasts by format include Category:Actual play podcasts, Category:Improvisational podcasts, and Category:Interview podcasts. Categories I intend on creating within Category:Podcasts by format include Category:Podcast miniseries, Category:Talk show podcasts, Category:Conversational podcasts (possibly synonymous with talk show?), Category:Narrated podcasts and possibly Category:Scripted podcasts or Category:Audio drama podcasts. I understand that both scripted and audio drama can be synonymous to Category:Fiction podcasts, but I think differentiating between the genres of fiction and the format of an audio play could be helpful. I also think having a separate category called Category:Podcasts by format will help avoid confusion and prevent the unnecessary deletion of categories like what happened with Category:Talk podcasts and Scripted podcasts.

Let me know what you're thoughts are and whether you support or oppose the idea or have suggestions. TipsyElephant (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

I broadly support the above because it makes sense to me and I see the value in having another type of categorisations, for the various reasons outlined above. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Seems to be well thought out and not overbroad.--Auric talk 16:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Any preferences between Category:Talk show podcasts and Category:Conversational podcasts or Category:Scripted podcasts and Category:Audio drama podcasts? Do you think Category:Documentary podcasts would be appropriate as well?

Unfortunately most of the sources I can find that discuss different formats for podcasting are blog posts. I'm trying to decide if I should create a category called "Narrated podcasts," "Narrative podcasts," or "Solo podcasts" TipsyElephant (talk) 20:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

It looks like perhaps "narrative podcasts" and "narrated podcasts" are ambiguous phrases that could mean a podcast hosted and narrated by a single person or an audio drama with a full cast that tells a story. It seems like "solo podcasts," "monologue podcasts," or "single host podcasts" are closer to what I was going for. For instance, PodCastle, Pseudopod (podcast), and Escape Pod (podcast) all have a single narrator who reads a piece of literature for the audience. There are sometimes different hosts that do the reading on different episodes, but never more than one on each episode. "Audio book podcast" wouldn't be too far off from what I'm talking about either. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:00, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

I'd prefer 'monologue podcast' over 'single host podcast' or 'solo podcast' for a couple of reasons. For example, Pseudopod has a single host per episode, but they sometimes have different hosts stepping in for episodes. 'Single host' as a navigational aid would be a little unclear for situations like that. I also think that solo podcast is a slippery term. It gives the impression that one person is doing everything, not just the talking but the editing, production, and research. And a show can start as a one-person operation but grow to involve more people as production becomes more complicated or the format changes. Richard Nevell (talk) 21:12, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

References

Agree with monologue podcast being the best descriptor. starsandwhales (talk) 04:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Okay, now the question remains whether Category:Conversational podcasts is synonymous with Category:Talk show podcasts. If I were to make a distinction between the two it would be that a talk show has a reoccurring host that guides a discussion with different guests, whereas a conversational podcast has reoccurring hosts and no or infrequent guests. Also, is it worth creating Category:Scripted podcasts or Category:Audio drama podcasts when we have Category:Fiction podcasts, and what should be the exact phrase? Are there better alternative wordings for conversational or audio drama podcasts? I also think there should be some discussion as to what is included within Category:Improvisational podcasts. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:38, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I think the both of conversational & talk show are synonymous. The difference between a scripted podcast and a audio drama/fiction podcast is that of format. The scripted/unscripted distinction is that of format. Audio drama/fiction podcast is the genre (though the term audio drama encompasses other media). starsandwhales (talk) 04:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

We still need to write a lead paragraph explaining what should be included in Category:Improvisational podcasts so there is no confusion in the future. Is the category for any podcast that doesn't strictly adhere to a script? Is it just for comedy improv, and if so shouldn't it just be merged with Category:Comedy and humor podcasts (are there scripted comedy podcasts)? Should Actual Play podcasts be a subcategory? TipsyElephant (talk) 16:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Binaural recordings

We should create a category for podcasts that use binaural recording. I'm not sure what the exact wording would be, but I'll look into whether there are similar categories that I could go off of. I'll come back to this at some point. Until then, I appreciate any input. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps from the listener perspective as opposed to the recorder? To make a Category:Stereo podcasts or Category:Podcasts in stereo? Or is that over-simplifying? 2pou (talk) 16:48, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

That makes sense I think. Doing a quick google search I found this blog post that gave a pretty simple explanation of the different types of audio. I also found Category:Binaural recordings. So I guess the question then becomes: Do we need a separate category for Binaural podcasts? Do we make it a subcategory of Binaural recordings or place it somewhere in the Podcasting category hierarchy. Probably both? TipsyElephant (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Musical theater podcasts

I think I might make a category for musical theater podcasts. For instance, podcasts like 36 Questions, In Strange Woods, and Draft:Anthem: Homunculus. I'll probably wait a little bit so I can create a couple more articles that would fall into the category. If anyone knows of others that do or don't have articles yet. TipsyElephant (talk) 16:58, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Off Book: The Improvised Musical may well be notable. Richard Nevell (talk) 19:07, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

I started a draft for it: Draft:Off Book: The Improvised Musical. It appears to be notable. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

I've created the category: Category:Musical theatre podcasts. I'm planning on adding Draft:Little Did I Know and Draft:Electric Easy once I publish them to mainspace. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:14, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Podcast series

I was recently working on these drafts: Draft:Inside Psycho, Draft:Inside the Exorcist, and Draft:Inside Jaws. I think they are all barely notable on their own, but occasionally sources will simply call them something like the "Inside" series (i.e. this THR source). However, most of the time the sources simply refer to them as separate podcasts and if you look them up on a podcast app they are in different feeds. I wasn't sure whether I should merge them into a single article or not, and if I did what should I call the article? Inside (podcast), Inside (podcast series), Inside series (podcast), or something else entirely?

I've also noticed some similar series out there. For instance, Dan Taberski did a series called Headlong, which included Missing Richard Simmons, Surviving Y2K, and Running From Cops. Most of the time these podcasts are referred to separately, but on occasion they are discussed as a series. There was also the WNYC Studios series The Realness (podcast) and Only Human (podcast) by Mary Harris that didn't really have a shared title, but are in the same feed on their website. The Template:Infobox podcast has a parameter for "preceded_by" but some reason doesn't have a parameter for "succeeded_by". Is this parameter for instances like this or something else? Should we add the "succeeded_by" parameter? TipsyElephant (talk) 11:41, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

I've moved all three to mainspace. I'm still unsure whether they should be merged or not. TipsyElephant (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

I think adding a "succeded_by" or "followed_by" is not a bad idea. It seems odd that it wasn't included with preceded_by... {{Infobox television}} code may help on how to go about it.

Regarding a merge or separate... Go with whatever you think the reader would be best served by. If having a single Inside (podcast series) article would contain the information better and there is a clear flow between them and a releationship, then that would be fine. If there is a lot to say about each, then separate articles is fine. This is a consideration when creating book articles as well. Sometimes the first book of a series might get more attention and reviews, but changing it to a {{Infobox book series}} captures information more comprehensively than jumping between articles for a mere paragraph of new info. The Wayward Pines Trilogy for example. Oddly enough, I had actually wondered about creating The Dragon Republic or changing The Poppy War to a trilogy page (mostly out of laziness), but good job flushing out the rest of the series! -2pou (talk) 00:25, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

That's kind of funny, I haven't even read the Poppy Wars yet, but my partner really liked the series so I figured I would write the articles for the remaining books. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

I added the followed by parameter to the infobox. I might be spending some time updating the documentation and proposing more changes in the future. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Podcast by Peele

I started a draft for Draft:Quiet Part Loud if anyone is interested. It debuts in a few days so I'm sure it'll get even more coverage at that time as well. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:09, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

How cool! Jordan Peele podcasts now. Hadn't heard of it, but worth checking out. -2pou (talk) 00:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant, thought you might be interested in this site: https://greatpods.co/podcast/quiet-part-loud (for this specific podcast initially).

I actually came across it totally separately, but it seems like a nice resource to use. It's kind of like a review aggregator a la Rotten Tomatoes or Book Marks consolidating reviews into one place. It looks like it's still relatively new, and using each review should be evaluated independently, but it definitely seems like a useful resource to look for some reviews a bit quicker. It's not clear how reviews are posted for each show or how each number value is assigned, so an independent search would probably still be necessary, but like I said, this could speed things up. -2pou (talk) 22:19, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@2pou: I've come across GreatPods occasionally and it can definitely be helpful. I've found similar sites when writing articles for books and sometimes I find sources through sites like these that I wouldn't have found otherwise. For instance, sometimes they have dead links to reviews that can be recovered on the Wayback Machine that wouldn't have ever been found with a simple google search. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:50, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

For those interested, Keegan-Michael Key also has a podcast: Draft:The History of Sketch Comedy. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:53, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Past participants

I compiled a list of users that were on the WikiProject's participants list at some point or another at my sandbox. Some of them had been removed over time due to things like inactivity. I'm planning on creating a subpage of the WikiProject for this list, but I wanted to check if anyone on the current list is still active before doing so. I'm going to ping everyone on the list and if I don't get any responses within the next couple of months I'm going to add your username to the list I've compiled and create the subpage. If you are still active on Wikipedia and would like to stay on the member list please reply to this message. Many of you haven't been active for years so I may have already included your name on the list. @Breno, JC.Torpey, Roberticus, Thomas Craven, Acrolith, Mhollomon, Afryer, Immortal Horrors or Everlasting Splendors, AGMours, Alicepotter, PR6029.R8 A6, FinaleFile, Drewmutt, Auric, Leftist Commentary, Broccoli and Coffee, Starsandwhales, Mukilteoedits, 2pou, EverythingisntCaaDath, Timdwilliamson, FalconMillenium, and Majokthefirst: TipsyElephant (talk) 20:17, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I've decided to just create a comprehensive list and disregard whether members are active or not. You can see the list here. I'll probably add to the page in the future to improve it's layout and make it easier for new users to add themselves. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:01, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I haven't been an active editor this past year, so you may take me off this list. I'll add myself back to the list if that ends up changing. starsandwhales (talk) 19:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, but please do not remove me – Broccoli & Coffee ^{(Oh hai)} 23:19, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@Starsandwhales and Broccoli and Coffee: I've decided to do a single comprehensive list located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting/Members instead of having one list for inactive members and another for active members. Having two lists would be too much upkeep and I don't see any other wikiprojects doing it. I've also recently added a tab header to the project so you can see the list by simply selecting the members tab. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Not constantly active but still around. Afryer (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Reformatting the WikiProject

I've been looking over some other WikiProjects such as WP:BOOKS, WP:NOVELS, WP:TELEVISION, WP:MOVIES, and WP:WPMUSIC. A lot of WikiProjects use some type of tab system located at a subpage that is transcluded at the top of the main page. For instance, WP:WikiProject Books/Tab header, WP:WikiProject Novels/mainpage, WP:WikiProject Television/Tabs, WP:WikiProject Film/Tab header, and WP:WikiProject Music/Tab header. I'm going to try and create one for this WikiProject, but I was curious what other editors thought. Is there a prefered name for the subpage? A prefered color? Are there specific tabs that would be the most helpful? TipsyElephant (talk) 20:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

If you think you can. Rounded tabs would be nice. --Auric talk 21:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@Auric: I've started here based on the novels wikiproject. What do you think so far with how rounded the tabs are right now? TipsyElephant (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Looks good.--Auric talk 22:23, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

RfC on podcast episode lists

Should stand-alone lists of podcast episodes be included on Wikipedia? TipsyElephant (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment There have been a couple of recent AfDs, here and here, that have called into question whether or not lists of podcast episodes are appropriate for inclusion on Wikipedia, which is what prompted this RfC. I participated in both AfDs and my opinion is that episode lists should be evaulated on a case-by-case basis. If there are reliable sources discussing the episodes as a group and/or multiple episodes are independently notable than I think the episode list passes WP:NLIST. If there are not reliable sources discussing the episodes as a group and none of the episodes are independently notable than I think the episode list does not pass WP:NLIST. The two deletion discussions also included discussion as to whether or not episode lists violate one or more examples of WP:NOT. TipsyElephant (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment It has been a week since I opened this RfC and there has been no participation so I'm pinging everyone who participated in the two deletion discussions that I mentioned above. @HelpingWorld, QuietHere, BusterD, Soetermans, Galanthis, Natrilix, Doktorbuk, Metropolitan90, Oaktree b, and MrStoofer: TipsyElephant (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

  The way I see it, it's just as you said above. We have WP:NLIST and we should keep relying on that standard as we've been doing. I don't see anything in either AfD that would convince me otherwise. QuietHere (talk) 21:48, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

  Barring any super terrific, award-winning, game-changing podcasts, NLIST is fine. I'd argue that most of them aren't even notable enough to warrant an article, but that's for another discussion. No point having different rules different lists. Oaktree b (talk) 00:11, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

There is plenty of Venn diagram overlap here with WP:PLOT (which is hardly enforced) that I'm concerned about talking a lot and deciding little. Let me offer two of the podcasts I listen to all the time to test the policy of detailing every episode on Wikipedia.

What brings us here is Off Menu, a comedy podcast in which two presenters ask guests for their dream meal. They ask for examples in different categories (starter, main course, dessert etc). I think 90% of the guests, if not greater, were blue-linked, so no question that the guests were notable. The two presenters were notable.

The fundamental problem is the episode detail. The food items are not notable; it was just the selection of the guest. It filled the page with scores of restaurant dishes and in-jokes. It was interesting - though trivial - to know the guest every week But one episode did not follow into the next, nor was there an over reaching narrative. I'd say therefore that listing every detail, about each meal, from every guest, was trivial overkill. Creating an article for every single starter, main, dessert, drink etc would be to replicate trivia and chit-chat onto Wikipedia; I can't see how that magnification of the mundane could be considered important.

My second favourite is The Football Ramble, a comedy football podcast. There is no argument in favour of an episode guide to be included on Wikipedia. Why not? Is it a lack of narrative? Greater sense that episodes are not automatically notable? Something is clearly different: format, content, number of episodes?

I'd say the focus should be on podcasts designed to be episodic. "The Trojan Horse Affair" or Slow Burn would be perfect for episode guide articles. That's the whole point. A comedy show about favourite side dishes? No. doktorb _words^deeds 23:22, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Other than sorting by dates, August 4th: New Sushi, August 5th: My Wasabi, seems to be a reasonable way to group them. Date:title. There's no fixed format/type when doing a podcast, most are free-form. Oaktree b (talk) 00:13, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

And that's the issue. Podcasts are freeform, can be "self produced". They're not truly notable because of this. doktorb _words^deeds 06:19, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Not all podcasts are freeform or self-produced. There are long scripted fiction podcasts like We're Alive, A Story of Survival and non-fiction podcasts with an over-arching narrative such as Serial. There are also quite a few podcasting companies that create shows. The question shouldn't be whether the podcasts are notable because they are freeform or self-produced (that's not what the RfC is addressing), but it seems like maybe the two of you are suggesting that episode lists make more sense for shows that have a clear plot or over-arching story? TipsyElephant (talk) 17:03, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

@Doktorbuk and Oaktree b: were the two of you suggesting that episode tables make more sense for podcasts with a clear plot? TipsyElephant (talk) 03:22, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

I was yes. Oaktree b (talk) 03:35, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

In essence, yes. If the series is just presenters chatting or summarising sports coverage or what have you, it's not a notable series, it's just a chat show. For me episode guides can only work if there is a through line or narrative. doktorb _words^deeds 05:24, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment it's been over two weeks since this RfC was opened and there has only been three participants aside from myself. I'm pinging some users who have recently contributed to this WikiProject in hopes that it generates more discussion. @FalconMillenium, Timdwilliamson, 2pou, OaklandRaider, ScottHastie, Mukilteoedits, Starsandwhales, Broccoli and Coffee, Leftist Commentary, Auric, Richard Nevell, and Tcr25: TipsyElephant (talk) 19:11, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Comment I'm personally not a big fan of podcast episode lists. I think we can evaluate them on a case-by-case basis, but I would favor a general rule that articles of podcast episode lists are unnecessary and think that most podcasts aren't notable enough to have a separate article on episodes. In most cases, I think episode lists can be included on the page if they are deemed necessary and only if the number of episodes becomes too great should a separate page be created. Mukedits (talk) 19:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

QCode podcasts

If anyone is interested in collaborating on some new drafts I started some for a few of the QCode podcasts. Feel free to contribute to Draft:The Edge of Sleep, Draft:Soft Voice, Draft:Carrier (podcast), Draft:Electric Easy, and it looks like someone else started a draft for Draft:Last Known Position. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:48, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

I also started one for Draft:Hank the Cowdog (podcast). TipsyElephant (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Adding adaptations to the infobox

I was working on Homecoming (podcast) and realized that there is a page for Homecoming (TV series), which made me wonder why there isn't a parameter for adaptations in the podcast infobox. There's a whole List of podcast adaptations that could use the parameter and there are probably more. Does anyone object to adding the parameter? Any preferred words, spellings, or phrases other than just "Adaptations"? TipsyElephant (talk) 01:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I like the idea of a parameter for podcast adaptations or related works or something similar. Mukedits (talk) 19:54, 30 December 2022 (UTC)