Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Africa (Toto song)

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The result of the debate was KEEP. NSR (talk) 10:28, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Africa (Toto song)

I finished this nom that was never listed here. No vote from me. --Dmcdevit 09:48, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

delete/merge to Toto (band) - I think this small of an article is not necissary. in the main Toto article, there could be a mention of its appearance in GTA:VC, but this small of an article is not necessary. At least not for now. mysekurity 03:16, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Merge and redirect. Some content, but rather nano-, as the nominator suggests. Alai 05:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Cleanup You're all joking, right? GTA?! This song got so much air-play when I was growing up that I got sick of it. I think that this song might actually be responsible for my first knowledge that there were "plains" in Africa.
- Rock on the Net's #90 in the list of top 100 80s songs
- #11 in a poll of top 80s music

What is the criteria for a song if "Africa" can't make it? -Harmil 10:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand. #1 song on Billboard charts in 1993 see [1] . Capitalistroadster 10:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not really much of an article, forgettable 80s song. JamesBurns 10:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Forgettable? The darn song still gets stuck in my head to this day Youngamerican 13:55, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and cleaup Gorrister 14:01, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redir. I like the song, but two sentences? Keep it in Toto (band) until/unless it's ready to stand on its own. Niteowlneils 14:57, 11 July 2005 (UTC) or as BD2412 said, the album.[reply]

That said, at some point we need to decide if WP's main goal is to be a timeless, universal encyclopedia, or just a db of today's pop[mostly Western]-culture (I wouldn't be surprised if we have more articles on fictional alien races from the StarWars extended universe than real human races/languages on Earth). If it's the former, I'd like to volunteer as the first paid full-time WP editor. If it's the latter, I may find something else to do with those 60-70 hours per week. Niteowlneils 17:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be assuming that real things and fictional ones are fighting over limited resources, which is not true in an unlimited electronic encyclopedia. WP should aim to be an encyclopedia of all culture, and western/pop culture should be kept not just on its own merits but precisely because it preserves wikipedia's potential coverage of non-western/non-popular cultures. The kids in Africa should be able to use wp to tell each other and the world about whatever songs they are listening to. Kappa 20:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And how many dollars have you donated to Wikipedia to build new DB servers? And how many non-Western pop-cultural articles have you contributed to or voted to keep? Theoretical/idealistic and real-world limits are very different. And a merge/redir to the band or album article would allow the "...kids in Africa should be able to use wp to tell each other and the world about whatever songs they are listening to..." to do just that. Niteowlneils 20:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, notable and hard to forget. Kappa 14:58, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a notable song but only if expanded. Otherwise merge with the band article until someone gets around to writing a full article. 23skidoo 15:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, or merge with an article on the album from whence it came. Notable song. -- BD2412 ^talk 15:20, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
Keep. A notable song, emblematic of the 80's. Christopher Parham (talk) 21:43, 2005 July 11 (UTC)
Merge unless the album or band page is too busy for it, then keep would be acceptable. And damn you all for giving me an ear worm. SchmuckyTheCat 23:21, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Mike H (Talking is hot) 00:14, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Keep and cleanup per capitalistroadster (Sorry, forgot to sign my vote Chuck 18:34, July 14, 2005 (UTC))
A notable song, but nothing here. Redirect, unless expanded into a semi decent article, in which case keep. -R. fiend 03:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and, I hope, expand. An important 80s song and worthy of an expanded article. Moncrief 06:24, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Redirect unless expanded. -Sean Curtin 06:27, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
The song is older than I am, but I love it. Keep and expand. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 06:43, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I left my brains down in Africa. Erm, I mean, keep, notable song. — JIP | Talk 07:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A notable song of the 80's. --YUL89YYZ 20:48, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
Keep. I know a depressing large number of people who enter into ecstatic trances when this song plays. Xoloz 03:07, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable song, per Capitalroadster. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:52, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. Great song, but is there really much more to be said about it? (cf. Billie Jean, another 1983 hit) Unless the article can be expanded to something more subtantial, it doesn't really seem to warrant its own entry. ----

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